looking for a decent gaming laptop under 1500

#1 Posted by kille142 (60 posts) -

and are alienware laptop worth it?

#2 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

Lenovo Y510P with Dual 755m

#3 Posted by 04dcarraher (20725 posts) -

Alienware's are not worth it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834231630

For an Alienware with same gpu , with 4gb more system memory and slightly faster cpu you will pay 2.5k

#4 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

@PredatorRules: look god damn good based on the price, on youtube lol, and isnt ugly as fuck like some ive seen

#5 Edited by 04dcarraher (20725 posts) -

One of my buddies went with a Lenovo Y510P 755m SLI and loves it. However, should point out that the 860m is based on Maxwell architecture and is nearly 2x faster then a single 755m. While SLI would allow the 755m SLI to perform on par or slightly better then a single 860m two 755m SLI TDP is 100w while a 860m is like 50w.

In general its better to grab a stronger single gpu over multiple slower ones. Your performance is dependent on the game and driver and you never get 1:1 scaling.

#6 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

yeah i was thinking that about bc not every game support sli xd

i like the style of the y510 more but u kinda made me uncertain xD

i dont have a dvd driver if i go sli? tbh idc im just wondering lol,

#7 Posted by 04dcarraher (20725 posts) -

to get updated drivers just get them online, laptop is preloaded with what you need to begin with.

#8 Posted by Ribstaylor1 (1692 posts) -

Don't listen to predator rules you can get far better laptops for under 1,500 then a duel 755m lenovo ideapad.

#9 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

...if you're talking about battery life and shit i really don't mind since it will always be plugged in..

find me one :/?

870M 880M laptop cost 2 much dual 755m look better then a 760m

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313739

#10 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

two 755m SLI TDP is 100w while a 860m is like 50w.

Are you sure that this is on heavy load on both of em? sounds unnatural for the 860 to be as fast as dual 755 while keeping twice as much lower Watts usage

EDIT: I just checked on notebookcheck.net and GPU boss that the TDP of the 860 is about 60-75, while the dual 755m takes about 70-80, but unless he don't mind the power cable to be plugged in during gameplay I say the dual 755 is about 10% faster so that's good enough reason to buy it since you can't upgrade GPU later on

#11 Posted by Ribstaylor1 (1692 posts) -

Then your best bet would be to go for a laptop with an 860m in it. It equals the performance of those duel 755m's and it matches a 770m in most games with far less power draw and heat being pumped into your lap. link. That link shows how it compares to the others. It will give you far less headaches then duel cards, you'll have a dvd drive and a cooler running gpu. I don't have time to go looking for deals but I'm sure since your in the market for one you can take the time to go looking around the major online retailers for a good deal/price or research different kinds of laptops. If your going to be spending that much you should be taking more then a few days of searching, but try to see if Amazon prime is still free you might be able to get a sick deal from them.

#12 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313739 find me this deal for canadian and ill clearly buy this xD


prettymuch wichever i find cheaper

#13 Posted by Ribstaylor1 (1692 posts) -

Then your best bet would be to go for a laptop with an 860m in it. It equals the performance of those duel 755m's and it matches a 770m in most games with far less power draw and heat being pumped into your lap. link. That link shows how it compares to the others. It will give you far less headaches then duel cards, you'll have a dvd drive and a cooler running gpu. I don't have time to go looking for deals but I'm sure since your in the market for one you can take the time to go looking around the major online retailers for a good deal/price. If your going to be spending that much you should be taking more then a few days of searching, but try to see if Amazon prime is still free you might be able to get a sick deal from them.

#14 Edited by Gaming-Planet (14680 posts) -

@kille142 said:

yeah i was thinking that about bc not every game support sli xd

i like the style of the y510 more but u kinda made me uncertain xD

i dont have a dvd driver if i go sli? tbh idc im just wondering lol,

The dvd drive occupies the ultrabay and SLI takes that place.

Just get a portable optical drive because these days optical drives don't really have a purpose with digital media and flash drives have pretty much replaced them.

I can say the y510p is a great choice. My brother the GT 750m model and he loves it. There are some downsides, like the trackpad not being the best and some models have bad wifi cards. As for gaming goes, it's great and the price is better than most gaming laptops I've seen.

#15 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -
@kille142 said:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313739 find me this deal for canadian and ill clearly buy this xD

prettymuch wichever i find cheaper

Well prices in Canada are higher but not like in my country which are double that.

I found 2 good laptops one with i5 and the other with i7 - the difference is quite nice but it's up to you 100$.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1198&item_id=067540 i5

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1198&item_id=067539 i7

Both are with single 755m, I think for a dual 755m or single 860 you'll pay about 1500$.

That's all depends on your budget limit.

EDIT: I found you something far more BEASTY than the 860 or the dual 755 at your price range:

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1198&item_id=068874 and the difference between it and the i5 isn't much but the GPU performance is twice as strong

#16 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8463135&CatId=4935

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982

both has 750m sli

not sure if these is a big diff between the 755 and 750

for the budget i just to consider 15% tax for a max of 1500...max wont go 1cent highter xd

HD 8970 doesnt look that much stronger

currently considering this

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982

still got a week to find the best deal so its all good xD

#17 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8463135&CatId=4935

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982

both has 750m sli

not sure if these is a big diff between the 755 and 750

for the budget i just to consider 15% tax for a max of 1500...max wont go 1cent highter xd

HD 8970 doesnt look that much stronger

currently considering this

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982

still got a week to find the best deal so its all good xD

Doesn't look much stronger?

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-8970M-vs-GeForce-GTX-860M

#18 Posted by kille142 (60 posts) -

http://www.notebookcheck.biz/AMD-Radeon-HD-8970M.94341.0.html


http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M-SLI.91280.0.html


?

#19 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

http://www.notebookcheck.biz/AMD-Radeon-HD-8970M.94341.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-750M-SLI.91280.0.html

?

Dude, the 8970 is almost identical in performance to 870

#20 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

look like a 5fps increase xd

site might be wrong so w/e lol

well we'll c in a week when i,ll have the money looked at the msi one and it lookgood except for his cpu but it shouldnt be a prob for most game

#21 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

look like a 5fps increase xd

site might be wrong so w/e lol

well that's something, again you can't change GPU so...

I can recommend you getting on that same site the MSI with the 870 and the i7 it also comes with extra RAM so in the future you won't have to worry about bad ports etc.

#22 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@kille142 said:

look like a 5fps increase xd

site might be wrong so w/e lol

well that's something, again you can't change GPU so...

I can recommend you getting on that same site the MSI with the 870 and the i7 it also comes with extra RAM so in the future you won't have to worry about bad ports etc.

link?

#23 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

@PredatorRules said:

@kille142 said:

look like a 5fps increase xd

site might be wrong so w/e lol

well that's something, again you can't change GPU so...

I can recommend you getting on that same site the MSI with the 870 and the i7 it also comes with extra RAM so in the future you won't have to worry about bad ports etc.

link?

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1199&item_id=060832

It's got i7, 12Gb of RAM for future proof already, 770M and a 17' monitor

#24 Posted by kille142 (60 posts) -

hmm kinda over my budget xd

might look at these 2

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152442 around 1440 with tax

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982 around 1150 with tax

guess it depend how much i want to pay

i dont order from site ive never heard before xD

#25 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

hmm kinda over my budget xd

might look at these 2

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152442 around 1440 with tax

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8895438&CatId=3982 around 1150 with tax

guess it depend how much i want to pay

i dont order from site ive never heard before xD

How about this one: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_577_1199&item_id=069032

It's the same laptop only with 860m and using notebookcheck as a source the difference between the 770 and the 860 is 1% difference in actual gaming performance, I guess their architecture is phenomenal

EDIT: the tigerdirect doesn't allow me access it says:

Access Denied

You don't have permission to access "http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?" on this server.

Reference #18.854519d4.1397919702.654a19c

#26 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

might aswell go 750m sli if i go 760m xd nd its still over my budget

yeah idk why it does happen to me 2 for some site..but havnt had that prob since like a month xD

#27 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

might aswell go 750m sli if i go 760m xd nd its still over my budget

You asked for a gaming laptop under 1500$, I gave you excellent gaming laptop for 1400$ with the best your money can buy.

The 8970m is excellent choice as well

#28 Posted by kille142 (60 posts) -

yes thank you now i only need to know if i really want to spedn 1.5k xD i could buy other thing with this 500...

#29 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

yes thank you now i only need to know if i really want to spedn 1.5k xD i could buy other thing with this 500...

Well you can build a modern gaming PC with 500$ these days so...

#30 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

hm didnt think about this but it might be a good idea, already got a gaming setup xD but my mother might need one to browse internet

#31 Posted by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

hm didnt think about this but it might be a good idea

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3uwrq wow prices are a bit stiff on Canada, normally I don't get over 500$ on US

#32 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

lol and u still need to add the taxe xD but tbh that could still work i have more then 1.5k it was just a set maximum

really nice build

gotta pay dat 10$ for unlimited internet :c with 3 pc might aswell ugrade my internet D: 175mb/s lol

#33 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

lol and u still need to had the taxe xD but tbh that could still work i have more then 1.5k it was just a set maximum

really nice build

Yeah it's a decent budget gaming PC, for your mom, a multimedia PC I'd recommend something like this: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/3uwZT you can upgrade CPU to A6, A8 or even A10 but that's not neccesary, you can add SSD of 60Gb to boost up OS login and improve browsing, programs etc.

#34 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

yeah that look really good for what she would use it for

thx

do we really need an hdd she could only use an ssd and it would be fast she doesnt even know how to download lol

and i got some extra hdd laying around

kinda need a monitor and a (desk chair ima take care of that xd) mb keyboard mouse

#35 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

yeah that look really good for what she would use it for

thx

do we really need an hdd she could only use an ssd and it would be fast she doesnt even know how to download lol

and i got some extra hdd laying around

kinda need a monitor and a (desk chair ima take care of that xd) mb keyboard mouse

Yes you can install SSD only, but take attention, she won't be able to download tons of big files, if it's browsing only sure install 60Gb SSD with Windows and try to not update OS too much, I don't know how much Windows updates take but I use 8.1 stock without any updates and it takes about 35Gb. (works like charm)

EDIT: As for monitor, I can recommend you on Asus, Dell, LG and Samsung as brands.

keyboard and mouse I recommend on Logitech Wireless set MK220.

#36 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

ok thx ordering all this in 1 week xD gotta go to a store near me for all these stuff

desktop build is solid imo for the price


thx again

#37 Edited by PredatorRules (9012 posts) -

@kille142 said:

ok thx ordering all this in 1 week xD gotta go to a store near me for all these stuff

desktop build is solid imo for the price

thx again

Sure, glad to help =)

#38 Edited by 04dcarraher (20725 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

@04dcarraher said:

two 755m SLI TDP is 100w while a 860m is like 50w.

Are you sure that this is on heavy load on both of em? sounds unnatural for the 860 to be as fast as dual 755 while keeping twice as much lower Watts usage

EDIT: I just checked on notebookcheck.net and GPU boss that the TDP of the 860 is about 60-75, while the dual 755m takes about 70-80, but unless he don't mind the power cable to be plugged in during gameplay I say the dual 755 is about 10% faster so that's good enough reason to buy it since you can't upgrade GPU later on

The 860m power usage depending on the model the 2gb TDP is 50w while the 4gb version is 75w. 755m has a tdp of 50w so x2 = 100tdp max for the 755m SLI. the 755m SLI is a good setup but if you cab grab a single gpu that's nearly as fast and you dont have to worry about having SLI working fully to get the performance you want.

#39 Edited by kille142 (60 posts) -

well that look fast as fuck http://www.bell.ca/Bell_Internet/Products/Fibe_Internet_175_175/Specifications.tab#Area6

and yeah but im not sure i want to spend 1500 on a laptop i think 1000 could be enough to run game on hight whitout

these fancy setting fxxa or w/e its called


i do agree it would be less trouble having one gpu

#41 Edited by Ribstaylor1 (1692 posts) -

Ya at the $1000 dollar price range the best your going to find is a 860m computer. It runs cooler, doesn't use as much power and holds up to 755m sli and 770m systems no problem.