internet security vista 2012

Hi im running vista, ive got avg free i read it was good. If I get spybot search and destroy is that all i should get?

Yep. AVG and Spybot work great together, and you don't really need to add anything else. :-)

Avast.

AVG sucks.

avast, or panda are the best free AV out there. i dont reccomend avg because ive used it and it does not find crap. use the AV program of your choice with Spybot and Spyware blaster. ive been using them along with other programs and i have never gotten a virus and my comp always run fast.

Avast, AVG, Avira, MS security essentials are all good but I recommend MS:SE, you don't even know it's there.

Also scan once a week with malwarebytes.

Just a heads up I'am tech and I don't use any anti viurs programs. Just a waste of time if you ask me. For the average user the only program I could recommend would be kaspersky, when it comes to free I'd highly recommend a clean os install plus chrome with ad block, also don't install any other version of java then what comes with chrome. If you think you might be infected with a virus I'd run hitmanpro it'd tell u in under 5min.

I've been using AVG for the better part of 7 years. I've had great luck with it.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Just a heads up I'am tech and I don't use any anti viurs programs. Just a waste of time if you ask me. For the average user the only program I could recommend would be kaspersky, when it comes to free I'd highly recommend a clean os install plus chrome with ad block, also don't install any other version of java then what comes with chrome. If you think you might be infected with a virus I'd run hitmanpro it'd tell u in under 5min.

jakes456

possibly the worst advice ever. Ignore this troll.

[QUOTE="MW2ismygame"][QUOTE="jakes456"]

possibly the worst advice ever. Ignore this troll.

zaku101

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="MW2ismygame"] probably the first time i agree with a single thing you post. TC, you should always have AV. darksusperia

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

So what's your point? I don't get it...

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

zaku101

So what's your point? I don't get it...

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="MW2ismygame"] probably the first time i agree with a single thing you post. TC, you should always have AV. jakes456

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world going to fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

nice making threats on gamespot.

15 year old punk. :lol:

I am 24, I work for a company repairing electronics, managing servers, reparining computers,servers,macs,phones, ipads, consoles, soldiering. I even manage 2 stores and I work unsupervised, do house and business calls while also dealing with 100+ staff members in downtown chicago managing the Harlem Irving Plaza twice a week. My list can go on and on but I am sure you don't care.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] lolz.. ehrm, virtual machine.darksusperia

So what's your point? I don't get it...

Yeah that's the easy way out but can you actually fix it without restoring to a snapshot and it's not like people store snapshots on a daily basis. vm still get infected and are used as the sandbox for removing viruses by hand. If you have to use a snapshot you've already failed.

you're still basically reinstalling the os because your forcing it to reload from a fresh older install while losing data if the snapshot wasn't current.

Yes I can admit I don't remove ever virus by hand, I was basically saying I can do most by hand and 80% of the time I do use software, but if needed I can removing it by hand.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

So what's your point? I don't get it...

zaku101

Yeah that's the easy way out but can you actually fix it without restoring to a snapshot and it's not like people store snapshots on a daily basis. vm still get infected and are used as the sandbox for removing viruses by hand. If you have to use a snapshot you've already failed.

you're still basically reinstalling the os because your forcing it to reload while losing data if the snapshot wasn't current.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] you said: I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it Which is completely irrelevant if servers are running in a VM as you can just restore the last snapshot making your whole arguement null and void. I also call BS on you removing everything by hand.darksusperia

Yeah that's the easy way out but can you actually fix it without restoring to a snapshot and it's not like people store snapshots on a daily basis. vm still get infected and are used as the sandbox for removing viruses by hand. If you have to use a snapshot you've already failed.

you're still basically reinstalling the os because your forcing it to reload while losing data if the snapshot wasn't current.

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Yeah that's the easy way out but can you actually fix it without restoring to a snapshot and it's not like people store snapshots on a daily basis. vm still get infected and are used as the sandbox for removing viruses by hand. If you have to use a snapshot you've already failed.

you're still basically reinstalling the os because your forcing it to reload while losing data if the snapshot wasn't current.

zaku101

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

It's called not banging your head against a wall when there is a quicker, more efficient way of getting to the end goal. That's success.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Yeah that's the easy way out but can you actually fix it without restoring to a snapshot and it's not like people store snapshots on a daily basis. vm still get infected and are used as the sandbox for removing viruses by hand. If you have to use a snapshot you've already failed.

you're still basically reinstalling the os because your forcing it to reload while losing data if the snapshot wasn't current.

zaku101

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] its not failing, its called minimizing down time, (especially if you get the claimed virus that destroys your boot sector) and you only need to grab the data that has changed since the last backup, which more often then not, isnt all that much. Time is money. Unless you like job security and making more work for yourself, your claims are irrelevent. In all my years, there have only ever been a handful of viri that have needed manual removal, at which point, it isn't difficult. In fact I had one just the other week, no big deal, took 5 mins. Mountain - molehill.darksusperia

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

He sounds like one of the foremen at my company. He insists on doing things the hard way 9 times out of 10. He's been in the business for 13 years, so he knows quite a bit more than me about most things on the job. However, even guys with more experience than him will pick on his inflexibility and outright stupidity at times. It's like he has to beat his head against a wall and make others do it to, no matter how simply the problem could potentially be solved. Everything has to be done a certain way, even when someone shows him a quicker, more efficient way. So stupid.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

hartsickdiscipl

He sounds like one of the foremen at my company. He insists on doing things the hard way 9 times out of 10. He's been in the business for 13 years, so he knows quite a bit more than me about most things on the job. However, even guys with more experience than him will pick on his inflexibility and outright stupidity at times. It's like he has to beat his head against a wall and make others do it to, no matter how simply the problem could potentially be solved. Everything has to be done a certain way, even when someone shows him a quicker, more efficient way. So stupid.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] its not failing, its called minimizing down time, (especially if you get the claimed virus that destroys your boot sector) and you only need to grab the data that has changed since the last backup, which more often then not, isnt all that much. Time is money. Unless you like job security and making more work for yourself, your claims are irrelevent. In all my years, there have only ever been a handful of viri that have needed manual removal, at which point, it isn't difficult. In fact I had one just the other week, no big deal, took 5 mins. Mountain - molehill.hartsickdiscipl

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

It's called not banging your head against a wall when there is a quicker, more efficient way of getting to the end goal. That's success.

I know it's the more effective way of solving the problem. I am simply stating my orginal point, about virus removal in a WM env, where he's still being forced to basically do a restore of some kind in order to solve the problem meaning yes the OS can't boot in, you can't fix it due to the virus so your giving up and loading a past save. It's still showing my point as true, meaing your still basically resintalling/reimaging rather than fixing the actual problem. Some how it moved into us aruging about being able to remove it by doing a snapshot(costeffective) which isn't really removing it but rather reinstalling/imaging the os and failing to actually remove the virus which is what we were arguing about in the first place.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

It's still called failing to fix the problem in my book and giving up. It's no different then saying o **** somethings not working and I can't fix it to my knowledge, I am just going to restore the whole thing because I'am not able to solve the problem at hand and I'am going to pretend like I knew how to fix it rather than actually fixing it by using a snapshot which my mom could load. Meaning in reality I still lost to the virus.

zaku101

It's called not banging your head against a wall when there is a quicker, more efficient way of getting to the end goal. That's success.

I know it's the more effective way of solving the problem. I am simply stating my orginal point, about virus removal in a WM env, where he's still being forced to basically do a restore of some kind in order to solve the problem meaning yes the OS can't boot in, you can't fix it due to the virus so your giving up and loading a past save. It's still showing my point as true, meaing your still basically resintalling/reimaging rather than fixing the actual problem. Some how it moved into us aruging about being able to remove it by doing a snapshot(costeffective) which isn't really removing it but rather reinstalling/imaging the os and failing to actually remove the virus which is what we were arguing about in the first place.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

It's called not banging your head against a wall when there is a quicker, more efficient way of getting to the end goal. That's success.

darksusperia

I know it's the more effective way of solving the problem. I am simply stating my orginal point, about virus removal in a WM env, where he's still being forced to basically do a restore of some kind in order to solve the problem meaning yes the OS can't boot in, you can't fix it due to the virus so your giving up and loading a past save. It's still showing my point as true, meaing your still basically resintalling/reimaging rather than fixing the actual problem. Some how it moved into us aruging about being able to remove it by doing a snapshot(costeffective) which isn't really removing it but rather reinstalling/imaging the os and failing to actually remove the virus which is what we were arguing about in the first place.

You simply just changed the topic around. I did at no point state that using imaging was bad, the whole topic was started at "Can a virus prevent a vm from booting and can you fix it without reinstall/imaging." You basically started stating that VM can beat any virus or are virus free but its a whole different topic if you throw imaging into it.I am not sure how we got to the point of aruging about cost effectiveness or the fastest way of removing the problem. When the orginal topic was about actually fixing the problem without reverting to imaging. If you have to reimage your VM has already failed & your basically back where you started making your VM no different than a normal consumer computer. So my argument stands.

You simply just changed the topic around. I did at no point state that using imaging was bad, the whole topic was started at "Can a virus prevent a vm from booting and can you fix it without reinstall/imaging." You basically started stating that VM can beat any virus or are virus free but its a whole different topic if you throw imaging into it.I am not sure how we got to the point of aruging about cost effectiveness or the fastest way of removing the problem. When the orginal topic was about actually fixing the problem without reverting to imaging.

zaku101

I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world going to fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand.

zaku101

[QUOTE="zaku101"] probably the first time i agree with a single thing you post. TC, you should always have AV. darksusperia

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

lolz.. ehrm, virtual machine.

Basically said/hinted it there.

Also good luck having an image for everyones unquie computer backedup ready to go current just laying around ready to go. In a real world your method isn't going to work as easily as you think unless your in a server env.

Meaning your time will most likely be spent reloading computers from a clean install, getting drivers and software which could take hours depending on the number of computers.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

zaku101

lolz.. ehrm, virtual machine.

Basically said/hinted it there.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"]

Do you guys actually remove viruses for a living, no? Ok great I love your opinion. I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world could fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand. I know how they work and I do for a fact know that it doesn't matter what anti virus program you use it's not going to make a difference. you could get a virus run 5 different scanner and if you're lucky one of them might actually pick the virus up, better yet be able to remove it.

zaku101

lolz.. ehrm, virtual machine.

Basically said/hinted it there.

Also good luck having an image for everyones unquie computer backedup ready to go current just laying around ready to go. In a real world your method isn't going to work as easily as you think unless your in a server env.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

You simply just changed the topic around. I did at no point state that using imaging was bad, the whole topic was started at "Can a virus prevent a vm from booting and can you fix it without reinstall/imaging." You basically started stating that VM can beat any virus or are virus free but its a whole different topic if you throw imaging into it.I am not sure how we got to the point of aruging about cost effectiveness or the fastest way of removing the problem. When the orginal topic was about actually fixing the problem without reverting to imaging.

darksusperia

I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world going to fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand.

zaku101

I don't see how reimaging and removing a virus aren't two different topics...

One is used to reinstall an OS from an ealier point and one is keeping everything current without losing data or requiring to revert to an ealier time.

One leaves the OS intaked the other involves restoring it two completelty different things.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"]

lolz.. ehrm, virtual machine.darksusperia

Basically said/hinted it there.

Also good luck having an image for everyones unquie computer backedup ready to go current just laying around ready to go. In a real world your method isn't going to work as easily as you think unless your in a server env.

I am sorry to tell you this but 80-90% of the world doesn't live off of term/remote desktop servers, in the business world yes there's a high number but everyone has their own personal computer these days.

Also what if your image was actually bad, meaning one of your HDD was failing and you wern't aware of the issue or when your HDD started failing meaning you could risk loading an image that has corruptfiles being a year old making everything useless. You put too much faint in imaging.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="zaku101"] to recap: [QUOTE="zaku101"]

I could send you one right now so bad you'd never be able to boot into windows unless you reinstall the os. No anti virus program in the world going to fix it unless you do it by hand. I don't use programs to remove viruses I do it by hand.

zaku101

I don't see how reimaging and removing a virus aren't two different topics...

One is used to reinstall an OS from an ealier point and one is keeping everything current without losing data or requiring to revert to an ealier time.

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] I could spend the time doing it by hand and be as 1337 as you, or I could reload/dump the image (VM or NOT) and be done with it and move on to more pressing issues. If you think I cant remove a virus by hand your sorely mistaken, I do have, however, better things to do with my time :) At no point did I say VM's are virus free, nor any other installation. At no point, imaging or not, does it change the situation to make it an entirely different topic, Infected machine is infected, end of.darksusperia

I don't see how reimaging and removing a virus aren't two different topics...

One is used to reinstall an OS from an ealier point and one is keeping everything current without losing data or requiring to revert to an ealier time.

So your basically going to tell me byte for byte your datas going to be no different from when you got the virus from when you restored to an earlier image?

Unless it's a perfect clone byte for byte it's two completety different topics. Also you have to go throught the trouble of actually figuring out when you got inefect and which image to load.

Get Microsoft Security Essentials. It's excellent.

Don't use AVG, it sucks.

do you understand how incremental backups work?? you should familiarise yourself with it. Awesome stuff.darksusperia

I could spend the time doing it by hand and be as 1337 as you, or I could reload/dump the image (VM or NOT) and be done with it and move on to moredpressing issues. If you think I cant remove a virus by hand your sorely mistaken, I do have, however, better things to do with my timeAt no point did I say VM's are virus free, nor any other installation. At no point, imaging or not, does it change the situation to make it an entirely different topic, Infected machine is infected, end of.darksusperia

Yeah I know how backup works I just don't see how using a bloody backup to restore an OS from a virus is the same as actually not having to...

~You're changing the subject again when we were talking about how you stated reimaging is the same as removing a virus normally. When they're completely different processes.

Just give AV advice

Thanks for the replies

lol My comp crashed as I made this thread thought it hadn't been made.

I've got avg free, spybot with tea timer and comodo firewall. After reading some toms hardware articles and threads.

I have sysinternals autoruns and I read that can be used to stop malaware, I've not had a problem with trojans or virus's since I stopped using things like kazaar and limewire that was years ago.