AMD Catalyst Omega; Details & Performance

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#1  Edited By Coseniath
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I am guessing a lot of people will want to grab and use the new drivers but most of us we need some information first.

Hardware Canucks review:

Tweak Town review (this one has XFire performance too)

Guru 3D review

TechpowerUp review

:)

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#2  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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Cool, and you don't need to buy another accessory to take advantage of it right?

Already more useful then gsync.

EDIT: 4K VSR only works for the R9 series currently.

Bleh, that's less cool.

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#3  Edited By Coseniath
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@JangoWuzHere said:
EDIT: 4K VSR only works for the R9 series currently.

Bleh, that's less cool.

Well as much I don't like restrictions either, you will mostly have hardware problems trying to play 4K with R7 265 (best non-R9 GPU) and lower, rather than software problems...

Hell I doubt even for R9 270/280 GPUs... They will sacrifice a lot of eye candy to enable VSR.

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#4 Masculus
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So the Downscaling thing is for the R9 series only? Talk about reinventing the wheel and charging premium for it.

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#5 kitty  Moderator
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It was possible for downscaling with 12.8, then AMD took it away. Did a bit of research. :P I guess after seeing that the 900 series made it into something bigger, they bring it back :P

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#6 Truth_Hurts_U
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Really hope they get Mantel out of beta soon.

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#7  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Really hope they get Mantel out of beta soon.

Wont happen with DX 12 coming out around the corner developers wont use it unless AMD promotes aka pays then to use it. Developers wont want to code for all API's from dx 11 and 12 along with Mantle they will choose the ones that reach every customer.

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#8  Edited By glez13
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@JangoWuzHere said:

Cool, and you don't need to buy another accessory to take advantage of it right?

Already more useful then gsync.

EDIT: 4K VSR only works for the R9 series currently.

Bleh, that's less cool.

Are you talking about Freesync? You do need a monitor with the proper display port version so basically you will need a new one.

To be more specific VSR only works in GCN 1.1 (290, 290X) and 1.2 (285). It doesn't work on GCN 1.0 R9's (270, 270X, 280, 280X)

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#9  Edited By chineolee
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Woohoo I'm seeing a one point increase in Unigine Heaven!

The benchmarks Coseniath mentions above show very small improvements, and for some games it's decreased! (e.g. Sniper Elite 3, Shadow of Mordor). Bioshock Infinite sees a decent fps improvement though (in the TweakTown benchmarks).

Given all the fanfare over this driver release, one might have hoped for more significant improvements, but I guess this was all about the new "features".

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#10 nutcrackr
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Small improvements, but welcome nonetheless.

Pity that VSR is only available on the top end cards, here is hoping they allow it for the older models soon.

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#11 glez13
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@nutcrackr said:

Small improvements, but welcome nonetheless.

Pity that VSR is only available on the top end cards, here is hoping they allow it for the older models soon.

It's the same as creating a custom resolution and then selecting it in-game. Not missing much.

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#12  Edited By cyloninside
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this new driver decreases performance in some games.... lol AMD.

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#13  Edited By topgunmv
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@04dcarraher said:

@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Really hope they get Mantel out of beta soon.

Wont happen with DX 12 coming out around the corner developers wont use it unless AMD promotes aka pays then to use it. Developers wont want to code for all API's from dx 11 and 12 along with Mantle they will choose the ones that reach every customer.

Most of the major game engines support mantle now, it's already established.

Going out of beta would just mean Nvidia would have the opportunity to use it if they wanted.

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#14  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@topgunmv said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Really hope they get Mantel out of beta soon.

Wont happen with DX 12 coming out around the corner developers wont use it unless AMD promotes aka pays then to use it. Developers wont want to code for all API's from dx 11 and 12 along with Mantle they will choose the ones that reach every customer.

Most of the major game engines support mantle now, it's already established.

Going out of beta would just mean Nvidia would have the opportunity to use it if they wanted.

Only three engines support Mantle.....

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#15 topgunmv
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@04dcarraher said:

@topgunmv said:

@04dcarraher said:

@Truth_Hurts_U said:

Really hope they get Mantel out of beta soon.

Wont happen with DX 12 coming out around the corner developers wont use it unless AMD promotes aka pays then to use it. Developers wont want to code for all API's from dx 11 and 12 along with Mantle they will choose the ones that reach every customer.

Most of the major game engines support mantle now, it's already established.

Going out of beta would just mean Nvidia would have the opportunity to use it if they wanted.

Only three engines support Mantle.....

Frostbyte, Cryengine, Unreal, and the Civilization engine.

I'd say the first three constitutes most of the major game engines.

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#16  Edited By Coseniath
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Well I think AMD decided to listen, so there will be VSR for R7 260 GPUs and up. (Not only R9 285 and R9 290(X) that exists today)

VSR is AMD's answer to Nvidia's DSR tech

Nvidia's DSR works on plenty of older GPUs, including the GeForce GTX 400, 500, and 600 series. Considering DSR also exposes smoothness and scaling multiplier controls, I'd say the Nvidia technology still has a leg up for the time being.

AMD says it plans to add support for Radeon R-series cards from the R7 260 up, but only in a "phase 2" driver due in January or February 2015. The company says adding support for those lower-end cards requires it to "explore a new implementation vs. what's in Omega," which will "take additional time"—hence the delay.

I hope they will add 4K VSR Modes to R9 290 and R9 290X too...

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#17 insane_metalist
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Not even worth for me to install.. 1 FPS more, 1 FPS less.. ahh.

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#18 top_lel
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why is there no support for windows 8?