100hz + Gaming

I'm looking to buy a 32" 1080p TV and was wanting to know if it is worth spending the extra cash to get 100hz as well. Does this improve gaming images? And will be important for the next gen as I want this TV to be as 'futureproof' as possible. I've heard problems with lag but the "game mode" that comes with most TVs are meant to prevent it, do they? And can I switch off 100hz if it is causing problems.

Also I will be using this for DVD's and possibly blu-ray in the future - does that make it worth while?

I'm looking to buy a 32" 1080p TV and was wanting to know if it is worth spending the extra cash to get 100hz as well. Does this improve gaming images? And will be important for the next gen as I want this TV to be as 'futureproof' as possible. I've heard problems with lag but the "game mode" that comes with most TVs are meant to prevent it, do they? And can I switch off 100hz if it is causing problems.

Also I will be using this for DVD's and possibly blu-ray in the future - does that make it worth while?

Saying movies don't benefit from 100Hz isn't true. I've got a Samsung 100Hz TV myself and when I watch Blu-ray movies I can see a HUGE difference when 100Hz is enabled. It is as if the picture gets a lot more clear and lots of the tiny little details, which Blu-ray gives you, gets much more clear when watching in 100Hz. Sure, it takes a movie or two to get used to the smoothness of the picture, but 100Hz is definately worth it!

Saying movies don't benefit from 100Hz isn't true. I've got a Samsung 100Hz TV myself and when I watch Blu-ray movies I can see a HUGE difference when 100Hz is enabled. It is as if the picture gets a lot more clear and lots of the tiny little details, which Blu-ray gives you, gets much more clear when watching in 100Hz. Sure, it takes a movie or two to get used to the smoothness of the picture, but 100Hz is definately worth it!

Khaine775

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Saying movies don't benefit from 100Hz isn't true. I've got a Samsung 100Hz TV myself and when I watch Blu-ray movies I can see a HUGE difference when 100Hz is enabled. It is as if the picture gets a lot more clear and lots of the tiny little details, which Blu-ray gives you, gets much more clear when watching in 100Hz. Sure, it takes a movie or two to get used to the smoothness of the picture, but 100Hz is definately worth it!

Marfoo

120/100Hz does give an improvement over 60/50Hz with 24/25Hz material.

120 is evenly dividedable by 24, giving you a nice even 5:5 pulldown. Same with 100Hz. 24 does not go into 60 evenly and gives you an uneven 3:2 pulldown creating judder. 120Hz elminates judder.

The "bastardizing" that you are refering to comes from AMP or motionflow technologies. Simply turn them off when watching a movie. Your movies still look very much like movies and NOT like soap operas or direct to video shot.

I am somewhat of a film nut and I do own a 120Hz TV. I bought it when when 120Hz first became available. If that technology would have ruined or changed the viewing experience of movies then I would never have bought it.

AMP and Motionflow really shine when watching sports or playing games. It gives you a very smooth almost 3D effect. It's great.

I would suggest visiting the AVS Forums to do research on all this stuff.

Actually 120hz (or 120 updates/sec) is not just a gimic. I used to think it was silly also until i did some research. At 24fps, 3:2 pulldown is still an issue. Next time your watching a movie at 24 fps and the movie pans ina particular direction and you get hitching, you'll understand what I mean. Tearing is not the only graphic anomaly that benefits from higher refresh. When a tv has 120hz, all video is displayed at 120hz, regardless of what the signal feeds, thus all moving pictures benefit directly. When your blu-ray player frame limits to 24 fps, yoru tv is still doing 120...it is simply repeating the necessary frames. All LCDs run at their native refresh at all times...120hz televisions are no exception.

They are even talking about bring 240hz displays within the next 5 years. I just hope they drop the hz. It represents an analog signal, and has no relevance with LCDs.

I correct my statement, 240hz tvs are on sale now. Just a bit on the expensive side.

[QUOTE="Marfoo"][QUOTE="Khaine775"]

Saying movies don't benefit from 100Hz isn't true. I've got a Samsung 100Hz TV myself and when I watch Blu-ray movies I can see a HUGE difference when 100Hz is enabled. It is as if the picture gets a lot more clear and lots of the tiny little details, which Blu-ray gives you, gets much more clear when watching in 100Hz. Sure, it takes a movie or two to get used to the smoothness of the picture, but 100Hz is definately worth it!

120/100Hz does give an improvement over 60/50Hz with 24/25Hz material.

120 is evenly dividedable by 24, giving you a nice even 5:5 pulldown. Same with 100Hz. 24 does not go into 60 evenly and gives you an uneven 3:2 pulldown creating judder. 120Hz elminates judder.

The "bastardizing" that you are refering to comes from AMP or motionflow technologies. Simply turn them off when watching a movie. Your movies still look very much like movies and NOT like soap operas or direct to video shot.

I am somewhat of a film nut and I do own a 120Hz TV. I bought it when when 120Hz first became available. If that technology would have ruined or changed the viewing experience of movies then I would never have bought it.

AMP and Motionflow really shine when watching sports or playing games. It gives you a very smooth almost 3D effect. It's great.

I would suggest visiting the AVS Forums to do research on all this stuff.

I think the big thing to focus on here is that 120hz is not a "feature" that you can turn on and off. If it is doing its job right, you should zero difference in still image quality between it and 60hz. Only when the image is moving should there be a difference, which the 120hz screen being more fluid. Modes like AMP and Motionflow are crap in my opinion and don't really help anything, just like the features on my tv that boost the contrast ratio to that of the sun. There is also a reduction of blur simply from the fact that their are twice as many screen updates than before.

If your one of those people that don't notice a difference between a blu-ray and a dvd playing on a 1080P tv, then your a person then wouldn't notice the overall increase in viewability that 120hz adds. As for myself, a person who has appceciated what V-sync has done for my games since its inception, am excited at the prospect of 120hz computer screens (yes they are out now) and beyond. And next time I fire up (insert random PS3,360 game) and start get tearing and jitter, I will appreciate 120hz screens then to.

Have a nice day!