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#1 n2y
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Fallout 3 is coming out and i think this is a great game but i didn't play any of its old Fallout series yet. I don't have an idea about the game's style or its universe and i want to learn and have any background about the game before the release of Fallout 3.

Is it still worth playing Fallout 1, 2 and tactics before i play Fallout 3?

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The stories in 1+2 and 3 won't really be connected, though you could try them, but might not like them anyway. The game playes like a turn based strategy and the graphics are pretty old. This doesn't mean I didn't like it
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Fallout 3 is coming out and i think this is a great game but i didn't play any of its old Fallout series yet. I don't have an idea about the game's style or its universe and i want to learn and have any background about the game before the release of Fallout 3.

Is it still worth playing Fallout 1, 2 and tactics before i play Fallout 3?

n2y

Definately worth playing for background purposes imo not to mention that they are a couple of the best crpg's of all time, the visuals are dated but it's not terrible and the great dialogue and setting more than make up for it.

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#4 mfsa
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If you're a fan of actual roleplaying games, yes.

If you're looking forward to Fallout 3 because you loved Oblivion, well, Fallout 1 and 2 are still awesome and games people should play, but they aren't what you're looking for.

I would say yes, absolutely - but they have god awful graphics, turn based combat that doesn't really start to get fun until about the half way point and a hell of a lot of reading.

So just make sure you know what you're buying before you buy it.

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#5 Delius
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If you don't mind the old 2d isometric graphics, Fallout 1 and 2 are definetly worth playing now. As for Fallout 3, I'm just hoping Bethesda keeps the feel of the original games.
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#6 n2y
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Tnx on your replies. I decided to try these games but i'm just gonna borrow from my friend.
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if you can get your hands on the old games yes they are worth playing lots of fun.
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The stories in 1+2 and 3 won't really be connected, though you could try them, but might not like them anyway. The game playes like a turn based strategy and the graphics are pretty old. This doesn't mean I didn't like itDarth_Kane

so far the only way that Fallout 1 & 2 don't connect with 3 is that in 3, I don't see how your character can be tied to the original Vault Dweller in Fallout 1. However, certain Storyline endings in 1 & 2 are responsible for why Fallout 3 is taking place.

Anyways Fallout 1 and 2 are ugly games but they are still enjoyable to play and will help you better understand why Fallout 3 is taking place.

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It is worth it if you are willing to give the game a chance. I almost got rid of the game the second I found out it was turnbased, but then I decided to play it a little longer and I played it non-stop.
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yes
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I consider them the best RPGs of all time (excluding tactics).

So that should answer your question.

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oh hell ya! make sure you play all the side missions that'll make it even better, if your friend has the strategy guides those will help.
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Yes, 1 and 2. Avoid 3, it isn't Fallout and it isn't a role-playing game.
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I remember my mutated toes fondly..!

Or having Marcus " accidently" cut me in half with his mini gun...

Or pimping out my wife so I could do more Jet and make pornos...( then selling her into slavery)

Ahhhh...those were the days....

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Do you enjoy traditional role playing games where you get to play your character exactly how you want to?

Have you ever played a pen and paper RPG and enjoyed it?

Can you enjoy a game that involves taking turns and reading?

If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, there's a good chance you will enjoy Fallout 1 and 2. Side effects may include loss of interest in any other Fallout sequal.

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Not only some of the best RPG's but some of the best games of all time. They and Red Alert 2 were the ones that got me into pc gaming. And imo the graphics hold up quite well because of its unique style.
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Do you enjoy traditional role playing games where you get to play your character exactly how you want to?

Have you ever played a pen and paper RPG and enjoyed it?

Can you enjoy a game that involves taking turns and reading?

If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, there's a good chance you will enjoy Fallout 1 and 2. Side effects may include loss of interest in any other Fallout sequal.

Alaris83

That is genius... and ever so true.
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#18 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="Alaris83"]Do you enjoy traditional role playing games where you get to play your character exactly how you want to?

Have you ever played a pen and paper RPG and enjoyed it?

Can you enjoy a game that involves taking turns and reading?

If you answered "Yes" to any of these questions, there's a good chance you will enjoy Fallout 1 and 2. Side effects may include loss of interest in any other Fallout sequal.

foxhound_fox

That is genius... and ever so true.

Indeed it is.
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Yes, 1 and 2. Avoid 3, it isn't Fallout and it isn't a role-playing game.foxhound_fox

so i assume you played a ton of fallout 3 then?

don't judge things you know little about.

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#20 foxhound_fox
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so i assume you played a ton of fallout 3 then?

don't judge things you know little about.

harakiri25

Have you been following all the previews? Have you noticed that most of the time it is being labelled as a shooter that is going to appeal to the people who loved Oblivion? The jury is already in on Fallout 3... its not Fallout.
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#21 quocthai
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the story is awesome, but the graphic didn't age well at all and the combat can be boring at the beginning plus there might be issue with new hardware. My copy of fall out had graphic issue with the new computer so I haven't play it since 2003.
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[QUOTE="harakiri25"]so i assume you played a ton of fallout 3 then?

don't judge things you know little about.

foxhound_fox


Have you been following all the previews? Have you noticed that most of the time it is being labelled as a shooter that is going to appeal to the people who loved Oblivion? The jury is already in on Fallout 3... its not Fallout.

For me, Fallout seemed like a older Morrowind (not a spectacular story, free roaming, plenty to do). I don't get why everyone says it will not be a Fallout game. Unlike Oblivion there will be choices that affect the world around you, so in my book, that's an RPG. You're just nostalgic, you need to let go of the past

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For me, Fallout seemed like a older Morrowind (not a spectacular story, free roaming, plenty to do). I don't get why everyone says it will not be a Fallout game. Unlike Oblivion there will be choices that affect the world around you, so in my book, that's an RPG. You're just nostalgic, you need to let go of the pastDarth_Kane

They are destroying the Fallout canon. I'm not saying the game will be "bad" but I am just offended that Bethesda is doing what they are to the Fallout IP.

Here is a good summary of how I feel about Bethesda doing what they are to Fallout:

It's not even the FPS stuff that drives me insane or the lack of role playing, it's the complete and utter disregard of logic.

Just to paint a picture here; before the events of the original Fallout the world went to war over the diminishing resources, petrol and uranium, "hell bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth". That war reduced most of the planet to rubble, as seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The government went out of their way, spending billions to built vaults under the Earth in order to protect the people from the nuclear war. They also built Power Armor in order to enchance combat ability. Radiation is still heavily felt in both games (i.e. The Glow). Ghouls are humans who have been severely disfigured due to radiaton. Not all super mutants were simpletons. So why is it that in Fallout 3 we have:

  • A town built in the crater of an unexploded nuke? A) How could an unexploded nuke have a crater? B) The population fears nuclear weapons, so why build a town around it?
  • Exploding nuclear cars. A) If the world went to war over sources of nuclear power, why are nuclear cars in such plentiful supply? B) Why hasn't anyone in the entire wasteland used this system as a means to develop? C) Why do they generate a mushroom cloud? D) Why doesn't the explosion destroy the car? E) Why does the radiation disappear almost immediately? F) The cars weren't even ****ing nuclear in the originals. They were all destroyed beyond comprehension.
  • A ****ing phone booth that protects from a nuclear explosion. What. The. ****. If they could build such a thing, what was the purpose of the vaults?!
  • It takes 5 NUKES (!) to kill a Behemoth. So why does it use a car door as a shield?
  • Why can ghouls leap at tremendous speed when they were falling apart in the originals? How can they heal eachother with radiation? How can they zap the player with radiation attacks?
  • Why doesn't intelligence alter my dialogue choices?
  • Again, nuclear power was a thing to be feared in the originals. So what purpose does the Fatman serve?
  • Power Armor negatively impacts the player's abilities.
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It's not Fallout... it is utter destruction of a fantastic series.
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#24 blackdreamhunk
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i'm a fallout fan but I'm not sure i will get fallout 3
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[QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]For me, Fallout seemed like a older Morrowind (not a spectacular story, free roaming, plenty to do). I don't get why everyone says it will not be a Fallout game. Unlike Oblivion there will be choices that affect the world around you, so in my book, that's an RPG. You're just nostalgic, you need to let go of the pastfoxhound_fox

They are destroying the Fallout canon. I'm not saying the game will be "bad" but I am just offended that Bethesda is doing what they are to the Fallout IP.

Here is a good summary of how I feel about Bethesda doing what they are to Fallout:

It's not even the FPS stuff that drives me insane or the lack of role playing, it's the complete and utter disregard of logic.

Just to paint a picture here; before the events of the original Fallout the world went to war over the diminishing resources, petrol and uranium, "hell bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth". That war reduced most of the planet to rubble, as seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The government went out of their way, spending billions to built vaults under the Earth in order to protect the people from the nuclear war. They also built Power Armor in order to enchance combat ability. Radiation is still heavily felt in both games (i.e. The Glow). Ghouls are humans who have been severely disfigured due to radiaton. Not all super mutants were simpletons. So why is it that in Fallout 3 we have:

  • A town built in the crater of an unexploded nuke? A) How could an unexploded nuke have a crater? B) The population fears nuclear weapons, so why build a town around it?
  • Exploding nuclear cars. A) If the world went to war over sources of nuclear power, why are nuclear cars in such plentiful supply? B) Why hasn't anyone in the entire wasteland used this system as a means to develop? C) Why do they generate a mushroom cloud? D) Why doesn't the explosion destroy the car? E) Why does the radiation disappear almost immediately? F) The cars weren't even ****ing nuclear in the originals. They were all destroyed beyond comprehension.
  • A ****ing phone booth that protects from a nuclear explosion. What. The. ****. If they could build such a thing, what was the purpose of the vaults?!
  • It takes 5 NUKES (!) to kill a Behemoth. So why does it use a car door as a shield?
  • Why can ghouls leap at tremendous speed when they were falling apart in the originals? How can they heal eachother with radiation? How can they zap the player with radiation attacks?
  • Why doesn't intelligence alter my dialogue choices?
  • Again, nuclear power was a thing to be feared in the originals. So what purpose does the Fatman serve?
  • Power Armor negatively impacts the player's abilities.

RobbieH1234


It's not Fallout... it is utter destruction of a fantastic series.

hmmm lets give this a try.

1. How could an exploded nuke have a crater? Google explosive ordinance and you will find that many bombs have a 10% failure rate and these bombs can land in craters while not exploded. A) In Fallout 1, All Super Mutants want to wipe out humanity but all of a sudden in Fallout 2, they're nice and one of them even joins your team... whoa someone call the contradiction police!

2) I'm not sure if you knew this but there was a car in Fallout 2 and one of the things that made it last longer was.... a Microfusion Cell, So I guess most cars ran on Microfusion but a lot of them that littered Fallout 2 must ran out of power to sufficiently run the cars, but I'm sure they could still pose a threat if tampered with if Fallout 2's technology let interaction with the environment. A) So since one thing in a car works, that means the whole car works? that doesn't sound like real life. B) They are nuclear powered C) Never played the game, maybe they do seeing as they haven't finished the game. D) It's a game and I'm sure they do radiation damage if you get close to it. E) They did

3) Could large populations live in a phone booth and survive for 100 years? Don't think so

4) Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

5) The Ghouls in Fallout 1 and 2 all originated from one Vault experiment. The ones on the east coast could be from another vault with total different outcome. A) it's a game and if they can create creatures, they can create what happens with them B) they're were Glowing Ghouls in the original fallout games that hurt humans if they came to close to them with their radiation

6) Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

7) 6 Weapons in Fallout 2 ran on Microfusion Cells... I didn't see anyone afraid of using these weapons.

8) Again, Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

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#26 n2y
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I will play Fallout 1 and 2 just to try how great they are but im not sure about Fallout 3 now. It is not out yet so be cool guys just wait 'till the game released and i'm just gonna wait on what will others and critics say about the game. :?
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I will play Fallout 1 and 2 just to try how great they are but im not sure about Fallout 3 now. It is not out yet so be cool guys just wait 'till the game released and i'm just gonna wait on what will others and critics say about the game. :?n2y

smart move, on both purchasing fallout 1 & 2 and waiting to see what kind of reviews fallout 3 will get. i have serious doubts (and fears) about fallout 3, but if it gets great reviews, then i'm definitely buying it.

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I never played a fallout game in my life, but im getting fallout 3, i really enjoyed Oblivion. So this should be good.
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I thought Fallout was the most polished RPG I have played. The world is very fleshed out and it definatly has its own style that cant be missed! Definatly one of my best experiences. Only downside is that the combat needs getting used to.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]For me, Fallout seemed like a older Morrowind (not a spectacular story, free roaming, plenty to do). I don't get why everyone says it will not be a Fallout game. Unlike Oblivion there will be choices that affect the world around you, so in my book, that's an RPG. You're just nostalgic, you need to let go of the pastsmerlus

They are destroying the Fallout canon. I'm not saying the game will be "bad" but I am just offended that Bethesda is doing what they are to the Fallout IP.

Here is a good summary of how I feel about Bethesda doing what they are to Fallout:

It's not even the FPS stuff that drives me insane or the lack of role playing, it's the complete and utter disregard of logic.

Just to paint a picture here; before the events of the original Fallout the world went to war over the diminishing resources, petrol and uranium, "hell bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth". That war reduced most of the planet to rubble, as seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The government went out of their way, spending billions to built vaults under the Earth in order to protect the people from the nuclear war. They also built Power Armor in order to enchance combat ability. Radiation is still heavily felt in both games (i.e. The Glow). Ghouls are humans who have been severely disfigured due to radiaton. Not all super mutants were simpletons. So why is it that in Fallout 3 we have:

  • A town built in the crater of an unexploded nuke? A) How could an unexploded nuke have a crater? B) The population fears nuclear weapons, so why build a town around it?
  • Exploding nuclear cars. A) If the world went to war over sources of nuclear power, why are nuclear cars in such plentiful supply? B) Why hasn't anyone in the entire wasteland used this system as a means to develop? C) Why do they generate a mushroom cloud? D) Why doesn't the explosion destroy the car? E) Why does the radiation disappear almost immediately? F) The cars weren't even ****ing nuclear in the originals. They were all destroyed beyond comprehension.
  • A ****ing phone booth that protects from a nuclear explosion. What. The. ****. If they could build such a thing, what was the purpose of the vaults?!
  • It takes 5 NUKES (!) to kill a Behemoth. So why does it use a car door as a shield?
  • Why can ghouls leap at tremendous speed when they were falling apart in the originals? How can they heal eachother with radiation? How can they zap the player with radiation attacks?
  • Why doesn't intelligence alter my dialogue choices?
  • Again, nuclear power was a thing to be feared in the originals. So what purpose does the Fatman serve?
  • Power Armor negatively impacts the player's abilities.

RobbieH1234


It's not Fallout... it is utter destruction of a fantastic series.

hmmm lets give this a try.

1. How could an exploded nuke have a crater? Google explosive ordinance and you will find that many bombs have a 10% failure rate and these bombs can land in craters while not exploded. A) In Fallout 1, All Super Mutants want to wipe out humanity but all of a sudden in Fallout 2, they're nice and one of them even joins your team... whoa someone call the contradiction police!

2) I'm not sure if you knew this but there was a car in Fallout 2 and one of the things that made it last longer was.... a Microfusion Cell, So I guess most cars ran on Microfusion but a lot of them that littered Fallout 2 must ran out of power to sufficiently run the cars, but I'm sure they could still pose a threat if tampered with if Fallout 2's technology let interaction with the environment. A) So since one thing in a car works, that means the whole car works? that doesn't sound like real life. B) They are nuclear powered C) Never played the game, maybe they do seeing as they haven't finished the game. D) It's a game and I'm sure they do radiation damage if you get close to it. E) They did

3) Could large populations live in a phone booth and survive for 100 years? Don't think so

4) Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

5) The Ghouls in Fallout 1 and 2 all originated from one Vault experiment. The ones on the east coast could be from another vault with total different outcome. A) it's a game and if they can create creatures, they can create what happens with them B) they're were Glowing Ghouls in the original fallout games that hurt humans if they came to close to them with their radiation

6) Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

7) 6 Weapons in Fallout 2 ran on Microfusion Cells... I didn't see anyone afraid of using these weapons.

8) Again, Haven't played the final version of the game so I can't confirm this nor can anyone else.

well said. it does not make much sense judging a game and nitpicking about the few scarce details known a the moment.

wait for the game to come out, try it and if it does not play well or feel like a fallout game you won't see me defending it too.