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#1 jking197
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Hi,
just wondering what the difference is between genric and branded RAM, and how different clockspeeds i.e 800Mhz, 600Mhz, etc affect the performance.
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#2 0757691
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Hi,
just wondering what the difference is between genric and branded RAM, and how different clockspeeds i.e 800Mhz, 600Mhz, etc affect the performance.
jking197
Duh, the speed of your ram. Faster is always better, in the gaming world!
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#3 DriftMax
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Hi,
just wondering what the difference is between genric and branded RAM, and how different clockspeeds i.e 800Mhz, 600Mhz, etc affect the performance.
0757691
Duh, the speed of your ram. Faster is always better, in the gaming world!

Ok shutup and stop posting in peoples topics you tool
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Hi,
just wondering what the difference is between genric and branded RAM, and how different clockspeeds i.e 800Mhz, 600Mhz, etc affect the performance.
0757691

Duh, the speed of your ram. Faster is always better, in the gaming world!


Duh? whats with the attitude mate? obvisoly he didnt know, god i didnt even know, i persumed the higher the number was better but i didnt know for certen, just because you dont have a life and you spend every god damm hourer sitting in fornt of a screen, and you feel smarter than most people. is no reason for you to take it out on other people grow up or get or these forums!!

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#5 jking197
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I know its faster, I was simply asking how much affect it had for the price it costs!!!
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#6 jking197
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Is the clock speed of RAM only useful if overclocking RAM? That's what i've been reading.
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#7 0757691
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Anyways, higher is betterand if your broke then don't buy. Do newsaper deleviry job and then buyit. Don't buy themslow ones!
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lol at previous posts, well the only reason i'd go for the branded rams is if i were to do some heavy overclocking, they usually are better for that.
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#9 0757691
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lol at previous posts, well the only reason i'd go for the branded rams is if i were to do some heavy overclocking, they usually are better for that. jfelisario
muah, dunno, do you know a lot about overclocking, caus if you don't you shouldn't
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#10 jking197
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ok, thanks
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#11 RayvinAzn
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Branded RAM generally uses higher-quality memory modules which can be overclocked higher and maintain their faster speeds - of course, those speeds aren't all that effective in the real world as the difference between DDR2 1066 and DDR2 667 is basically negligible for how much more you pay. If you do plan on overclocking, getting RAM with higher timings will help you out a lot, and the performance gains you do see won't be because of your faster RAM, but your ability to overclock your processor higher and still maintain stability.
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#12 jking197
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That makes it a bit clearer, thanks for your help man.
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#13 Gregoroth
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The branded stuff should use better quality memory chips.
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Rule of thumb. You get what you pay for. If you buy cheap....don't expect sizzling results
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[QUOTE="jfelisario"]lol at previous posts, well the only reason i'd go for the branded rams is if i were to do some heavy overclocking, they usually are better for that. 0757691
muah, dunno, do you know a lot about overclocking, caus if you don't you shouldn't

mmkay.....
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#16 0757691
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[QUOTE="0757691"][QUOTE="jfelisario"]lol at previous posts, well the only reason i'd go for the branded rams is if i were to do some heavy overclocking, they usually are better for that. jfelisario
muah, dunno, do you know a lot about overclocking, caus if you don't you shouldn't

mmkay.....

well like, if you really wanna have overclocked stuff, let a pro do it!
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#17 Deamon321
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Is the clock speed of RAM only useful if overclocking RAM? That's what i've been reading.jking197
yeah, pretty much. the fater the ram, the more u can OC ur processor. It basically makes no difference. liek what 0.5 frames better?
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#18 0757691
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[QUOTE="jking197"]Is the clock speed of RAM only useful if overclocking RAM? That's what i've been reading.Deamon321
yeah, pretty much. the fater the ram, the more u can OC ur processor. It basically makes no difference. liek what 0.5 frames better?

Also true, so guyz: do not overclock!
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It's too bad the "Report Abuse to Moderator" list doesn't include an option for "Being an asshat".
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It's too bad the "Report Abuse to Moderator" list doesn't include an option for "Being an asshat".theragu40
Well same to you buddy...
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I guess my question is this: are you just trying to get banned for the day? I know that by writing this, I am being just as useless as you, but reading through the boards, half of the threads have some useless comment from you. If you're just trying to incite fights then don't post. I don't mean to act like a mod here...I have no more power than you...I just want this to remain the moderately helpful tech support forum that it is without interference from people who have nothing relevant or helpful to contribute.
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^The best thing to do, if you feel someone is being an idiot, is to report them. (with justful cause). I do agree with you about people being annoying or talking rubbish but you know...:P
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^The best thing to do, if you feel someone is being an idiot, is to report them. (with justful cause). I do agree with you about people being annoying or talking rubbish but you know...:PGregoroth
Well, I'll try to behave... But you guyz have to help me then...
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If I not mistaken most ram chiips are manufactured by Infineon, Micron, or Samsung. I would think that any ram modules, regardless of the modules' brand name, that use chips made by one of these manufactures will be a quality product.
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#25 0757691
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If I not mistaken most ram chiips are manufactured by Infineon, Micron, or Samsung. I would think that any ram modules, regardless of the modules' brand name, that use chips made by one of these manufactures will be a quality product.burnsniper
That have to be true, those richer companies have tested their product more end know exactly what they can do. Just the same with amd and intel
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To dispell some myths perpetrating from this thread: 1) RAM overclock-ability has no bearing on how much you can overclock your processor. They run on separate busses and can be overclocked independently (at least on current hardware). Independent of overclocking the bus, RAM timings can also be tweaked and for select processors (engineering samples, extreme editions of Intel processors), multipliers can be tweaked. 2) In many ways timings are just as important as the clock speed the RAM runs in. RAM clocked at high speeds with poor timings can be worse than lower clocked RAM with good timings. You can also achieve higher clock speeds by relaxing the timings on your RAM - you need to find a good balance of clock speed vs. timings. So clock speed not necessarily equivalent to faster RAM. 3) Name brand usually carries with it a reputation and a warrantee, what's more important is the chip manufacturer of the RAM (i.e. Samsung, Hynix, and etc.), not the reseller brand (i.e. OCZ, Corsair). Reputation will get you things like better warranties, lower defect rates and maybe (and I stress maybe) a higher chance of higher overclocking room due to the better chip selections. Resellers don't guarantee overclock headroom, only that the RAM will run at bare minimum the sticker speed (i.e. 1066MHz, 5-5-5-18 2T advertised RAM will run at those speeds if you use it on a supported mother board). How much overclocking you can do on any particular device is based on luck of the draw. 4) The blanket statement of .5 FPS increase due to overclocking is false. If you look at gaming benchmarks there is definitely a larger net gain between the x6800 and e6600 processors of more than 0.5 FPS in most cases. Since the only difference between an x6800 and an e6600 is the multiplier and resulting clock speed (2.4GHz vs. 2.93GHz), if you overclock the e6600 to say 3.0GHz (which is very conservative and can be done in most cases with stock cooling) you will see equal or better performance in those games. Tom's Hardware has a CPU guide you can use to compare benchmarks here: http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=432&chart=169. I've personally given up aggressive overclocking ages ago, since I don't have the patience anymore to tweak settings small steps at a time and running stress tools overnight to find the optimal stability versus performance. I have a conservative 3.2GHz on the processor and I just run the RAM at the stock 1066 on my system. I've heard of people pushing the e6600 up to 3.6GHz on air and 4.0GHz on water.
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[QUOTE="cubiclegeek"]To dispell some myths perpetrating from this thread: 1) RAM overclock-ability has no bearing on how much you can overclock your processor. They run on separate busses and can be overclocked independently (at least on current hardware). Independent of overclocking the bus, RAM timings can also be tweaked and for select processors (engineering samples, extreme editions of Intel processors), multipliers can be tweaked. 2) In many ways timings are just as important as the clock speed the RAM runs in. RAM clocked at high speeds with poor timings can be worse than lower clocked RAM with good timings. You can also achieve higher clock speeds by relaxing the timings on your RAM - you need to find a good balance of clock speed vs. timings. So clock speed not necessarily equivalent to faster RAM. 3) Name brand usually carries with it a reputation and a warrantee, what's more important is the chip manufacturer of the RAM (i.e. Samsung, Hynix, and etc.), not the reseller brand (i.e. OCZ, Corsair). Reputation will get you things like better warranties, lower defect rates and maybe (and I stress maybe) a higher chance of higher overclocking room due to the better chip selections. Resellers don't guarantee overclock headroom, only that the RAM will run at bare minimum the sticker speed (i.e. 1066MHz, 5-5-5-18 2T advertised RAM will run at those speeds if you use it on a supported mother board). How much overclocking you can do on any particular device is based on luck of the draw. 4) The blanket statement of .5 FPS increase due to overclocking is false. If you look at gaming benchmarks there is definitely a larger net gain between the x6800 and e6600 processors of more than 0.5 FPS in most cases. Since the only difference between an x6800 and an e6600 is the multiplier and resulting clock speed (2.4GHz vs. 2.93GHz), if you overclock the e6600 to say 3.0GHz (which is very conservative and can be done in most cases with stock cooling) you will see equal or better performance in those games. Tom's Hardware has a CPU guide you can use to compare benchmarks here: http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu.html?modelx=33&model1=430&model2=432&chart=169. I've personally given up aggressive overclocking ages ago, since I don't have the patience anymore to tweak settings small steps at a time and running stress tools overnight to find the optimal stability versus performance. I have a conservative 3.2GHz on the processor and I just run the RAM at the stock 1066 on my system. I've heard of people pushing the e6600 up to 3.6GHz on air and 4.0GHz on water.

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well if the speed or freq is faster, then its better, no matter what brand. but usually big name brands are supported by more motherboards, so if you get an unheard of ram brand and you plug it in and your computer doesnt turn on then its bc your mobo doesnt support your ram. thats why i had to return mine which sucked and get corsair, which is amazingly awesome