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#-49 Posted by kraken2109 (12964 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NailedGR"]

Obviously he meant you weren't doing anything complicated.

Toxic-Seahorse

So what constitutes "doing something complicated" then?

I think they mean something that actually challenges the computer. Stuff that actually uses the CPU and GPU extensively.

More likely networking/servers etc
#-48 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -
[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] So what constitutes "doing something complicated" then?kraken2109

I think they mean something that actually challenges the computer. Stuff that actually uses the CPU and GPU extensively.

More likely networking/servers etc

Apple has a robust server setup actually.
#-47 Posted by clyde46 (43957 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="NailedGR"]

Obviously he meant you weren't doing anything complicated.

Toxic-Seahorse

So what constitutes "doing something complicated" then?

I think they mean something that actually challenges the computer. Stuff that actually uses the CPU and GPU extensively.

I video edit on mine, that stresses both....
#-46 Posted by Curlyfrii87 (14910 posts) -

My wife owns a macbook pro... and i hate it. It was unreasonably expensive, it's surprisingly slow, and unreliable for her job and my entertainment.

She likes the gestures, but i'm certain her next laptop will be windows! :x

As for myslef, i've always been a windows user!

#-45 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"] I think they mean something that actually challenges the computer. Stuff that actually uses the CPU and GPU extensively.

clyde46

More likely networking/servers etc

Apple has a robust server setup actually.

nah bro

#-44 Posted by msfan1289 (1069 posts) -

I video edit on my PC... seems to get the job done.

#-43 Posted by kraken2109 (12964 posts) -

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="kraken2109"] More likely networking/servers etcGummiRaccoon

Apple has a robust server setup actually.

nah bro

All I know is every network guy i've met hates apple :P
#-42 Posted by FaustArp (1038 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

The pain in the ass part of working on it is that I absolutely hate MS Office, and I can't use the Mac office stuff on my Gaming PC.  I guess I could try Open Office, but why bother when I can just work on my laptop.  :P  Lol.

jun_aka_pekto

MS makes MS Office for the Mac. I haven't seen a problem yet working with files between the Windows and Mac versions.

I don't like the MS Office programs.

I like the ones that Apple sells, they are called Pages and Numbers.  Much less bloated.

#-41 Posted by kraken2109 (12964 posts) -

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

The pain in the ass part of working on it is that I absolutely hate MS Office, and I can't use the Mac office stuff on my Gaming PC.  I guess I could try Open Office, but why bother when I can just work on my laptop.  :P  Lol.

FaustArp

MS makes MS Office for the Mac. I haven't seen a problem yet working with files between the Windows and Mac versions.

I don't like the MS Office programs.

I like the ones that Apple sells, they are called Pages and Numbers.  Much less bloated.

Don't like bloated software? Use notepad.
#-40 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

I have Windows; but I often have to deal with Mac's in my job (I work as an IT technician). I would say the basic use of a Mac is easier than Windows, but when it comes to problems, I have so far had quite a few more serious ones with Mac's than Windows. This is obviously just my experiences though.

_Matt_

I find that hard to belv...

I've spent a few years repairing mac and pc problems including repairing phones, tablets and hardware.

It's extremely rare for the mac software to mess up compared to windows, if anything fails on the mac its going to be the hardware which is normal. On the software side you'd have to actually try messing up your mac. Windows on the other hand could be messed up in the first week of use by the casual user.

For the normal user Macs are amazing, for the advance user they're a limitation.
 

Heck even the mac server is MUCH easier to setup than a windows server.

#-39 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

I have Windows; but I often have to deal with Mac's in my job (I work as an IT technician). I would say the basic use of a Mac is easier than Windows, but when it comes to problems, I have so far had quite a few more serious ones with Mac's than Windows. This is obviously just my experiences though.

zaku101

I find that hard to belv...

I've spent a few years repairing mac and pc problems including repairing phones, tablets and hardware.

It's extremely rare for the mac software to mess up compared to windows, if anything fails on the mac its going to be the hardware which is normal. On the software side you'd have to actually try messing up your mac. Windows on the other hand could be messed up in the first week of use by the casual user.

For the normal user Macs are amazing, for the advance user they're a limitation.
 

Heck even the mac server is MUCH easier to setup than a windows server.

As an advanced Mac user and admin, I can say safely that your whole post is wrong. 

We get equally as many desktop support tickets for macs and windows PCs, while we only have half as many Macs.  

The problems that macs have are much less straight forward to fix than PCs.  The macs are not easier for the users to use, they like them because they are trendy.

OSX 10.8 has a bug that will crash your application just by typing a few short characters.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with VNC and windows.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with powerPC apps without any documentation from apple, goodbye rosetta stone, we hardly knew you.

There was a recent printing bug that would crash your application any time you tried to change any printing options from word.

good luck getting macs to seemlessly use account tracking on a konica printer.

 

#-38 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

MS makes MS Office for the Mac. I haven't seen a problem yet working with files between the Windows and Mac versions.

kraken2109

I don't like the MS Office programs.

I like the ones that Apple sells, they are called Pages and Numbers.  Much less bloated.

Don't like bloated software? Use notepad.

vim or go home

#-37 Posted by Curlyfrii87 (14910 posts) -

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

I have Windows; but I often have to deal with Mac's in my job (I work as an IT technician). I would say the basic use of a Mac is easier than Windows, but when it comes to problems, I have so far had quite a few more serious ones with Mac's than Windows. This is obviously just my experiences though.

zaku101

I find that hard to belv...

I've spent a few years repairing mac and pc problems including repairing phones, tablets and hardware.

It's extremely rare for the mac software to mess up compared to windows, if anything fails on the mac its going to be the hardware which is normal. On the software side you'd have to actually try messing up your mac. Windows on the other hand could be messed up in the first week of use by the casual user.

For the normal user Macs are amazing, for the advance user they're a limitation.
 

Heck even the mac server is MUCH easier to setup than a windows server.

/ typical apple brainwashing 

>_>

#-36 Posted by overhead_drums (306 posts) -
Seems I've touched on a sore subject with some people. Only by asking who owns a mac. oops
#-35 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4090 posts) -

Seems I've touched on a sore subject with some people. Only by asking who owns a mac. oopsoverhead_drums
You should have known it would turn into this...

#-34 Posted by SystemsGO (1071 posts) -

Never owned a mac, never even used one. However, I'm sick of Windows. As of today, I just ran into a major issue. I wake up, leaving my computer on overnight as I usually do, wake up and voila, my Windows becomes completely and entirely unresponsive, even though I did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. 

Makes you very angry when this happens.  

#-33 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

Never owned a mac, never even used one. However, I'm sick of Windows. As of today, I just ran into a major issue. I wake up, leaving my computer on overnight as I usually do, wake up and voila, my Windows becomes completely and entirely unresponsive, even though I did absolutely nothing out of the ordinary. 

Makes you very angry when this happens.  

SystemsGO

Sounds like time for linux.

 

My linux box had been up for over a year until a storm knocked out my power

#-32 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="_Matt_"]

I have Windows; but I often have to deal with Mac's in my job (I work as an IT technician). I would say the basic use of a Mac is easier than Windows, but when it comes to problems, I have so far had quite a few more serious ones with Mac's than Windows. This is obviously just my experiences though.

GummiRaccoon

I find that hard to belv...

I've spent a few years repairing mac and pc problems including repairing phones, tablets and hardware.

It's extremely rare for the mac software to mess up compared to windows, if anything fails on the mac its going to be the hardware which is normal. On the software side you'd have to actually try messing up your mac. Windows on the other hand could be messed up in the first week of use by the casual user.

For the normal user Macs are amazing, for the advance user they're a limitation.
 

Heck even the mac server is MUCH easier to setup than a windows server.

As an advanced Mac user and admin, I can say safely that your whole post is wrong. 

We get equally as many desktop support tickets for macs and windows PCs, while we only have half as many Macs.  

The problems that macs have are much less straight forward to fix than PCs.  The macs are not easier for the users to use, they like them because they are trendy.

OSX 10.8 has a bug that will crash your application just by typing a few short characters.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with VNC and windows.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with powerPC apps without any documentation from apple, goodbye rosetta stone, we hardly knew you.

There was a recent printing bug that would crash your application any time you tried to change any printing options from word.

good luck getting macs to seemlessly use account tracking on a konica printer.

 

The environment I work in is IT team and staff uses Windows, all students use Macs. The only time we actually get a mac in is due to a dead HDD. I haven't experienced any of those issues but it's most likely due to the user being a simple user "Student" only web browsing and using M$ office.

When we gave the Students windows based PC we'd have them coming in with random viruses and software issues all the time. Some of them even uninstalled their drivers or used the wrong ones.

Heck people call us in because they don't know what to do when they didn't shut windows down right, safe mode or not?

So I still stand by my point that if the user is a casual/student user, the Mac is the way to go, much harder to break.

#-31 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] Apple has a robust server setup actually. kraken2109

nah bro

All I know is every network guy i've met hates apple :P

Trust me a Mac server is actually much easier to setup than a windows server.  If you download the app made for it "OS X Server" it's so easy your mom could do it. It basically does everything for you. Here's how it looks like once you run it.

Screen-Shot-2012-12-15-at-10.32.05-PM.pn

#-30 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

nah bro

zaku101

All I know is every network guy i've met hates apple :P

Trust me a Mac server is actually much easier to setup than a windows server. If you download the app made for it "OS X Server" it's so easy your mom could do it.

You clearly do not know what robust means.

#-29 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

I find that hard to belv...

I've spent a few years repairing mac and pc problems including repairing phones, tablets and hardware.

It's extremely rare for the mac software to mess up compared to windows, if anything fails on the mac its going to be the hardware which is normal. On the software side you'd have to actually try messing up your mac. Windows on the other hand could be messed up in the first week of use by the casual user.

For the normal user Macs are amazing, for the advance user they're a limitation.
 

Heck even the mac server is MUCH easier to setup than a windows server.

zaku101

As an advanced Mac user and admin, I can say safely that your whole post is wrong. 

We get equally as many desktop support tickets for macs and windows PCs, while we only have half as many Macs.  

The problems that macs have are much less straight forward to fix than PCs.  The macs are not easier for the users to use, they like them because they are trendy.

OSX 10.8 has a bug that will crash your application just by typing a few short characters.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with VNC and windows.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with powerPC apps without any documentation from apple, goodbye rosetta stone, we hardly knew you.

There was a recent printing bug that would crash your application any time you tried to change any printing options from word.

good luck getting macs to seemlessly use account tracking on a konica printer.

 

The environment I work in is IT team and staff uses Windows, all students use Macs. The only time we actually get a mac in is due to a dead HDD. I haven't experienced any of those issues but it's most likely due to the user being a simple user "Student" only web browsing and using M$ office.

When we gave the Students windows based PC we'd have them coming in with random viruses and software issues all the time. Some of them even uninstalled their drivers or used the wrong ones.

Heck people call us in because they don't know what to do when they didn't shut windows down right, safe mode or not?

So I still stand by my point that if the user is a casual/student user, the Mac is the way to go, much harder to break.

what is deep freeze?  what is administrator rights?

#-28 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

As an advanced Mac user and admin, I can say safely that your whole post is wrong. 

We get equally as many desktop support tickets for macs and windows PCs, while we only have half as many Macs.  

The problems that macs have are much less straight forward to fix than PCs.  The macs are not easier for the users to use, they like them because they are trendy.

OSX 10.8 has a bug that will crash your application just by typing a few short characters.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with VNC and windows.

OSX 10.7 and 10.8 broke compatibility with powerPC apps without any documentation from apple, goodbye rosetta stone, we hardly knew you.

There was a recent printing bug that would crash your application any time you tried to change any printing options from word.

good luck getting macs to seemlessly use account tracking on a konica printer.

 

GummiRaccoon

The environment I work in is IT team and staff uses Windows, all students use Macs. The only time we actually get a mac in is due to a dead HDD. I haven't experienced any of those issues but it's most likely due to the user being a simple user "Student" only web browsing and using M$ office.

When we gave the Students windows based PC we'd have them coming in with random viruses and software issues all the time. Some of them even uninstalled their drivers or used the wrong ones.

Heck people call us in because they don't know what to do when they didn't shut windows down right, safe mode or not?

So I still stand by my point that if the user is a casual/student user, the Mac is the way to go, much harder to break.

what is deep freeze?  what is administrator rights?

All students are given full control of their laptops they own it not us. We just supply them.

#-27 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

The environment I work in is IT team and staff uses Windows, all students use Macs. The only time we actually get a mac in is due to a dead HDD. I haven't experienced any of those issues but it's most likely due to the user being a simple user "Student" only web browsing and using M$ office.

When we gave the Students windows based PC we'd have them coming in with random viruses and software issues all the time. Some of them even uninstalled their drivers or used the wrong ones.

Heck people call us in because they don't know what to do when they didn't shut windows down right, safe mode or not?

So I still stand by my point that if the user is a casual/student user, the Mac is the way to go, much harder to break.

zaku101

what is deep freeze?  what is administrator rights?

All students are given full control of their laptops they own it not us. We just supply them.

why would you do that

#-26 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] All I know is every network guy i've met hates apple :PGummiRaccoon

Trust me a Mac server is actually much easier to setup than a windows server. If you download the app made for it "OS X Server" it's so easy your mom could do it.

You clearly do not know what robust means.

Yeah its called me not having to install a million extra addons just to setup an exchange server...

The Mac server has time machine built into it making it much more robust in case of data failure of any kind, it backs up data and even allows you to recover at many different dates and times. This isn't a crappy windows restore it's a whole OS restore. Heck all current Mac OS have the server built into them. Meaning hey do you have Mountain lion installed on your mac? If yes you've already got the mountain lion server built in.

Also the built in Mac OS deployment server option makes windows deployment server look   ancient.

#-25 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

what is deep freeze?  what is administrator rights?

GummiRaccoon

All students are given full control of their laptops they own it not us. We just supply them.

why would you do that

Why would you pay for something you can't install anything on? The school makes extra money off of students actually getting them through us.

However the student lab computers do have deep freeze on them.

#-24 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Trust me a Mac server is actually much easier to setup than a windows server. If you download the app made for it "OS X Server" it's so easy your mom could do it.

zaku101

You clearly do not know what robust means.

Yeah its called me not having to install a million extra addons just to setup an exchange server...

The Mac server has time machine built into it making it much more robust in case of data failure of any kind, it backs up data and even allows you to recover at many different dates and times. This isn't a crappy windows restore it's a whole OS restore. Heck all current Mac OS have the server built into them. Meaning hey do you have Mountain lion installed on your mac? If yes you've already got the mountain lion server built in.

Also the built in Mac OS deployment server option makes windows deployment server look   ancient.

what is pxe

#-23 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

You clearly do not know what robust means.

GummiRaccoon

Yeah its called me not having to install a million extra addons just to setup an exchange server...

The Mac server has time machine built into it making it much more robust in case of data failure of any kind, it backs up data and even allows you to recover at many different dates and times. This isn't a crappy windows restore it's a whole OS restore. Heck all current Mac OS have the server built into them. Meaning hey do you have Mountain lion installed on your mac? If yes you've already got the mountain lion server built in.

Also the built in Mac OS deployment server option makes windows deployment server look   ancient.

what is pxe

What is pressing the option key on any mac and then being given a list of images to install or use as a live os without even needing to PXE boot to get a list?

The Mac can even time machine recover Via Network in a matter of minutes.

#-22 Posted by Amster_G (4289 posts) -

I've had an iMac and a MacBook Pro. I sold the Pro a few months back for cash. I really like Apple computers. My MacBook was always there when my PC wasn't (constantly RMAing). Apple computers in my opinion are way more reliable. I mean, when dealing with custom build rigs it's a different story I guess. You'll either receive a dead part or something throughout the bulding process doesn't pan out as planned. Macs are just always good.

#-21 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

Yeah its called me not having to install a million extra addons just to setup an exchange server...

The Mac server has time machine built into it making it much more robust in case of data failure of any kind, it backs up data and even allows you to recover at many different dates and times. This isn't a crappy windows restore it's a whole OS restore. Heck all current Mac OS have the server built into them. Meaning hey do you have Mountain lion installed on your mac? If yes you've already got the mountain lion server built in.

Also the built in Mac OS deployment server option makes windows deployment server look   ancient.

zaku101

what is pxe

What is pressing the option key on any mac and then being given a list of images to install or use as a live os without even needing to PXE boot to get a list?

The Mac can even time machine recover Via Network in a matter of minutes.

"without even needing to pxe boot"

Is that hard for you or something?

#-20 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

what is pxe

GummiRaccoon

What is pressing the option key on any mac and then being given a list of images to install or use as a live os without even needing to PXE boot to get a list?

The Mac can even time machine recover Via Network in a matter of minutes.

"without even needing to pxe boot"

Is that hard for you or something?

Just saying it's nice being able to just press one key at boot then getting a list of bootable images in under a second from the mac server. Its not that it's hard, its just outdated, slower and an extra step not needed.

#-19 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="zaku101"]

What is pressing the option key on any mac and then being given a list of images to install or use as a live os without even needing to PXE boot to get a list?

The Mac can even time machine recover Via Network in a matter of minutes.

zaku101

"without even needing to pxe boot"

Is that hard for you or something?

Just saying it's nice being able to just press one key at boot then getting a list of bootable images in under a second from the mac server. Its not that it's hard, its just outdated, slower and an extra step not needed.

You are implying that to pxe boot, it takes more than one key.  this is not the case.

#-18 Posted by msfan1289 (1069 posts) -

after reading the windows vs macs, just shows you how much people really know what a hardware problem is and a software problem is, and blame it on the windows os which is just stupid.

 

like my dads PC the power supply went bad and corrupted the HDD data, so i got a new power supply for it and re-installed windows and everything up and running again. my dads co worker who is a mac fanboy, told him to get a mac because "you will never have this kind of problems" and i told my dad that he doesn't know anything about computers, hardware will fail on any PC ( yes macs are PCs) no matter if its a mac PC, custom built PC, or pre built PC.

#-17 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13593 posts) -

after reading the windows vs macs, just shows you how much people really know what a hardware problem is and a software problem is, and blame it on the windows os which is just stupid.

 

like my dads PC the power supply went bad and corrupted the HDD data, so i got a new power supply for it and re-installed windows and everything up and running again. my dads co worker who is a mac fanboy, told him to get a mac because "you will never have this kind of problems" and i told my dad that he doesn't know anything about computers, hardware will fail on any PC ( yes macs are PCs) no matter if its a mac PC, custom built PC, or pre built PC.

msfan1289

Imacs have a higher hardware failure rate because all their stuff is crammed into a tiny poorly cooled space.  

#-16 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2569 posts) -

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

#-15 Posted by kraken2109 (12964 posts) -

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

_SKatEDiRt_
This is the main problem with macs, 90% of the users know nothing.
#-14 Posted by NailedGR (997 posts) -

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

_SKatEDiRt_

That's funny because the vast majority of software developers I know use some distro of linux followed by osx, with windows 7 being a distant 3rd.

#-13 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2569 posts) -

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

NailedGR

That's funny because the vast majority of software developers I know use some distro of linux followed by osx, with windows 7 being a distant 3rd.

Shes just some rich girl that had some to drink and is talking out her ***. so dont worry, your more knowledgable haha

#-12 Posted by skipper847 (3068 posts) -

Big Mac and fries are better.

#-11 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4090 posts) -
[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

kraken2109
This is the main problem with macs, 90% of the users know nothing.

That's their userbase though. A Mac is great for people who don't know anything about computers.
#-10 Posted by NailedGR (997 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

Toxic-Seahorse

This is the main problem with macs, 90% of the users know nothing.

That's their userbase though. A Mac is great for people who don't know anything about computers.

I'd argue that a tablet would serve that user group better.

#-9 Posted by way2funny (4569 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

I had my friends girlfriend try and tell me that macs are better lastnight when i was at their house.( she said theyre better because its like a video game and windows is for developers only.) i LOLed and SMHed

Toxic-Seahorse

This is the main problem with macs, 90% of the users know nothing.

That's their userbase though. A Mac is great for people who don't know anything about computers.

Not completely true, I know a lot of developers that roll with macs, even more so macbook airs with linux on them

#-8 Posted by PernicioEnigma (5271 posts) -
Using Macs have always caused me headaches. Mainly in the form of me needing to upgrade to a new version of OSX to install some software (which often have versions which can run on XP, yet I need to upgrade OSX which was only a few years old...) or some software I want doesn't support OSX or is buggy.
#-7 Posted by overhead_drums (306 posts) -
Wow, this kinda went off topic. I was just wondering who actually owned a mac and their opinion based on ownership and what they use it for. For me, syncing up iCal with everyone in the office and with my phone is a lifesaver and it mega easy. Also you can't get logic on a pc which is a deal breaker. That along with NI maschine makes the mac perfect for music workshops. EDIT: running music workshops is my job and the MacBooks are perfect, all the tutors I work with are on the same.
#-6 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2569 posts) -

Wow, this kinda went off topic. I was just wondering who actually owned a mac and their opinion based on ownership and what they use it for. For me, syncing up iCal with everyone in the office and with my phone is a lifesaver and it mega easy. Also you can't get logic on a pc which is a deal breaker. That along with NI maschine makes the mac perfect for music workshops.overhead_drums

you can get logic on pc. a pc is way more logical

#-5 Posted by overhead_drums (306 posts) -

[QUOTE="overhead_drums"]Wow, this kinda went off topic. I was just wondering who actually owned a mac and their opinion based on ownership and what they use it for. For me, syncing up iCal with everyone in the office and with my phone is a lifesaver and it mega easy. Also you can't get logic on a pc which is a deal breaker. That along with NI maschine makes the mac perfect for music workshops._SKatEDiRt_

you can get logic on pc. a pc is way more logical

Windows cannot run logic
#-4 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2569 posts) -

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="overhead_drums"]Wow, this kinda went off topic. I was just wondering who actually owned a mac and their opinion based on ownership and what they use it for. For me, syncing up iCal with everyone in the office and with my phone is a lifesaver and it mega easy. Also you can't get logic on a pc which is a deal breaker. That along with NI maschine makes the mac perfect for music workshops.overhead_drums

you can get logic on pc. a pc is way more logical

Windows cannot run logic

A joke if you will

#-3 Posted by Toxic-Seahorse (4090 posts) -

[QUOTE="Toxic-Seahorse"][QUOTE="kraken2109"] This is the main problem with macs, 90% of the users know nothing.way2funny

That's their userbase though. A Mac is great for people who don't know anything about computers.

Not completely true, I know a lot of developers that roll with macs, even more so macbook airs with linux on them

Oh definitely. I didn't mean that ONLY those who know nothing about computers use macs, I simply meant that they are great for those who do know nothing about computers.
#-2 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

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"without even needing to pxe boot"

Is that hard for you or something?

GummiRaccoon

Just saying it's nice being able to just press one key at boot then getting a list of bootable images in under a second from the mac server. Its not that it's hard, its just outdated, slower and an extra step not needed.

You are implying that to pxe boot, it takes more than one key.  this is not the case.

Sure you can set pxe to boot without any key presses, however pxe boot will neve be faster than the Mac servers image deployment. The mac skips the need  to pxe boot just to get a list of ISO to install. This is what I am really implying.  The second you turn on the mac it can pull up a list of ISOs from your sever to deploy, there is no need to pxe boot just to wait to get a list of ISOs. 

#-1 Posted by zaku101 (4323 posts) -

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after reading the windows vs macs, just shows you how much people really know what a hardware problem is and a software problem is, and blame it on the windows os which is just stupid.

 

like my dads PC the power supply went bad and corrupted the HDD data, so i got a new power supply for it and re-installed windows and everything up and running again. my dads co worker who is a mac fanboy, told him to get a mac because "you will never have this kind of problems" and i told my dad that he doesn't know anything about computers, hardware will fail on any PC ( yes macs are PCs) no matter if its a mac PC, custom built PC, or pre built PC.

GummiRaccoon

Imacs have a higher hardware failure rate because all their stuff is crammed into a tiny poorly cooled space.  

That's false, they only have hardware problems because thats the only real problem theyre actually know to have, it's almost never software. This is normal hardware over time will fail but Saying Macs fail more than Windows based laptops is a joke, your comparing a company that only makes a few set of laptops to like dell which makes many different lines of laptops and doesn't take the time to make sure everythings perfect.

#0 Posted by overhead_drums (306 posts) -
100th post! Wow, thats a lot of posts in this topic, cam i change the title of it? Can we talk about something that will cause less disagreements? Penguins or pelicans?