Will the desktop ever go away ?

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#1 Posted by Xiumph (109 posts) -

I am one who thinks about the future and I'm afraid of it, I love my desktop and PC games and was scared that the desktop and pc games are going away...

Will this ever happen or am i just to deep into thought if you could give me some insight that would be cool.

#2 Posted by DanielDust (15402 posts) -
Yes, you or your kids will not see that day however.
#3 Posted by chrisrooR (9027 posts) -
As long as there's a market for it, no, it won't go away. I know I'd rather invest in upgrading my PC than I would buying a console.
#4 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23818 posts) -
You are going to be so old at that point why would you even care
#5 Posted by Xiumph (109 posts) -

You guys make good points I like seeing all your opinions (:

#6 Posted by trastamad03 (4859 posts) -
Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon.
#7 Posted by hiphops_savior (8039 posts) -
Everyday use, the writing was on the wall when laptops first became affordable. For work and gaming, not any time soon.
#8 Posted by gt350tsc (488 posts) -
Not until they put computers in are brains I suspect. O.o
#9 Posted by DanielDust (15402 posts) -
Not until they put computers in are brains I suspect. O.ogt350tsc
That's even further than "the cloud" taking over 99.9% of our desktops, laptops and other devices.
#10 Posted by wis3boi (31935 posts) -

No, because tablets and laptops can never have the latest greatest hardware and power and are not economical for all tasks. A 3d graphics designer or database admin isn't going to do their work on a tablet or netbook, and the top end gaming hardware will never reach mobile devices first. Things start large and get smaller, but the large stuff never gets thrown away. It's why super computers are still huge and will continue to be...they then eventually get the power of a super computer into a server for example, then into a desktop, then into a laptop, then a tablet/phone, and the cycle repeats.

#11 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -
Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon.trastamad03
you could say that again and again.
#12 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
Not go away, but become a lot more small, compact and integrated. I see in 10-15 years gaming video card in-built into the CPU or Motherboard, as well as any other card. Basically just a small motherboard with everything on it so no need for big cases etc.
#13 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (17265 posts) -

I am one who thinks about the future and I'm afraid of it, I love my desktop and PC games and was scared that the desktop and pc games are going away...

Will this ever happen or am i just to deep into thought if you could give me some insight that would be cool.

Xiumph

I'm sure it will someday. By that time, I doubt I'm going to care because the alternatives will be either just as powerful or good enough for me.

#14 Posted by James00715 (2484 posts) -

I think it's too early to tell. Cloud gaming can only work if internet connections get faster, latencies go down, and bandwidth becomes cheaper. If those problems can be overcome, you will only need a monitor connected to a modem to play all the latest games. I'm not sure that will happen. There could be some new innovation that makes desktops much cheaper than cloud gaming. That's the only reason cloud gaming has any appeal, that the cost to play the latest games would go down as you never need to buy new hardware. Otherwise, it's much better to just play games locally and have full control of your system.

#15 Posted by HyperWarlock (3295 posts) -

Yes, but there will be something better to replace it. It's like saying "I love my CRT monitor, I hope they never stop making them" but now we have a much improved version. It's the same with the desktop.

#16 Posted by Starshine_M2A2 (4098 posts) -

Who knows what they will evolve into but I think that desktop as we know them will disappear. It's difficult to imagine them being improved upon since we don't know any better at the moment but future generations will likely look at the desktop in the same way as we look at the Cray...bulky, excessive and unnecessary.

#17 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (17265 posts) -

Yes, but there will be something better to replace it. It's like saying "I love my CRT monitor, I hope they never stop making them" but now we have a much improved version. It's the same with the desktop.

HyperWarlock

I was glad to see the CRTs go. I hated fiddling around with refresh rates. Plus, I wasn't too happy lugging a 21" Diamondtron (Mitsubishi) up a couple flights of stairs to my den. That thing was heavy.

#18 Posted by Stream_Beta (352 posts) -

As long as there are Desktops there will be always be PC gaming, (well until the day we are all playing in holodecks). Now, if you talk with everyone that has to use a computer on a daily basis as their job title they will tell you that working on a desktop is A LOT better than working on a tablet or laptop. Only people who use computers casxually for surfing the web, writing documents, etc will say that desktops are not needed anymore and the will say "I don't understand why anyone uses a desktop anymore in our age".

The thing that has never really been brought up is the future of console gaming. On how consoles are going to die way before the desktop.

#19 Posted by trastamad03 (4859 posts) -
[QUOTE="trastamad03"]Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon.yellosnolvr
you could say that again and again.

Ok. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. Don't forget Desktops at work... those won't go away anytime soon. D:
#20 Posted by madrocketeer (2644 posts) -
At a consumer level, desktops are doomed. The general consumer PC market is moving unstoppably towards a mobile, tablet and notebook future. I go a computer store today and already desktops have completely disappeared, replaced by whole lines of notebooks and tablets. I expect the classic, modular desktop to be gone from the consumer market within 5 to 10 years time. But desktops and modular hardware that are the core of PC gaming will not disappear entirely for at least 20 to 30 years. They will simply become part of the more niche, more specialized performance market, catering mainly to professionals and server owners. This should keep PC gaming in its current incarnation around for years to come yet. Make no mistake, this mobile shift will have a severe effect on the future of PC gaming hardware. Hardware releases and innovation in the modular PC market will slow and narrow down, while manufacturers shift their resources and focus to integrated mobile hardware. This will make them harder to find, and we may well be reduced to ordering made-to-order hardware from the internet, feeding on scraps thrown to us by the niche performance market. So that, I think, is the future of PC gaming in terms of hardware. Software is another matter entirely, and on this I foresee turbulent times ahead, but PC gaming will not die out - it will simply be reborn. But that's not the topic of this thread.
#21 Posted by Gen007 (10955 posts) -

If they are its not gonna be happening anytime soon. I mean desktops arent just the best in terms of power but in terms of productivity. When it comes to getting real work done not just messing around on facebook and youtube then desktop is king and i don't see that changing anytime soon no matter how powerful tablets get. Besides think of it this way if desktops do go away it will only be becuase something better came along.

#22 Posted by PetJel (3724 posts) -
Eh eventually there will probably be some kind of cpu hub that controls everything in your home, but that's like 50-150 years away. It's too expensive and economically uninteresting to sell right now.
#23 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6218 posts) -
Maybe, maybe not. Probably won't go away for a loooong time, and will be replaced by something better. There's nothing really to worry about.
#24 Posted by kraken2109 (13201 posts) -
Probably when everything is done on massive servers and streamed.
#25 Posted by Miroku32 (8666 posts) -
If that happens it will take quite some time before desktop computers disappear.
#26 Posted by NamelessPlayer (7729 posts) -

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]Yes, but there will be something better to replace it. It's like saying "I love my CRT monitor, I hope they never stop making them" but now we have a much improved version. It's the same with the desktop.jun_aka_pekto

I was glad to see the CRTs go. I hated fiddling around with refresh rates. Plus, I wasn't too happy lugging a 21" Diamondtron (Mitsubishi) up a couple flights of stairs to my den. That thing was heavy.

I am most certainly NOT glad to see them go, only because none of the newer display technologies are an ideal replacement. -Native resolutions that always have to be rescaled to. CRTs can "multisync" to different resolutions more or less natively due to their analog nature, and this is important to someone who still plays a lot of old games. -Added input lag, especially on HDTVs compared to monitors. -Viewing angles tend to suck on LCDs. Even IPS and AFFS+ panels tend to have color shifts in the blacks that CRTs don't. -Plasma panels are still more susceptible to image retention and possibly even burn-in compared to CRTs. I'll keep using my Sony GDM-FW900 until it dies. A decade old, and still the best gaming monitor ever made. That's just sad considering how much better we should have it by now, after a whole decade's worth of tech advancement. And as for the original topic of desktops going away...I don't think they'll really go away entirely, but what we'll likely see is the enthusiast home computer becomes more of a home mainframe/server type of setup where you have this beefy, Crysis-crushing computer with a whole datacenter's worth of storage accessible through a number of thin clients in one's house, and an interface adapted to match each client. One of them could be a living room set-top box for all your music and movies. Another could be a dedicated simulator cockpit. Yet another would be a lot like today's keyboard-and-mouse-driven computers for more traditional genres like FPSs and RTSs, or productivity software from MS Office to Photoshop to 3ds max to Avid to Audacity to god knows what else. So why would these things mostly be owned by computer enthusiasts? The average person, by that point, will consider his smartphone his "personal computer", and it'll be quite capable of acting as a reasonably powerful desktop when docked and fed an external monitor, speakers/headphones, and input devices. Of course, due to the nature of technology, bulky, immobile tech that can consume all the energy and dissipate as much heat as it wants is going to be far more powerful than something that fits in your pocket, but the average person isn't going to care as long as he can browse the Web and play multimedia and casual games, and even today's smartphones can handle that along with basic Office suite tasks.

#27 Posted by danygo1996 (373 posts) -

Not until they put computers in are brains I suspect. O.ogt350tsc

THat day will be the day we stop being humans and start being hybrids with machines...

Or completley machines , like teh terminator

#28 Posted by guynamedbilly (12967 posts) -
No. It will always be around in some capacity because there will always be large companies to work at and they will always need something to work with. I guess it could go missing in homes eventually.
#29 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -

[QUOTE="gt350tsc"]Not until they put computers in are brains I suspect. O.odanygo1996

THat day will be the day we stop being humans and start being hybrids with machines...

Or completley machines , like teh terminator

It's already happened. A guy got an iPod Mini inserted into his arm.
#30 Posted by Masenkoe (4888 posts) -

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

Yes, but there will be something better to replace it. It's like saying "I love my CRT monitor, I hope they never stop making them" but now we have a much improved version. It's the same with the desktop.

jun_aka_pekto

I was glad to see the CRTs go. I hated fiddling around with refresh rates. Plus, I wasn't too happy lugging a 21" Diamondtron (Mitsubishi) up a couple flights of stairs to my den. That thing was heavy.

The death of the CRT era was great. Flatscreens are soo nice.

#31 Posted by ssvegeta555 (2281 posts) -

[QUOTE="gt350tsc"]Not until they put computers in are brains I suspect. O.odanygo1996

THat day will be the day we stop being humans and start being hybrids with machines...

Or completley machines , like teh terminator

We're getting there
#32 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="HyperWarlock"]

Yes, but there will be something better to replace it. It's like saying "I love my CRT monitor, I hope they never stop making them" but now we have a much improved version. It's the same with the desktop.

Masenkoe

I was glad to see the CRTs go. I hated fiddling around with refresh rates. Plus, I wasn't too happy lugging a 21" Diamondtron (Mitsubishi) up a couple flights of stairs to my den. That thing was heavy.

The death of the CRT era was great. Flatscreens are soo nice.

Too bad flat screens are still laggy.
#33 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I was glad to see the CRTs go. I hated fiddling around with refresh rates. Plus, I wasn't too happy lugging a 21" Diamondtron (Mitsubishi) up a couple flights of stairs to my den. That thing was heavy.

Zubinen

The death of the CRT era was great. Flatscreens are soo nice.

Too bad flat screens are still laggy.

Laggy? How old is your LCD lol.... I never get lag on mine.
#34 Posted by sleepingzzz (2263 posts) -

We are not that far away. There already tons of companies that use thin clients for their workstations. Basically a small box with a couple of ports for your keyboard, mouse and monitor. All it does is connect you to the server where you do all your work. As technology progresses one server will be able to support more and more users. Saves the companies tons of money.

We are not that far away. Once bandwidth improves I'm sure you'll find services that will allow you to connect to large server farms. You'll probably just need to pay a monthly fee. Higher price for better processing and graphic power. They just have to make it cheaper than buying a high priced gaming rig every couple of years. I can see it easily having the potential to be much stronger than anything you could build at home and much cheaper.

Tons of IT jobs have already been shipped overseas where they can pay an network engineer $3,000 a year (india, Phillipines, etc..) for the same work someone making $70K in the US. Cost to store the servers (land, taxes, buildings) is also much lower. Everything is heading that way especially with virtualized servers that can be managed any where in the world. It's a no brainer for companies to ship their IT department overseas.

Completely side tracked but, this is another reason why I doubt the US economy will ever recover to where it was in the past. It won't just be IT. Accounting, finance, etc.. can all be done overseas much cheaper. The population in these countries also blows away the US when it comes to schooling. Larger, smarter work force for a fraction of the cost.

#35 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -

We are not that far away. There already tons of companies that use thin clients for their workstations. Basically a small box with a couple of ports for your keyboard, mouse and monitor. All it does is connect you to the server where you do all your work. As technology progresses one server will be able to support more and more users. Saves the companies tons of money.

We are not that far away. Once bandwidth improves I'm sure you'll find services that will allow you to connect to large server farms. You'll probably just need to pay a monthly fee. Higher price for better processing and graphic power. They just have to make it cheaper than buying a high priced gaming rig every couple of years. I can see it easily having the potential to be much stronger than anything you could build at home and much cheaper.

Tons of IT jobs have already been shipped overseas where they can pay an network engineer $3,000 a year (india, Phillipines, etc..) for the same work someone making $70K in the US. Cost to store the servers (land, taxes, buildings) is also much lower. Everything is heading that way especially with virtualized servers that can be managed any where in the world. It's a no brainer for companies to ship their IT department overseas.

Completely side tracked but, this is another reason why I doubt the US economy will ever recover to where it was in the past. It won't just be IT. Accounting, finance, etc.. can all be done overseas much cheaper. The population in these countries also blows away the US when it comes to schooling. Larger, smarter work force for a fraction of the cost.

sleepingzzz

To add to your post:

http://www.windowsazure.com/en-us/

#36 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

The death of the CRT era was great. Flatscreens are soo nice.

FelipeInside
Too bad flat screens are still laggy.

Laggy? How old is your LCD lol.... I never get lag on mine.

Less than a year old actually and it has the least lag of any 120hz LCD monitor on the market right now AFAIK, LCDs just aren't at CRT level responsiveness yet.
#37 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Too bad flat screens are still laggy.Zubinen
Laggy? How old is your LCD lol.... I never get lag on mine.

Less than a year old actually and it has the least lag of any 120hz LCD monitor on the market right now AFAIK, LCDs just aren't at CRT level responsiveness yet.

Then I don't know what Lag you are speaking of sorry. Not ghosting is it?
#38 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -
[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Laggy? How old is your LCD lol.... I never get lag on mine.

Less than a year old actually and it has the least lag of any 120hz LCD monitor on the market right now AFAIK, LCDs just aren't at CRT level responsiveness yet.

Then I don't know what Lag you are speaking of sorry. Not ghosting is it?

Yes, here's a picture to illustrate:
#39 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Less than a year old actually and it has the least lag of any 120hz LCD monitor on the market right now AFAIK, LCDs just aren't at CRT level responsiveness yet.

Then I don't know what Lag you are speaking of sorry. Not ghosting is it?

Yes, here's a picture to illustrate:

Weird, I don't notice any ghosting on my current monitor. I do remember seeing ghosting on the first LCD I ever bought which was about 4 years ago.
#40 Posted by wis3boi (31935 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Then I don't know what Lag you are speaking of sorry. Not ghosting is it?FelipeInside
Yes, here's a picture to illustrate:

Weird, I don't notice any ghosting on my current monitor. I do remember seeing ghosting on the first LCD I ever bought which was about 4 years ago.

I don't see any of that on mine

#41 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Yes, here's a picture to illustrate:  wis3boi

Weird, I don't notice any ghosting on my current monitor. I do remember seeing ghosting on the first LCD I ever bought which was about 4 years ago.

I don't see any of that on mine

Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/
#42 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Weird, I don't notice any ghosting on my current monitor. I do remember seeing ghosting on the first LCD I ever bought which was about 4 years ago.Zubinen

I don't see any of that on mine

Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?
#43 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I don't see any of that on mine

FelipeInside
Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?

It's as close to average as it gets.
#44 Posted by wis3boi (31935 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I don't see any of that on mine

FelipeInside

Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?

got around 190ms

#45 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/wis3boi

I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?

got around 190ms

I guess you guys are just too slow to notice the blur, need to be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1ey4-ewyQ&hd=1&t=5s
#46 Posted by FelipeInside (26176 posts) -
[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?Zubinen

got around 190ms

I guess you guys are just too slow to notice the blur, need to be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1ey4-ewyQ&hd=1&t=5s

I've seen that before, that video is awesome.
#47 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23818 posts) -

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?Zubinen

got around 190ms

I guess you guys are just too slow to notice the blur, need to be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1ey4-ewyQ&hd=1&t=5s

bro can you even beat me at this
http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=fa_mass&ln=en
i only tried 5 times
63s
I am 37 on the leaderboard and did it while sleepy

#48 Posted by Zubinen (2557 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

got around 190ms

JigglyWiggly_

I guess you guys are just too slow to notice the blur, need to be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1ey4-ewyQ&hd=1&t=5s

bro can you even beat me at this
http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=fa_mass&ln=en
i only tried 5 times
63s
I am 37 on the leaderboard and did it while sleepy

Most important are the following: http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=pr&ln=en http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=ea&ln=en
#49 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23818 posts) -

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="Zubinen"] I guess you guys are just too slow to notice the blur, need to be more like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1ey4-ewyQ&hd=1&t=5sZubinen

bro can you even beat me at this
http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=fa_mass&ln=en
i only tried 5 times
63s
I am 37 on the leaderboard and did it while sleepy

Most important are the following: http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=pr&ln=en http://aim400kg.ru/train/?a=ea&ln=en


nop
raw reaction times on his site is bad because the box is so small and there is more to fps than just raw reaction times
the 2nd one just throws too much stuff at you and then it's more about decision making than clicking. Also I get really nauseaus playing that one

the mass click test I posted is better

#50 Posted by JigglyWiggly_ (23818 posts) -
[QUOTE="Zubinen"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="Zubinen"] Interesting, I'm just curious what are your results when taking this test?: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/

I got an average of 230ms. Is that good or bad?

It's as close to average as it gets.

Ye Though interstingly, the reaction times on that website have only gone up. In 2006, the average reaction time was 230ms, now it's 260ms.