Did I just ruined a perfectly good plasma TV?

I bought a 50' plasma HDTV to watch the Super Bowl game. I watched the game for about two and a half hours, and turned the TV off. That same day I turned the TV back on and noticed some 'ghosting' of the NFL logo and score board. You can only see it when the TV powers on, then it fades out. Is this normal for just 2 hours of viewing to already get image burn in.

I keep my settings on 'movie mode' which makes the picture dark.

there is a break-in-period for brand new plasmas

What is the "break-in" period and what should I do during the break-in period to minimize any risk of image retention?
When your plasma TV is initially installed, the first 100 hours of use is known as the "break-in period." During this time, to minimize any risk of image retention, you should:

Make sure the plasma TV is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen. The panel is shipped in this condition, in what is called the "Just" mode.
Turn down the Picture setting (in the Picture menu) to +0.
Briefly engage the 4:3 mode and confirm the side bars are set to "Mid", or "Bright". This can be adjusted in the Set Up menu.
Always return the display mode that fills the screen (such as Just, Zoom, Full, or H-FILL).
Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time.
Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.). "

Same thing happened to me playing twilight princess. Don't sweat it. Hidden inside your tv's menu should be a static option (don't know its name, but it does that, satic) that's there exactly to remove ghosting. I ran it for like 3 mins and then everything was fine.

Newer plasmas will still have image retention if you dont give the phosphorus a break in period. Take note that i said "retention" and not "burn in". The two should not be confused with one another. Retention will go away with general usage eventually.

this is why its more wise to get an lcd or led tv which will be succeeded by a laser tv in 10 years(laser tvs will last as long as CRT tvs and look better than anything out today. prototypes are being developed today)

this is why its more wise to get an lcd or led tv which will be succeeded by a laser tv in 10 years(laser tvs will last as long as CRT tvs and look better than anything out today. prototypes are being developed today)

bigM10231

LCD stsinks its laggy and does bad colours

Laser tvs? I think holograms are next after OLED becomes the norm. I think the term "tv" may even be on the way out.

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this is why its more wise to get an lcd or led tv which will be succeeded by a laser tv in 10 years(laser tvs will last as long as CRT tvs and look better than anything out today. prototypes are being developed today)

dontshackzmii

LCD stsinks its laggy and does bad colours

Sigh. There is nothing wrong with your plasma tv.

if lcd screens are more expensive, then why is it the cheapest at sams club?(toshiba by the way)

What are the specs? Refresh rate, contrast ratio, size, resolution... Your standard lcd will be dirt cheap, but look terrible compared to a better panel. The entry level for plasmas is probably more simply because they start at 42" for 1080p I believe. If they had 1080p+ 24-30" plasmas I'd be all over them. BeavermanA

and it can do 1080i

[QUOTE="BeavermanA"]What are the specs? Refresh rate, contrast ratio, size, resolution... Your standard lcd will be dirt cheap, but look terrible compared to a better panel. The entry level for plasmas is probably more simply because they start at 42" for 1080p I believe. If they had 1080p+ 24-30" plasmas I'd be all over them. bigM10231

and it can do 1080i

All LCD's are just trying to meet the performance of the best plasmas. Localized LED dimming helps LCD get closer to plasma, but as you mentioned, usually at a much higher price.rastan

not to ruin the tc thread. but i thought i would share mystory from this weekend. i ordered my friend a 60` LG plasma and it came in on saturday. so i went over to helphim mount it. first of all the thing was huge!!!. the box it came in was as long as his pool table lol. well it was kinda strange looking. because it has a giant sheet of glass as the screen i guess? it stuck out over the edges of the tv and a little less then a half inch on all sides. we never really gave it a second thought. so we lefted out of the box. as we lefted it my friend said the glass is cracking!!! i said no its just the plastic covering under it. so he removed it and i heard it cracking my self. it came already on a stand which was very flimsy. we took it off the stand and carried it about 10 feet to the wall where he wanted it mounted. by this time the 150 plus pounds the tv was felt like 500 lbs to me!!! as i tried to get one leg on the chair that we had to use to reach the mount my arms were going dead on me. i said you gotta wait and set it down i cant left it any higher then my chest. so i start to go down to one kneetrying not to set it down on its bottom because of the glass sticking out. the thing was crushing me and when my friend tried to st his side down he didnt angle it so it would be set on the back panel of the tv. the glass cracked accross the the bottom then started to run up the left side of the screen!!. mea meanwhile the only thing hold my side up was my big toe that was under the tv so the botton wasnt touch the ground. i felt really bad that his new tv cracked.even though he is the one that set it on the ground wrong. it was my fault that we had to sit it down.

not to ruin the tc thread. but i thought i would share mystory from this weekend. i ordered my friend a 60` LG plasma and it came in on saturday. so i went over to helphim mount it. first of all the thing was huge!!!. the box it came in was as long as his pool table lol. well it was kinda strange looking. because it has a giant sheet of glass as the screen i guess? it stuck out over the edges of the tv and a little less then a half inch on all sides. we never really gave it a second thought. so we lefted out of the box. as we lefted it my friend said the glass is cracking!!! i said no its just the plastic covering under it. so he removed it and i heard it cracking my self. it came already on a stand which was very flimsy. we took it off the stand and carried it about 10 feet to the wall where he wanted it mounted. by this time the 150 plus pounds the tv was felt like 500 lbs to me!!! as i tried to get one leg on the chair that we had to use to reach the mount my arms were going dead on me. i said you gotta wait and set it down i cant left it any higher then my chest. so i start to go down to one kneetrying not to set it down on its bottom because of the glass sticking out. the thing was crushing me and when my friend tried to st his side down he didnt angle it so it would be set on the back panel of the tv. the glass cracked accross the the bottom then started to run up the left side of the screen!!. mea meanwhile the only thing hold my side up was my big toe that was under the tv so the botton wasnt touch the ground. i felt really bad that his new tv cracked.even though he is the one that set it on the ground wrong. it was my fault that we had to sit it down.

monson21502

we cut the box open. there wasnt nothing at all wrong with the screen. but when we started to left it from the white foam protectors we heard it starting to crack. the tv looks like they just glued a gaint sheet of glass that was a little to big for the frame. only way to grab it without putting presure on the glass was grabbing the top back and putting the other hand on the bottom back. which made it harder to left. i told my friend the buyer reviews had people saying you should have two people to take it out of the box and 3 or 4 people to mount it. but he wouldnt listen to me. im not sure if that glass a part of the screen. i never seen a tv like that before. next time im over there i`ll try to take some pics of it. it has a really baddesign flaw imo

There's definitely a design issue with the glass acting as the "frame" of the TV. My guess is that it's an additional piece of glass placed on top of the plasma glass panel which would definitely also add some extra heft. Unfortunately it seems you put some undue pressure on that glass frame holding it by the glass and then probably twisting it some what while you placed it.rastan

I'd call them and tell them that it was already cracked in the box.rastan

[QUOTE="rastan"]I'd call them and tell them that it was already cracked in the box.monson21502

Not to sound rude or anthing, but you don't sound like either one of you have any business handling that TV. From your follow up posts you sound like you were aware that just the two of you weren't up to the task. According to the product page on Newegg, that tv barely weighs more than 100 lbs when you take the stand off it. Convince your friend that you need some extra help before the two of you damage another tv. You have to be careful when handling a plasma. You cannot twist the display at all or you risk damaging it, and unfortunately, it sounds like that's what might have happened here. Having said that, I agree that the glass should not have cracked so easily if it was handled proplerly.

No return that thing. Newer plasma televisions shouldnt burn in like that after only 2 hours.albi321

That's not burn-in. In fact, it's extremely hard to burn in a new plasma nowadays.

The first 200 hours the tv will ghost nearly any definitive image, even if you're on the channel for only a minute or two. This is called ghosting or image retention. Not hard to get rid of.

1.) Some plasma's have a screen wipe or white screen ability, use it, it either wipes the screen with a white screen that gradually wipes to a black and back again. Or turns the screen all white. It helps get rid of image retention.

2.) Turn the channel to a non-hd channel and let it play for an hour or two. It'll wipe the image the same way as described above, instead using the tv channel itself.

3.) Put the input to tv tuner, and unplug the cable. The "snow" is another way of getting rid of image retention.

You'll find that as you break in your new plasma this happens. Heck, going to a DVD menu in the first few hours might leave an image. Don't panic, it's NOT BURN IN.

this is why its more wise to get an lcd or led tv which will be succeeded by a laser tv in 10 years(laser tvs will last as long as CRT tvs and look better than anything out today. prototypes are being developed today)

bigM10231

Plasma's last as long as CRT's. The myths about plasma's only applied to the first couple years it was on the market. There is a great discussion and review of plasma's done by Cnet.

Not to sound rude or anthing, but you don't sound like either one of you have any business handling that TV. From your follow up posts you sound like you were aware that just the two of you weren't up to the task. According to the product page on Newegg, that tv barely weighs more than 100 lbs when you take the stand off it. Convince your friend that you need some extra help before the two of you damage another tv. You have to be careful when handling a plasma. You cannot twist the display at all or you risk damaging it, and unfortunately, it sounds like that's what might have happened here. Having said that, I agree that the glass should not have cracked so easily if it was handled proplerly.

NiHM

in english we write the word "lift" to describe the picking up of an object, its not spelt like the direction "left" as u did so many times during your story.

in english we write the word "lift" to describe the picking up of an object, its not spelt like the direction "left" as u did so many times during your story.

kungfool69