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#1 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

Get an AMD 8150 instead of a 3570K, and then get a better graphics card?

#2 Posted by Lox_Cropek (3512 posts) -

Yeah, it would (assuming the PC is for gaming).

#3 Posted by djdarkforces (810 posts) -

thats what i did bought a pretty cheap 8120 mobo deal and used the money saved on a better gpu

#4 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

Yeah, it would (assuming the PC is for gaming).

Lox_Cropek

So, the 8150 is on par with a 3570K?

Because my friends know nothing about PCs (one just bought an Alienware), so it looks a lot cooler if I say "I have an overclocked 8 core", as opposed to "I have an overclocked i5." (I'm thinking of starting a custom computer business as well, and the general public jump at stuff like lots of RAM, lots of storage, lots of VRAM, lots of processor cores) I know that the i5s are equal to the i7s for gaming, but generally, my friends just have the reasoning "Why would Intel make it $100 more then?".

#5 Posted by JohnF111 (14047 posts) -
If you were to also get say a Corsair H60 then you could hit 5.0Ghz. It would definitely land you a better gaming rig than getting the expensive chip and a weaker card that's for sure.
#6 Posted by Lox_Cropek (3512 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

Yeah, it would (assuming the PC is for gaming).

Daanyal

So, the 8150 is on par with a 3570K?

Because my friends know nothing about PCs (one just bought an Alienware), so it looks a lot cooler if I say "I have an overclocked 8 core", as opposed to "I have an overclocked i5." (I'm thinking of starting a custom computer business as well, and the general public jump at stuff like lots of RAM, lots of storage, lots of VRAM, lots of processor cores) I know that the i5s are equal to the i7s for gaming, but generally, my friends just have the reasoning "Why would Intel make it $100 more then?".

No, the 3570k is noticeably faster than the 8150; but for gaming, worse CPU + better GPU > better CPU + worse GPU.

#7 Posted by General_X (9027 posts) -

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

Yeah, it would (assuming the PC is for gaming).

Lox_Cropek

So, the 8150 is on par with a 3570K?

Because my friends know nothing about PCs (one just bought an Alienware), so it looks a lot cooler if I say "I have an overclocked 8 core", as opposed to "I have an overclocked i5." (I'm thinking of starting a custom computer business as well, and the general public jump at stuff like lots of RAM, lots of storage, lots of VRAM, lots of processor cores) I know that the i5s are equal to the i7s for gaming, but generally, my friends just have the reasoning "Why would Intel make it $100 more then?".

No, the 3570k is noticeably faster than the 8150; but for gaming, worse CPU + better GPU > better CPU + worse GPU.

This. For gaming it is better to save money on the CPU and get a better GPU. It is very likely games will continue to improve with their multi-threaded coding so I believe the 8-Core AMD will be able to remain relevant for gaming for a while into the future. And either way the first upgrade you will probably have to get will be a new GPU, there's nothin that will change that.
#8 Posted by stevenjoywell (4 posts) -
yeah, bought a pretty cheap 8120 mobo deal and used the money saved on a better gpu
#9 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

So, the 8150 is on par with a 3570K?

Because my friends know nothing about PCs (one just bought an Alienware), so it looks a lot cooler if I say "I have an overclocked 8 core", as opposed to "I have an overclocked i5." (I'm thinking of starting a custom computer business as well, and the general public jump at stuff like lots of RAM, lots of storage, lots of VRAM, lots of processor cores) I know that the i5s are equal to the i7s for gaming, but generally, my friends just have the reasoning "Why would Intel make it $100 more then?".

General_X

No, the 3570k is noticeably faster than the 8150; but for gaming, worse CPU + better GPU > better CPU + worse GPU.

This. For gaming it is better to save money on the CPU and get a better GPU. It is very likely games will continue to improve with their multi-threaded coding so I believe the 8-Core AMD will be able to remain relevant for gaming for a while into the future. And either way the first upgrade you will probably have to get will be a new GPU, there's nothin that will change that.

I've got enough in the budget for a 3570K and a 670 2GB. Would it be smarter to get a 8150 and then get a 670 4GB?

#10 Posted by Lox_Cropek (3512 posts) -

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]No, the 3570k is noticeably faster than the 8150; but for gaming, worse CPU + better GPU > better CPU + worse GPU.

Daanyal

This. For gaming it is better to save money on the CPU and get a better GPU. It is very likely games will continue to improve with their multi-threaded coding so I believe the 8-Core AMD will be able to remain relevant for gaming for a while into the future. And either way the first upgrade you will probably have to get will be a new GPU, there's nothin that will change that.

I've got enough in the budget for a 3570K and a 670 2GB. Would it be smarter to get a 8150 and then get a 670 4GB?

No, get the 3570k + 670 2GB.

#11 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="General_X"]This. For gaming it is better to save money on the CPU and get a better GPU. It is very likely games will continue to improve with their multi-threaded coding so I believe the 8-Core AMD will be able to remain relevant for gaming for a while into the future. And either way the first upgrade you will probably have to get will be a new GPU, there's nothin that will change that.Lox_Cropek

I've got enough in the budget for a 3570K and a 670 2GB. Would it be smarter to get a 8150 and then get a 670 4GB?

No, get the 3570k + 670 2GB.

OK, then. Thanks for the advice.

#12 Posted by General_X (9027 posts) -

[QUOTE="Lox_Cropek"]

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]This. For gaming it is better to save money on the CPU and get a better GPU. It is very likely games will continue to improve with their multi-threaded coding so I believe the 8-Core AMD will be able to remain relevant for gaming for a while into the future. And either way the first upgrade you will probably have to get will be a new GPU, there's nothin that will change that.Daanyal

I've got enough in the budget for a 3570K and a 670 2GB. Would it be smarter to get a 8150 and then get a 670 4GB?

No, get the 3570k + 670 2GB.

Agreed, the difference between the 670 2GB and 670 4GB isn't that big, but the difference in power between a 8150 and the 3570k is massive. AMD builds should only be considered for relatively low budget builds, but it sounds like you have fairly high budget to work with.