Crysis 2 writer says Modern Warfare 2 story is crap.

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#1 spiderman120988
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=242227

Richard Morgan, the sci-fi novelist bashed MW2 for poor storytelling and for being essentially the same game without any improvement. I agree with the second point and partially agree to the first. I think IW cares little for story and was just concerned with making big explosions like a Michael Bay film. It seems Crytek is treating the story seriously for its sequel so let's hope it turns out good. I liked the trailer because it was unique and wasn't like other trailers where it showed quick edits of action. It reminded me of Bioshock in trying to set a certain mood.

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#2 JangoWuzHere
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Crysis 2 is setting up to be one of the best storys in FPS history if its coming from this guy.

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#3 quijeros
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I never even knew that Richard Morgan was writing the story for Crysis 2. :shock: That actually makes me more excited for the game.

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#4 theafiguy
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Huh, looks like Crysis 2 might be a major improvement over the first for me :)
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#5 Zebaztiano
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Can't wait for Crysis 2!!! OMG!!!

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#6 Ninja_Dog
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Can't wait for the story in Crysis 2 to bomb.
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#7 Barbariser
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He's not wrong.

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#8 illmatic87
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yeah he has a point.. but im sure prison is crap too :)
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#9 AAllxxjjnn
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yeah he has a point.. but im sure prison is crap too :)illmatic87
You're confusing Richard Morgan with Peter Watts. Peter Watts is the one who was arrested.
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#10 GeneralShowzer
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This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.
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#11 Mochyc
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He's right, but Crysis' story was just as crap, if not more crap.
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#12 GeneralShowzer
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He's right, but Crysis' story was just as crap, if not more crap.Mochyc
Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

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#13 Fearlessbro
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I wonder if Crysis 2 will have Multiplayer or is it only a Singleplayer / Co op game?
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#14 Tresca_
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...we don't play video games for stories you douche.GeneralShowzer

Maybe for the majority of people. Why would you not want someone acknowledging one of the main weaknesses in gaming today?

Did you play The Longest Journey only to click a mouse?

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#15 GazaAli
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MW2 story was terrible. i enjoyed the gameplay, but the dam story was so cliche and naive as if it was written by a complete amateur. I mean whats it with this guy killing his own team members? amd the way they presented it as if something breath taking just happened :lol:

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#16 kevy619
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mw2 single player is crap period, it may as well been alate 90s light gun shooter.

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#17 TheGrayEye
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I remember saying how bad MW2's story looked before the game came out, on the 360 forums. I was treated with a massive onslaught of hate and people telling me to go piss off. Thing is though, I was right.

TC, I think you should post this in the 360 section as well, I would love to see the response now...

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#18 Cdscottie
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This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.GeneralShowzer
"We" don't play video games for stories? Guess I'm not part of that "We" as I'd rather a game with a good story over most games that end up just being "mindless". I mean yes, there are games I play with no story and enjoy immensely but when it comes to single-player I love a good story.
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#19 kevy619
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.Cdscottie
"We" don't play video games for stories? Guess I'm not part of that "We" as I'd rather a game with a good story over most games that end up just being "mindless". I mean yes, there are games I play with no story and enjoy immensely but when it comes to single-player I love a good story.

well for good stories, video games are a poor place to go. there are rpgs here and there that have good stories, but for the most part the stories are about as good as the stories in porno movies.
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#20 Cdscottie
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[QUOTE="Cdscottie"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.kevy619
"We" don't play video games for stories? Guess I'm not part of that "We" as I'd rather a game with a good story over most games that end up just being "mindless". I mean yes, there are games I play with no story and enjoy immensely but when it comes to single-player I love a good story.

well for good stories, video games are a poor place to go. there are rpgs here and there that have good stories, but for the most part the stories are about as good as the stories in porno movies.

Hey, you leave those hard working plumbers, pool cleaners, and pizza delivery guys alone!

I know the main reason why Homeworld has been held so close to my heart is due to the story, same goes for WiC, and even to a lesser extent SC. I understand it is sometimes hard to convey a story through a FPS but if they can make me feel for 30 fighters being blown to kingdom come or a few zealots, then they can find a way to make an engaging story in an FPS.

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[QUOTE="Mochyc"]He's right, but Crysis' story was just as crap, if not more crap.GeneralShowzer

Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

At least MW2s was entertaining.... Crysis mayaswell of been "drop me here, shoot some chinese guys and oh look flying robots."
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#22 Anarchist-TKC-1
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I have to agree the story for Crysis wasn't exactly great. MW2 wasn't much better... lets wait and see what Crysis 2 brings us!
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#23 DanielDust
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I wonder if Crysis 2 will have Multiplayer or is it only a Singleplayer / Co op game?Fearlessbro
The multiplayer parts is actually entirely developed by another Crytek division, Crytek UK and they say it'll be made for PC and altered for consoles to work as best as it can on all platforms.

I have to agree the story for Crysis wasn't exactly great. MW2 wasn't much better... lets wait and see what Crysis 2 brings us!Anarchist-TKC-1

That's his point, he says that a sequel needs to be better than the previous game, so he assures us that Crysis 2 will have a better story than the first, and he is extremely dissappointed because MW 2 isn't better not even of the same quality as 4, it's worse.

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#24 mrbojangles25
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Considering the story of Crysis 1, this is...whats the expression? THe pot calling the kettle black?

I love Crysis, but that does not mean I dont think it has its share of flaws...and a poor story is one of those flaws.

While I hope this author can walk the walk and isnt as arrogant as he sounds, I wont expect much.

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#25 spiderman120988
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Games might not have great stories compared to films or books but it is an important element for me. I thought Crysis' plot was all right, it was rather plausible given US, North Korean relations but the cliffhanger was too Halo 2-like. In any case, I'm looking forward to Crysis 2 so don't let me down, Morgan!
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#26 cyborg100000
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I don't see how they can improve the story from what they've started off with.

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This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.GeneralShowzer
Which is hilariously ironic as The Longest Journey is your profile picture.
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#28 Yanduan
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Ok.. now my expectation for Crysis 2 has rised even higher

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#29 Ondoval
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Considering the story of Crysis 1, this is...whats the expression? THe pot calling the kettle black?

mrbojangles25

But Richard Morgan was not related with Crysis 1 in any way. He was just hired weeks ago to made the Crysis 2 screenplay (along with the initial Crysis 2 screenplay writer, Peter Watts, which also isn't related to Crysis 1).

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#30 spiderman120988
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Obviously Crytek knew the original's story wasn't all that great...otherwise, why hire a novelist to help out? They had extra money and didn't want to give their employees bonuses?!
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#31 GazaAli
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Considering the story of Crysis 1, this is...whats the expression? THe pot calling the kettle black?

I love Crysis, but that does not mean I dont think it has its share of flaws...and a poor story is one of those flaws.

While I hope this author can walk the walk and isnt as arrogant as he sounds, I wont expect much.

mrbojangles25
Stop supporting IW :evil:...joking :P indeed Crysis 1 story was really bland, specially the alien part.
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#32 mrbojangles25
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[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Considering the story of Crysis 1, this is...whats the expression? THe pot calling the kettle black?

I love Crysis, but that does not mean I dont think it has its share of flaws...and a poor story is one of those flaws.

While I hope this author can walk the walk and isnt as arrogant as he sounds, I wont expect much.

GazaAli

Stop supporting IW :evil:...joking :P indeed Crysis 1 story was really bland, specially the alien part.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! Death to IW!

and yea, the aliens were bland. They might as well have just been a vicious animal or something. Hopefully they give the aliens dialogue, a heirarchy, and some sense of civilization.

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#33 GazaAli
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

Considering the story of Crysis 1, this is...whats the expression? THe pot calling the kettle black?

I love Crysis, but that does not mean I dont think it has its share of flaws...and a poor story is one of those flaws.

While I hope this author can walk the walk and isnt as arrogant as he sounds, I wont expect much.

mrbojangles25

Stop supporting IW :evil:...joking :P indeed Crysis 1 story was really bland, specially the alien part.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK! Death to IW!

and yea, the aliens were bland. They might as well have just been a vicious animal or something. Hopefully they give the aliens dialogue, a heirarchy, and some sense of civilization.

Yea, rather than a floating blue things!
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#34 dakan45
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To be ownest i put crysis story a bit lower than mw2 story. The story was more unreallistic with many familiar parts in the game. Also the characters were weak and generic without feeling any attachement for them. It would help if i saw Nomad dying in crysis 2 just like it happen with...well i wont spoil the modern warfare games but i am sure that by now we all now that atleast one of the main character is dying in one of those two games. ;) Anyway i found mw2 characters to be better than crysis and conversation to be more meaningfull. Now regarding crysis 2 and the writer? Its good to know they got a new writer, but he has no right talking about the game. He should only bash the story since he is a writer. The "essentially the same without any improvement" is a bit far fetched. There are improvements but true it still feels like the same game. Big deal i guess its just an opinion. I know people who say that all halo and gears of war 2 dont have any significant improvements to be called sequels or diffirent games. It is my opinion that stalker games are way too similar and essentially the same game and i know many people who found bioshock 2 to be a bioshock 1.5. So i guess at the end its just an opinion. Wherever crysis 2 will be so good regarding the story telling? That i cant tell yet, but if he is going to do stuff like the teaser trailer and use lines like "we cannot fight new wars with old weapons" Then i highly doubt the story will be good. Anyway thats what i think from a early perspective without having seen the game yet. Best course of action is to wait and see.
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#35 dakan45
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Mochyc"]He's right, but Crysis' story was just as crap, if not more crap.Birdy09

Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

At least MW2s was entertaining.... Crysis mayaswell of been "drop me here, shoot some chinese guys and oh look flying robots."

Well many people bash mw2, but i found it pretty entertaining, crysis however...not. Just wanted to tell you that i agree with you. Same experiance here. O look matrix flying robots!!!
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

dakan45

At least MW2s was entertaining.... Crysis mayaswell of been "drop me here, shoot some chinese guys and oh look flying robots."

Well many people bash mw2, but i found it pretty entertaining, crysis however...not. Just wanted to tell you that i agree with you. Same experiance here. O look matrix flying robots!!!

Have you complete Warhead aswell? the scene where Psycho gets abit mad n kills a guy... the level of failure in that scene trying to create an ounce of story or depth to this english stereotype was laughable, at least the British SAS in MW2 are actually likeable characters and you give a damn what happens to them.

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mw2 was good gameplay wise because the missions had a lot of different enviroments and set pieces and i enjoyed playing through it but story was awful....

and it was pretty much the same as mw.

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This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.GeneralShowzer


You - and so many other gamers in your generation are the reason that video game industries pump out nothing but "dime a dozen" FPS's rather than quality story-driven video games......

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

dakan45

At least MW2s was entertaining.... Crysis mayaswell of been "drop me here, shoot some chinese guys and oh look flying robots."

Well many people bash mw2, but i found it pretty entertaining, crysis however...not. Just wanted to tell you that i agree with you. Same experiance here. O look matrix flying robots!!!

Many people bash MW 2 because its a total rip off. Even the generic Return to Castle Wolfenstein with zombie nazis told a better story than MW 2.

I played the game, and...wow. I could not believe people actually like this game. This entire game is shorter than Crysis Warhead, and that at least tried to tell a story. MW 2 is just bunch of random levels thrown together.

Look, I am back by the way.

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#42 chandu83
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.Digital_DJ_00



You - and so many other gamers in your generation are the reason that video game industries pump out nothing but "dime a dozen" FPS's rather than quality story-driven video games......

Well, we have a game in Crysis that at least pushed FPS genre forward with great graphics and fantastic gameplay.
On the other end of the spectrum we have Modern Warfare 2, which did nothing but push the player forward, being schizophrenic and so wrapped in itself that there is no semblance of a plot.
No exploration, no story, and this is Modern Warfare 1.1, not Modern Warfare 2.

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#43 gashoe13
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Dang.....

RICHARD MORGAN FTW

sweet.

Can't wait

but I have to agree. Modern Warfare's story was about as eloquent as a hyperactive 2 year old forced to write a college personal statement.

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#44 Darksonic666
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I never even knew that Richard Morgan was writing the story for Crysis 2. :shock: That actually makes me more excited for the game.

quijeros
Whos richard morgan ?
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#45 AlphaJC
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modern warfare 2 story was crap.

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#46 AlphaJC
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people seem to forget the 90's wee full of dime a dozen FPS and yet people regard he 90's as the best era for FPS. Look at quake barely a story (actually wait no never mind. lol
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#47 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="Birdy09"] At least MW2s was entertaining.... Crysis mayaswell of been "drop me here, shoot some chinese guys and oh look flying robots." Birdy09

Well many people bash mw2, but i found it pretty entertaining, crysis however...not. Just wanted to tell you that i agree with you. Same experiance here. O look matrix flying robots!!!

Have you complete Warhead aswell? the scene where Psycho gets abit mad n kills a guy... the level of failure in that scene trying to create an ounce of story or depth to this english stereotype was laughable, at least the British SAS in MW2 are actually likeable characters and you give a damn what happens to them.

I honestly thought I was the only who found it comical, lol...

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[QUOTE="Mochyc"]He's right, but Crysis' story was just as crap, if not more crap.GeneralShowzer

Crysis' story was decent and nothing special, but MW2 was incoherent garbage.

This, completely far-fetched, the kind of thing an adolescent boy would dream up and call epic!
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#49 djmillard2
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This guy reminds of Peter Molyneux. He never shuts up. Wasn't he bashing Halo ? We get it you are a famous writer and most games have a crap story, but we don't play video games for stories you douche. There are better ways to get publicity.GeneralShowzer
speak for your self. I love videogames with a good story. mass effect series would have been crap without the story elements.