GTX 780 In Mid-May; Nearly Identical to Titan Performance For Half The Price

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#51 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Can you really say you're surprised? You don't buy the absolute best, most expensive GPU on the market, and expect it to keep its value.

horgen123

But you don't expect to get bitten in the ass so quickly by the company that sold it.

 

You don't?  I do.  

#53 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

This be how the tech game is played. ____________________________________ love me little love my happiness Guild Wars 2 Gold Diablo 3 Gold RS Goldfcslynnlee

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

#54 Posted by darksusperia (6943 posts) -

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

blaznwiipspman1
bot don't care
#55 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

darksusperia

bot don't care

 

well that just means you enjoy bending over and taking the nvidia shtick where the sun dont shine.  You would fit in well in prison.

#56 Posted by Horgen (111443 posts) -
What part of bot did you not understand?

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

Can you really say you're surprised? You don't buy the absolute best, most expensive GPU on the market, and expect it to keep its value.

hartsickdiscipl

But you don't expect to get bitten in the ass so quickly by the company that sold it.

 

You don't?  I do.  

I don't. I expect them to at least wait 10 months.
#57 Posted by Gambler_3 (7607 posts) -

The moment I buy a new graphic card is the moment I stop giving crap about prices and new cards. The 8800GTS(G92) had nearly 8800 ultra performance for less than half the price, this is nothing new.

#58 Posted by darksusperia (6943 posts) -

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

blaznwiipspman1

bot don't care

 

well that just means you enjoy bending over and taking the nvidia shtick where the sun dont shine.  You would fit in well in prison.

bit slow are we?
#59 Posted by kraken2109 (13255 posts) -

Still waiting for news on the 760 or 760ti

#60 Posted by SystemsGO (1266 posts) -

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-700-series-launching-midmay-geforce-gtx-780-gk110-core-gtx-770-gtx-760-ti-gk104/

The most interesting part about the report is that we have already been hearing about the GeForce GTX Titan LE for the past few months. The card which is a consumer version of the already released Tesla K20C would not be another TItan GPU but rather the next flagship GeForce GTX 780 graphics card featuring the same specifications. The GeForce GTX 780 would be powered by the GK110 core boasting 2496 Cuda cores and a 5 GB GDDR5 VRAM which was indicated in a leaked picture of the board itself.
The leak could now be considered true since it was mentioned that Titan LE was just an internal codename of the card, retail name would be something else and with a different cooling scheme compared to the Titan. It was speculated that the Titan LE, now known as the GTX 780 would be priced around the $499 $599 mark.FaustArp

I can honestly say that I'm not very happy with nVidia right now.

I will very seriously consider AMD in 2014; at least they don't seem obsessed with f*cking over their most loyal customers.

 

AMD does the same things that Nvidia does simply to compete. You're just jaded because you overpaid. I said all along that card was no where near worth that much money and that I would. Hell, I didn't buy the 600 series, because I knew what was going to happen a few months later. I think the majority of us here knew what was going to happen the moment the 600 series released. You just have to obtain some patience in the GPU world, that's what I've learned.

#61 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="fcslynnlee"]This be how the tech game is played. ____________________________________ love me little love my happiness Guild Wars 2 Gold Diablo 3 Gold RS Goldblaznwiipspman1

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

 

We still don't know that this is what is going to happen.  

#62 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

The moment I buy a new graphic card is the moment I stop giving crap about prices and new cards. The 8800GTS(G92) had nearly 8800 ultra performance for less than half the price, this is nothing new.

Gambler_3

 

Good point.  

#63 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14679 posts) -

I hate rebadges.

#64 Posted by C_Rule (9813 posts) -

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

Actually very few companies do this kind of thing 3 months after a flagship release.  Intel, AMD, Samsung, whatever it is, always have a grace period of at least an year before a new flaghsip is released.  No company releases a product 3 months later at half the price, that is just a big F U to the enthusiasts.  

blaznwiipspman1

bot don't care

 

well that just means you enjoy bending over and taking the nvidia shtick where the sun dont shine.  You would fit in well in prison.

There is no face-palm picture on the internets which would do you justice...
#65 Posted by Addict187 (641 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-700-series-launching-midmay-geforce-gtx-780-gk110-core-gtx-770-gtx-760-ti-gk104/

The most interesting part about the report is that we have already been hearing about the GeForce GTX Titan LE for the past few months. The card which is a consumer version of the already released Tesla K20C would not be another TItan GPU but rather the next flagship GeForce GTX 780 graphics card featuring the same specifications. The GeForce GTX 780 would be powered by the GK110 core boasting 2496 Cuda cores and a 5 GB GDDR5 VRAM which was indicated in a leaked picture of the board itself.
The leak could now be considered true since it was mentioned that Titan LE was just an internal codename of the card, retail name would be something else and with a different cooling scheme compared to the Titan. It was speculated that the Titan LE, now known as the GTX 780 would be priced around the $499 $599 mark.GummiRaccoon

I can honestly say that I'm not very happy with nVidia right now.

I will very seriously consider AMD in 2014; at least they don't seem obsessed with f*cking over their most loyal customers.

I feel bad for you for not seeing this coming from a mile away.

He only speaks the truth. How you did not se this coming is funny. You mad at the wrong side you did to your self
#66 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

I think most of us probably saw something like this coming.  Titan doesn't exactly slaughter the 7970ghz edition across the board.  With that being said, you had to know that Nvidia's high-end GTX 700 card would perform in the same ballpark for a lot less money.  

#67 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

I think most of us probably saw something like this coming.  Titan doesn't exactly slaughter the 7970ghz edition across the board.  With that being said, you had to know that Nvidia's high-end GTX 700 card would perform in the same ballpark for a lot less money.  

hartsickdiscipl

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

#68 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I think most of us probably saw something like this coming.  Titan doesn't exactly slaughter the 7970ghz edition across the board.  With that being said, you had to know that Nvidia's high-end GTX 700 card would perform in the same ballpark for a lot less money.  

blaznwiipspman1

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

 

December 2012 or 2013?  I expected it to come out Q2/3 of this year.  

#69 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I think most of us probably saw something like this coming.  Titan doesn't exactly slaughter the 7970ghz edition across the board.  With that being said, you had to know that Nvidia's high-end GTX 700 card would perform in the same ballpark for a lot less money.  

hartsickdiscipl

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

 

December 2012 or 2013?  I expected it to come out Q2/3 of this year.  

 

obviously 2013, or even q1 2014.  If people knew the 700 series would release so soon after the titan, would anyone have really bought the titan?  The way I see this is a money grab.  Add this to another shady move by nvidia on a long list over the years.  But you will defend nvidia to the grave.

#70 Posted by FaustArp (1036 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

blaznwiipspman1

 

December 2012 or 2013?  I expected it to come out Q2/3 of this year.  

 

obviously 2013, or even q1 2014.  If people knew the 700 series would release so soon after the titan, would anyone have really bought the titan?  The way I see this is a money grab.  Add this to another shady move by nvidia on a long list over the years.  But you will defend nvidia to the grave.

^^This.  "Money grab" is the only term I can think of that fits if these rumors are true.

#71 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

December 2012 or 2013?  I expected it to come out Q2/3 of this year.  

FaustArp

 

obviously 2013, or even q1 2014.  If people knew the 700 series would release so soon after the titan, would anyone have really bought the titan?  The way I see this is a money grab.  Add this to another shady move by nvidia on a long list over the years.  But you will defend nvidia to the grave.

^^This.  "Money grab" is the only term I can think of that fits if these rumors are true.

 

yeah, these are still rumours, and fudzilla/wcf/bsn aren't known for their credibility either.  Its best to just wait it out and see what happens.

#72 Posted by FaustArp (1036 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

 

obviously 2013, or even q1 2014.  If people knew the 700 series would release so soon after the titan, would anyone have really bought the titan?  The way I see this is a money grab.  Add this to another shady move by nvidia on a long list over the years.  But you will defend nvidia to the grave.

blaznwiipspman1

^^This.  "Money grab" is the only term I can think of that fits if these rumors are true.

 

yeah, these are still rumours, and fudzilla/wcf/bsn aren't known for their credibility either.  Its best to just wait it out and see what happens.

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

#73 Posted by Richard_The_Gr8 (620 posts) -

when you buy a titan you know that you are paying for the name and look as well as the actual gpu....

#74 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

blaznwiipspman1

 

December 2012 or 2013?  I expected it to come out Q2/3 of this year.  

 

obviously 2013, or even q1 2014.  If people knew the 700 series would release so soon after the titan, would anyone have really bought the titan?  The way I see this is a money grab.  Add this to another shady move by nvidia on a long list over the years.  But you will defend nvidia to the grave.

 

Did I defend Nvidia?

#75 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

^^This.  "Money grab" is the only term I can think of that fits if these rumors are true.

FaustArp

 

yeah, these are still rumours, and fudzilla/wcf/bsn aren't known for their credibility either.  Its best to just wait it out and see what happens.

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

#76 Posted by FaustArp (1036 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

 

yeah, these are still rumours, and fudzilla/wcf/bsn aren't known for their credibility either.  Its best to just wait it out and see what happens.

hartsickdiscipl

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

I don't really see this point of view, and I'll tell you why...the GTX 690 as a point of comparison.  That was a $1000 card, right?  Those who spent big bucks on that card had the best dual-GPU single card for quite a long time before the Radeon 7990 came out.  In fact, nVidia still has not trumped it with another dual-GPU single card to date.

Compare that to one-upping the Titan 2 months later with a similar card for half price.  There is simply no comparison to be made.  I don't really see how one could "expect" that nVidia would do that in such a time frame.  That it would happen was inevitable, sure.  But that fast and to that degree?

I'm gonna completely agree with blazn here, that if these rumors are true, then Titan was a money grab.

#77 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

 

yeah, these are still rumours, and fudzilla/wcf/bsn aren't known for their credibility either.  Its best to just wait it out and see what happens.

hartsickdiscipl

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

 

LOL yeah, i would rather spend $1000 on a bunch of hot hookers than on gpus....such a geeky thing to do.  Well either way, a bitch move by nvidia is still a bitch move.

#78 Posted by wis3boi (32070 posts) -

As soon as titan was announced, I could see a mile away it was a cash grab geek porn piece

#79 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

FaustArp

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

I don't really see this point of view, and I'll tell you why...the GTX 690 as a point of comparison.  That was a $1000 card, right?  Those who spent big bucks on that card had the best dual-GPU single card for quite a long time before the Radeon 7990 came out.  In fact, nVidia still has not trumped it with another dual-GPU single card to date.

Compare that to one-upping the Titan 2 months later with a similar card for half price.  There is simply no comparison to be made.  I don't really see how one could "expect" that nVidia would do that in such a time frame.  That it would happen was inevitable, sure.  But that fast and to that degree?

I'm gonna completely agree with blazn here, that if these rumors are true, then Titan was a money grab.

 

Perhaps Titan was a money grab.  Maybe Titan will still be 5-8% faster than a GTX 780, stock vs stock.  If the 780 is $600, that wouldn't be that far out of line with what we've seen in some prior generations.  Either way, dual-GPU cards have always been a whole different animal.  People expect to pay big bucks and get flakier driver and support and somewhat less consistent performance.  That's why I don't think the GTX 690/7990 should really be part of the discussion.     

#80 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

Well I'm not really "waiting anything out," I am gonna keep my Titans until Maxwell regardless.

Just will be perturbed if nVidia releases a Titan-equivalent card for half the price like 2 months later.

blaznwiipspman1

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

 

LOL yeah, i would rather spend $1000 on a bunch of hot hookers than on gpus....such a geeky thing to do.  Well either way, a bitch move by nvidia is still a bitch move.

 

Not a bitch move.  A greedy move by a company that knows the market.  Besides, GTX 780 will likely be at least a little bit slower than Titan.  

#81 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

That's what you get for spending $1000 each for GPUs.  

hartsickdiscipl

 

LOL yeah, i would rather spend $1000 on a bunch of hot hookers than on gpus....such a geeky thing to do.  Well either way, a bitch move by nvidia is still a bitch move.

 

Not a bitch move.  A greedy move by a company that knows the market.  Besides, GTX 780 will likely be at least a little bit slower than Titan.  

 

its not only greedy, its unethical and betrayal of trust.  Karma is a bitch, and all of these companies that betray customer's trust always get bit in the ass at some point.  Things always come back full circle.  

As an example, in Canada we have a duopoly for ISP/telecom/tv by Rogers and Bell.  For years they were gouging the consumers, extra billing, hidden fees, etc etc and just recently 2 years ago tried to put a bandwidth cap of 40gb a month for internet.  I believe that was the straw that broke the camels back.  Now small isps are growing quickly.  Before their market share was around 5%, now it has nearly doubled to 10%.  The big telco's are getting scared and seriously trying to compete now, but still customers are willing to switch over to the smaller ISPS even though the plans are better than the small ISPS.  Why is that?  They lost their customers trust and now are facing an uphill battle to regain that.  

Anyways back on topic, rumors are rumors so I won't blame this on nvidia until we get closer to the supposed release date.  

#82 Posted by Jermone123 (803 posts) -

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

I think most of us probably saw something like this coming.  Titan doesn't exactly slaughter the 7970ghz edition across the board.  With that being said, you had to know that Nvidia's high-end GTX 700 card would perform in the same ballpark for a lot less money.  

blaznwiipspman1

 

most of us were expecting the 700 series by december or january.  Bitch move by nvidia.

 

I agree, it was pretty well known that AMD was not planning to release the 8000 series this year. I figured this titan that nvidia released was to cure the appetite of the real enthusiasts who do not want to wait this extra time frame for a new gfx series to come out. That is why there was a premium price. This is what I thought and many others did. But it seems as if Nvidia is throwing a curve ball on us lol.

So I can see why a Titan owner could be upset. I agree with other posters though, it is kinda your fault if you were worried about the price while purchasing. Someone buying a Titan should have the frame of mind that "this is the most powerful card out on the market and I do not mind paying a premium for that at all!". If that is your mind frame than rest assured you will still have the most powerful card for quite sometime. Well after the 780...

#83 Posted by sSubZerOo (44412 posts) -

Sorry if I don't feel for the people who blew $1000 or more on a completely unneccesary piece of hardware..

#84 Posted by FaustArp (1036 posts) -

Sorry if I don't feel for the people who blew $1000 or more on a completely unneccesary piece of hardware..

 

sSubZerOo

GPUs are unneccesary?  What?  

Are you playing on Integrated Graphics?  :|

#85 Posted by darksusperia (6943 posts) -

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Sorry if I don't feel for the people who blew $1000 or more on a completely unneccesary piece of hardware..

 

FaustArp

GPUs are unneccesary?  What?  

Are you playing on Integrated Graphics?  :|

he Jelly.
#86 Posted by mastershake575 (8364 posts) -

I agree, it was pretty well known that AMD was not planning to release the 8000 series this year.

Jermone123

I hope this isn't the case (with nvidia being aggressive, they really need to get them out by Fall/Winter). I'm going to be made if AMD waits almost two years just for a refresh lineup (espically if its released months before Maxwell).

#87 Posted by LordEC911 (9972 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jermone123"]I agree, it was pretty well known that AMD was not planning to release the 8000 series this year.

mastershake575

I hope this isn't the case (with nvidia being aggressive, they really need to get them out by Fall/Winter). I'm going to be made if AMD waits almost two years just for a refresh lineup (espically if its released months before Maxwell).

AMD will be releasing something before the end of the year.

#88 Posted by kraken2109 (13255 posts) -

Sounds like i'm the only one that's happy about this news :P

#89 Posted by abuabed (6606 posts) -

Sounds like i'm the only one that's happy about this news :P

kraken2109
I'm happy too :P I seriously need more VRAM for rendering and the Titan has enough VRAM but is insanely priced, so the Titan LE should be cheap enough for my needs.
#90 Posted by valium88 (4455 posts) -

This is excellent. I was considering gtx 650ti Boost SLI, but waiting a while longer and getting that instead seems more wise and probably not "that" far of from budget.

#91 Posted by mitu123 (154668 posts) -

Sorry if I don't feel for the people who blew $1000 or more on a completely unneccesary piece of hardware..

 

sSubZerOo

If you're gaming higher than 1080p or 1080p with 120-144hz, then it's not unnecessary...

#92 Posted by jesuschristmonk (3308 posts) -

whats funny is that I predicted this would happen nearly two weeks ago.  I claimed the 780 would be half the price of a titan and surpass it by around 10%.  I still stand by this.  AMD wasn't expected to release their new cards till 2014 Q1, so this move by nvidia MIGHT force AMD to move their schedule up, but I doubt it.

blaznwiipspman1
They probably did a similar thing to what Google did with their Chromebook Pixel, where they threw the craziest stuff into it, just to show they can do it, except Google encouraged people not to buy it since it wasn't truly made to actually be bought.
#93 Posted by Travis_Odell (1701 posts) -
why spend 1000$ on a videocard for what? Do you have a successful you tube channel and want to record with super high fps? TB bought two of them titans 2000$ and his youtube channel paid for it. Why would an average joe waste so much money and then bitch about it two months later.....stupid.
#94 Posted by wis3boi (32070 posts) -

Sorry if I don't feel for the people who blew $1000 or more on a completely unneccesary piece of hardware..

 

sSubZerOo

I agree.  Titan was a cash grab

#95 Posted by SPBoss (3704 posts) -
erm.. HAHA to people who bought a titan :D
#96 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6099 posts) -

erm.. HAHA to people who bought a titan :DSPBoss

 

dumb move by nvidia, now nobody will buy their flagships

#97 Posted by Klunt_Bumskrint (4758 posts) -
This stupid thread now has given me the itch to upgrade!!! I was originally going to wait until the 800's but don't think i'll be able to as I've got some good money coming in at the moment that I might put aside for MOAR POWA!! Stupid damn thread...
#98 Posted by Ben-Buja (2796 posts) -

This stupid thread now has given me the itch to upgrade!!! I was originally going to wait until the 800's but don't think i'll be able to as I've got some good money coming in at the moment that I might put aside for MOAR POWA!! Stupid damn thread... acanofcoke

Do you seriously consider upgrading from SLI 680s so soon? Is there even a game that took full advantage of your GPUs, even at 2560x1440?

#99 Posted by NFJSupreme (5497 posts) -

AMD just gave me an unexpected free game (Far Cry 3: Blood Dragons) so I feel for you nVidia guys.

#100 Posted by FaustArp (1036 posts) -

This stupid thread now has given me the itch to upgrade!!! I was originally going to wait until the 800's but don't think i'll be able to as I've got some good money coming in at the moment that I might put aside for MOAR POWA!! Stupid damn thread... acanofcoke

Haha, I put the thought in your head.  :P  Lol.

At 1440p you can put it to use I'd think.  I ordered a 1600p monitor yesterday, very curious to see how much more HP is required for these higher resolutions.

Speaking of which, did you notice a big jump in graphics quality when you went higher-res?