Battlefield 3 - There is still hope

Sadly for those of you using XP or having dated graphics cards battlefield 3 will not support DX9, but read the article

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14494-battlefield-3-leaving-dx-9-behind-frostbite-2-engine-good-news-for-pc-gamers/

Thats amazing news! Maybe they are just going to do a port of the PC version to the consoles using the Frostbite engine or something while the PC version is really untouched.

So the PC is not going to use DX9 but the console are? I dont get it.

So the PC is not going to use DX9 but the console are? I dont get it.

mattuk69

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

So the PC is not going to use DX9 but the console are? I dont get it.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

yeah like Battle Field 2. there was a totaly diffreint PC verson. and there was a totaly diffreint consoloe version

[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

So the PC is not going to use DX9 but the console are? I dont get it.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"]

So the PC is not going to use DX9 but the console are? I dont get it.

TerrorRizzing

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

Well actually what im thinking is it will be like BF2 and BF2 Modern Combat on the PS2 and Xbox. They built the PC version for many years and then released it, later they released a very different version on the consoles.

I'm starting to think that BF3 on the PC is going to be a proper sequel. Dice had been building it up for awhile. It not using DX9 is bold as well. They did that with BF2 though when they didn't support DX8.

From reading everything it sounds like they have several versions of the engine designed on each platform. The PC version of BC2 used the Frostbite engine which was a console engine ported to the PC, it had other limitations but the reason they stated smaller maps and lower players was bandwidth. However since they probably just wanted to get it on the PC they didn't bother making the PC all that much different gameplay wise.

For BF3 they are probably working on all three versions, not just the PC version to be ported, but they are probably building it specific to each platform. The PC version will get all the bells and whistles and the console versions will get what they can handle. Think of Dragon Age Origins. The PC version had different gameplay mechanics. I'm thinking something like that is going to happen.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="Ikuto_Tsukiyomi"]

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

Wasdie

Well actually what im thinking is it will be like BF2 and BF2 Modern Combat on the PS2 and Xbox. They built the PC version for many years and then released it, later they released a very different version on the consoles.

I'm starting to think that BF3 on the PC is going to be a proper sequel. Dice had been building it up for awhile. It not using DX9 is bold as well. They did that with BF2 though when they didn't support DX8.

ya im glad actually, I find it funny people talk about dx9 when the ps3 doesnt even support any dx. The failure of windows vista is what kept dx9 going so long, that and the fact that microsoft never upgraded xp past dx9.TerrorRizzing

DX9 proved to be amazing. Developers really took it to the next levels. Crysis is a DX9 game with some DX 10 features that are kind of useless and unoptimized. Crysis, the game that looks as good as Pixar movies, is DX9. DX9 is insanely flexible.

However DX11 allows different rendering techniques that take advantage of different hardware. A dedicated DX11 engine will run more smoothly on DX11 hardware and still look better than a DX9/DX10 game trying to run at the same graphical fidelity. DX11 seems to be the real next step.

We won't see leaps like DX7 to DX8 or DX 8 to DX9 again, but now stuff just starts to get more detailed and more focus on optimization of current rendering techniques that will make prettier graphics run better

Awesome. I love the battlefield games for pc.

Good stuff

If the PC version is the proper sequel, I'll stop being angry.

Hopefully the console port isn't crappy.krazy-blazer

There is no console port, it's going to be a PC port.

The game needing DX10 doesn't necessarily say much. Just Cause 2 needed DX10, and while I enjoyed what I played of its demo on the PC, it most definitely was designed as a console game first and foremost in every conceivable way. And as quoted in the article, they've already come out and said doing the sort of thing they did with BF2: Modern Combat would not be financially feasible, so I don't expect this to be a similar situation to that at all.

While I have hope this will be a truer PC Battlefield experience than BC2 (which I agree with the article's assessment of, DICE did a good enough job making it feel like a PC game, but its game design still felt downsized for consoles), I have no doubt this will still be an attempt to make "the same game," functionally, across platforms, and cynically believe that simply cannot be done without some measure of downsizing to the PC version. Still, hopefully it will be kept to a minimum.

maybe the movement is smoother.

I'm very skeptical of anything Dice says now. They just seem to rush their games out now too, even moreso than before. I'm very sure BF3 will not be like BF2 was. It'll be a game developed for all 3 platforms. The fact they will include a beta with Medal of Honor just makes me even more dissapointed in Dice. These betas seem to be a trend these days, particularly with console games.

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"][QUOTE="Ikuto_Tsukiyomi"]

It means it wont be a Console to PC port. It'll possibly be a PC to Console port.

Wasdie

Well actually what im thinking is it will be like BF2 and BF2 Modern Combat on the PS2 and Xbox. They built the PC version for many years and then released it, later they released a very different version on the consoles.

I'm starting to think that BF3 on the PC is going to be a proper sequel. Dice had been building it up for awhile. It not using DX9 is bold as well. They did that with BF2 though when they didn't support DX8.

From reading everything it sounds like they have several versions of the engine designed on each platform. The PC version of BC2 used the Frostbite engine which was a console engine ported to the PC, it had other limitations but the reason they stated smaller maps and lower players was bandwidth. However since they probably just wanted to get it on the PC they didn't bother making the PC all that much different gameplay wise.

For BF3 they are probably working on all three versions, not just the PC version to be ported, but they are probably building it specific to each platform. The PC version will get all the bells and whistles and the console versions will get what they can handle. Think of Dragon Age Origins. The PC version had different gameplay mechanics. I'm thinking something like that is going to happen.

This is the best possible situation I can hope for now. But my hopes aren't very high....

I really hope they tone down the unlocks; I thought BF2142 was just right in terms of diversity and cool stuff in that you had two branches for each class

I do not like this "Oh, the guns, look at all the pretty guns we can earn!" with 20 unlockable weapons, etc.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="TerrorRizzing"] sigh not everything is a port to one platform or another. People act like they are developers just because theyve read a few internet blogs. There is such a thing as a multiplatform game!Rob_101

Well actually what im thinking is it will be like BF2 and BF2 Modern Combat on the PS2 and Xbox. They built the PC version for many years and then released it, later they released a very different version on the consoles.

I'm starting to think that BF3 on the PC is going to be a proper sequel. Dice had been building it up for awhile. It not using DX9 is bold as well. They did that with BF2 though when they didn't support DX8.

From reading everything it sounds like they have several versions of the engine designed on each platform. The PC version of BC2 used the Frostbite engine which was a console engine ported to the PC, it had other limitations but the reason they stated smaller maps and lower players was bandwidth. However since they probably just wanted to get it on the PC they didn't bother making the PC all that much different gameplay wise.

For BF3 they are probably working on all three versions, not just the PC version to be ported, but they are probably building it specific to each platform. The PC version will get all the bells and whistles and the console versions will get what they can handle. Think of Dragon Age Origins. The PC version had different gameplay mechanics. I'm thinking something like that is going to happen.

This is the best possible situation I can hope for now. But my hopes aren't very high....

Me neither. I'll wait and see, but it certainly isn't looking good. :( It will be a shame if BF3 turns out like BC2 in an effort by DICE to provide a similar experience across all platforms.

I hate the frostbite engine. This game will be ok at best.1kalli1

What's wrong with frostbite?

I think the outrage against Battlefield 3 was unnecessary, especially considering that we have basically no info on the game.

I love you DICE... *sniff sniff*

those are good news, but I'm afraid that EA have a put something really big in their mouth which they'll hardly be able to chew, and not to tell to swallow. not support Dx9 and XP. 75% of all gamers today use this Windows, and that's something that EA has probably forgotten, but anyway I can't wait that the game comes out.Nino_ze

whats the matter you guys already tired of bad company 2 ahahahahahaah, anyways they are dropping the ball hard by not making it DX9 compatible. Ask those Just Cause 2 devs how many PC units that game sold, fail.

I'm already satisfied with the graphics in Bad Company 2, so Battlefield 3 will look even more great!

[QUOTE="1kalli1"]I hate the frostbite engine. This game will be ok at best.Phoenix534

What's wrong with frostbite?

It's a console engine, the map and mod tools are oh so advanced that the people at DICE are having a hard time at using them (Yeah right) but anyways Battlefield 3 will run Frostbite 2 which is being developed as a PC engine (Around DX11 and 64 bit tech)

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[QUOTE="1kalli1"]I hate the frostbite engine. This game will be ok at best.ventnor

What's wrong with frostbite?

It's a console engine, the map and mod tools are oh so advanced that the people at DICE are having a hard time at using them (Yeah right) but anyways Battlefield 3 will run Frostbite 2 which is being developed as a PC engine (Around DX11 and 64 bit tech)