Intel "i5" VS. AMD Phenom II X6

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#1 yayitsjon
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Just saw an add for the new AMD Phenom II X6. So is this supposed to be better than the i series or what? I've been out of the game for a while...

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#2 gmaster456
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The Quad Core i5 would still perform much better in games then the x6 but for stuff like HD video rendering, the x6 would have a slight upper hand especially at a higher clock speed
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the phenom x6 is a little worse for gaming than an equally priced i5 or i7, but the phenoms X6 does better for encoding or rendering.
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#4 C_Rule
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Pretty much what has been said above. For gaming, or anything that can only use up to 4 cores, the 750/60 is better than the AMD 6 core. But if you're doing something that will utilize more than 4 cores, the AMD 6 core will be better.
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The i5. If it came to the X4's however...
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The Quad Core i5 would still perform much better in games then the x6 but for stuff like HD video rendering, the x6 would have a slight upper hand especially at a higher clock speedgmaster456

The i5 would very likely have more overclocking headroom than the PII x6 with the average air cooler, so the PII's overclocking headroom is a null point when comparing the two processor families.

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[QUOTE="gmaster456"]The Quad Core i5 would still perform much better in games then the x6 but for stuff like HD video rendering, the x6 would have a slight upper hand especially at a higher clock speedMaoTheChimp

The i5 would very likely have more overclocking headroom than the PII x6 with the average air cooler, so the PII's overclocking headroom is a null point when comparing the two processor families.

The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock cooler
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[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

[QUOTE="gmaster456"]The Quad Core i5 would still perform much better in games then the x6 but for stuff like HD video rendering, the x6 would have a slight upper hand especially at a higher clock speedferret-gamer

The i5 would very likely have more overclocking headroom than the PII x6 with the average air cooler, so the PII's overclocking headroom is a null point when comparing the two processor families.

The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock cooler

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

The i5 would very likely have more overclocking headroom than the PII x6 with the average air cooler, so the PII's overclocking headroom is a null point when comparing the two processor families.

MaoTheChimp

The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock cooler

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

And yet it still gets outperformed by the overclocked 1090t in many applications.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

The i5 would very likely have more overclocking headroom than the PII x6 with the average air cooler, so the PII's overclocking headroom is a null point when comparing the two processor families.

MaoTheChimp

The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock cooler

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

Isn't the i5-760 one of the best (if not the best) bang 4 buck CPU out there? Clock for clock the i5 is better than the Phenom II X6, i.e. if both CPUs were clocked at the same MHz, say 3.8GHz, the i5 would come out on top. Unless you're running well threaded applications, I say the Core i5 is the better CPU.
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[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock coolerferret-gamer

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

And yet it still gets outperformed by the overclocked 1090t in many applications.

Wewt, look at the Q9505 go!

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when u overclock the X6 to 4ghz, nothing else matters really.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

C_Rule

And yet it still gets outperformed by the overclocked 1090t in many applications.

Wewt, look at the Q9505 go!

Lol, yep it is showing its age alright, but i also think its funny that my $100 athlon@3.4hz outperfoms the $210 i5 661@ 4.4ghz in the cinebench and x.264 benchies(never tried the others)

I think it is safe to say the i5 661 is not good price performance.

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[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

And yet it still gets outperformed by the overclocked 1090t in many applications.

ferret-gamer

Wewt, look at the Q9505 go!

Lol, yep it is showing its age alright, but i also think its funny that my $100 athlon@3.4hz outperfoms the $210 i5 661@ 4.4ghz in the cinebench and x.264 benchies(never tried the others)

I think it is safe to say the i5 661 is not good price performance.

It's doing pretty well against the 750, considering its a generation behind.
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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"] Wewt, look at the Q9505 go!

C_Rule

Lol, yep it is showing its age alright, but i also think its funny that my $100 athlon@3.4hz outperfoms the $210 i5 661@ 4.4ghz in the cinebench and x.264 benchies(never tried the others)

I think it is safe to say the i5 661 is not good price performance.

It's doing pretty well against the 750, considering its a generation behind.

Not too bad i suppose, i wonder how a fully fledged Q9550 would compare since that is basically a q9505 with double the cache

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#16 C_Rule
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It does perform a bit better with the 12mb cache, but not very much.
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[QUOTE="MaoTheChimp"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] The phenom 1090t goes to 3.8-4.0ghz on the stock coolerferret-gamer

And the i5 760, which has a stock frequency of 2.8GHz, can also hit that frequency with a roughly equal amount of consistency...

And yet it still gets outperformed by the overclocked 1090t in many applications.

The same article you pulled those charts from shows the i5 750 pulling ahead in a roughly equal amount of the tests :?

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Anyone remember when we moved from single thread games to dual? The AMD San Diego was far cheaper than the X2 and Intels and was better in 90% of the games on the market... Then we moved on a few months later and the cpu was pretty much worthless (as far as modern games were concerned). I don't think we are going to see games even begin to use 6 cores for awhile but when that happens the x6 will pull away from the rest. So in reality what you guys are talking about has been talked about again and again ect. Short term the i5 is the way to go... long term prob not.....
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Anyone remember when we moved from single thread games to dual? The AMD San Diego was far cheaper than the X2 and Intels and was better in 90% of the games on the market... Then we moved on a few months later and the cpu was pretty much worthless (as far as modern games were concerned). I don't think we are going to see games even begin to use 6 cores for awhile but when that happens the x6 will pull away from the rest. So in reality what you guys are talking about has been talked about again and again ect. Short term the i5 is the way to go... long term prob not.....yachtboy

I really don't think that the hexacore will have an "age" of it's own like the dual-core and quad-core. I think the next big step will be 8-core and 12-core chips.