Watch dogs confirmed to use all 8 threads.

#1 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

There is a guy on steam with 3570k and 780 (high settings) and he has dips into 30's especially while driving, but also while walking around the city. While a guy with 3770k and 760 can keep steady 60 on high settings. Glad I went with the 4770k.

#2 Posted by Coseniath (1311 posts) -

Well since new consoles and some PC's can use 8 threads, I think that most of the games that will come out, will supporting 8threads anyway...

#3 Posted by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@Coseniath said:

Well since new consoles and some PC's can use 8 threads, I think that most of the games that will come out, will supporting 8threads anyway...

True, I think it will be the same with Shadow of Mordor. Since it also recommends 3770.

#4 Posted by Arthas045 (5508 posts) -

I am unsure if this will become the normal trend, I assume so in the end.

#5 Posted by Ribstaylor1 (1441 posts) -

Glad I went with the 3770k. Games are only going to get better at doing this as developers fine tune their engines.

#6 Posted by Coseniath (1311 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@Coseniath said:

Well since new consoles and some PC's can use 8 threads, I think that most of the games that will come out, will supporting 8threads anyway...

True, I think it will be the same with Shadow of Mordor. Since it also recommends 3770.

This is good news since I got 4770K too :P.

#7 Posted by Coseniath (1311 posts) -
@ribstaylor1 said:

Glad I went with the 3770k. Games are only going to get better at doing this as developers fine tune their engines.

Well actually they need to tune their engines for the consoles so, since their games are already targeted to be 8-threaded optimised, why to change it?

It's a win-win for them and for us.

#8 Edited by kunal_anand50 (86 posts) -

Ubi optimization at its finest.

#9 Posted by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

#10 Posted by kunal_anand50 (86 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I don't think this is just due to the 4 core cpu. Ubisoft has had a history of releasing unoptimized games on pc. Requiring a 9000+ mark score cpu for ultra regardless of the gpu is pretty pathetic.

#11 Edited by kraken2109 (13212 posts) -

Source?

#12 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@kraken2109 said:

Source?

I dont know if you can link it. But it's on steam watch dogs discussion, topic "Playing right now"

#13 Edited by Nick3306 (2632 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

#14 Posted by kunal_anand50 (86 posts) -

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Exactly.

#15 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

#16 Posted by Klunt_Bumskrint (4428 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@kraken2109 said:

Source?

I dont know if you can link it. But it's on steam watch dogs discussion, topic "Playing right now"

Surely then he's got a hacked/pirate copy. Posting on the steam forums doesn't seems the most intelligent thing to do....

#17 Posted by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@klunt_bumskrint said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kraken2109 said:

Source?

I dont know if you can link it. But it's on steam watch dogs discussion, topic "Playing right now"

Surely then he's got a hacked/pirate copy. Posting on the steam forums doesn't seems the most intelligent thing to do....

This guy has physical copy and apparently he got it early. But yeah, there are pirates out there....

#18 Posted by kraken2109 (13212 posts) -
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Looks pretty nice

#19 Edited by Xeogua (1542 posts) -

Fuck, I've got a 3570k and 7950. I'll be lucky to run it on high.

#20 Edited by kraken2109 (13212 posts) -

Interesting how the game says 3GB VRAM required for Ultra textures. To be honest I'm taking most of this with a grain of salt and i'll wait for proper benchmarks.

#21 Posted by Coseniath (1311 posts) -

Guyz, 4670K is more powerful than a lot 8-threaded CPUs and especially the jaguar based console CPUs, since it has far superior IPS and some times more Ghz.

If HT is fully optimised for gaming like it is for video editing/rendering etc, you would see a 20-30% more performance on a 4cwith HT than a 4c.

The game is not out there yet so this might be a bug or an unoptimised scenario same thing that happened to BF4 with the FX63xx where it had half performance of FX43xx...

So we need to wait :)

#22 Edited by Gogoplexiorayo2 (171 posts) -

Wow im in trouble. I only have i5 4670 and 780 ti. Maybe i should have dropped the 1 tb ssd and gone for a 500 gb ssd 1tb harddrive and i7 4770. Looks like i will have a lot of problems with next gen games :(

#23 Edited by kraken2109 (13212 posts) -
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It looks very inconsistent, a lot of places don't actually look much better than GTA4...

#24 Edited by 04dcarraher (20454 posts) -

The fact that game isnt out and that its totally based some random screenshot that shows very inconsistent usage of whatever, Ill just wait on some real reviews. And to point out that i5's and i7's total processing abilities are nearly the same. so I highly doubt a i5 will perform half as good as an i7.

#25 Edited by 04dcarraher (20454 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

its fake the game isnt even out

#26 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

The fact that game isnt out and that its totally based some random screenshot that shows very inconsistent usage, Ill just wait on some real reviews. And to point out that i5's and i7's total processing abilities are nearly the same. so I highly doubt a i5 will perform half as good as an i7.

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

its fake the game isnt even out

Ok, but I should check steam there are guys with screenshots and everything.

#27 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

I don't like to baby sit people so here are just some screen, go check them yourself on watch dogs discussion.

#28 Edited by Nick3306 (2632 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

Easy, poor optimization. I'm aware that all 8 threads are used, but there is a difference between utilizing threads and poorly optimizing the game to where it will only run decently on those number of threads.

#29 Posted by 04dcarraher (20454 posts) -

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

Easy, poor optimization. I'm aware that all 8 threads are used, but there is a difference between utilizing threads and poorly optimizing the game to where it will only run decently on those number of threads.

Yep, Look at the screen shot at least three of the threads have inconsistent usage and spike wildly

#30 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

Easy, poor optimization. I'm aware that all 8 threads are used, but there is a difference between utilizing threads and poorly optimizing the game to where it will only run decently on those number of threads.

Yep, Look at the screen shot at least three of the threads have inconsistent usage and spike wildly

Depends what situation the game is on I guess. As the guy with 3570k said it's mainly during driving and walking around the city. I guess the wind also eats a lot of CPU, along with the wind effects like wind blowing soda cans on the streets etc. Sorry my english sucks, at least im trying to explain lol. Not to mention the standards of open world, like a lot off people on the street. Apparently watch dogs isnt as dead as gta 5.

#31 Edited by 04dcarraher (20454 posts) -

Its a UBI game their cpu coding is hit or miss and is there going to be day one patch to fix issues. Either couple things are happens, poor cpu usage along all cores, the amount of effects they threw in because they could. There can be a single option that needs to be turned off or down to fix the issue. Fact is that an i5 should not see half the fps then a i7, its a coding issue not just because the game uses 8 threads.

#32 Edited by Englandfc1966 (2206 posts) -

Makes me wish I went with a 4770k instead of a 4670k.......

#33 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

Its a UBI game their cpu coding is hit or miss and is there going to be day one patch to fix issues. Either couple things are happens, poor cpu usage along all cores, the amount of effects they threw in because they could. There can be a single option that needs to be turned off or down to fix the issue. Fact is that an i5 should not see half the fps then a i7, its a coding issue not just because the game uses 8 threads.

Crysis 3 was already one of those game that gave about 15 fps boost with HT on. And It didn't even utilize it fully. HT can give 30% boost depending on the situation.

http://www.techbuyersguru.com/ochtgaming2.php

http://maldotex.blogspot.fi/2013/02/hyperthreading-and-real-custom-graphics.html

#34 Posted by Chatch09 (644 posts) -

This....has me worried lol. My (1st) build is coming up on the 1st of the month when I get paid but I was going with a 4670k ($200) and R9 280x ($300), now im wondering if I should get the 4770k for $300 and a $200 GPU...I've read the comments and everyone is saying optimization is the issue but, well, I just dont know lol. Will most games from here on need either 8 cores or HT? This is pretty much exactly why I've always been so skeptical to get into gaming on PC lol, but I do need one for upcoming projects for school and personal endeavors.

#35 Edited by glez13 (9016 posts) -

@04dcarraher said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

its fake the game isnt even out

Apparently it's all over torrent sites right now.

#36 Edited by PredatorRules (8784 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

There is a guy on steam with 3570k and 780 (high settings) and he has dips into 30's especially while driving, but also while walking around the city. While a guy with 3770k and 760 can keep steady 60 on high settings. Glad I went with the 4770k.

And that's happening with almost all bad ports?

#37 Posted by Chatch09 (644 posts) -

@glez13 said:

@04dcarraher said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@Nick3306 said:

@GabranthXIII said:

@kunal_anand50 said:

Ubi optimization at its finest.

Optimization? Times change, 4 cores just doesnt cut it anymore.

I have yet to find a game my 4670k couldnt handle easily, watch dogs is looking to be the first one and its honestly not surprising since it's a ubisoft game. I highly doubt it's because 4 cores isnt enough these days.

Well explain to me 3770k+760 steady 60 fps on high, 3570k+780 dips to 30s on high settings. And take a look at the graphs I posted, all threads are used.

its fake the game isnt even out

Apparently it's all over torrent sites right now.

Hey, the game is all about hacking right? Trolololol Ubisoft

#38 Posted by Klunt_Bumskrint (4428 posts) -

I've been telling people for over a year to go for the i7 over the i5 because of this very situation. I was right!

Dammit

I TOLD YOU ALLLLLL!

*Ahem*

#40 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7619 posts) -
@klunt_bumskrint said:

I've been telling people for over a year to go for the i7 over the i5 because of this very situation. I was right!

Dammit

I TOLD YOU ALLLLLL!

*Ahem*

Brb fishtailing in a 6 speed to microcenter.

#41 Edited by PredatorRules (8784 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

And this statement got to do anything with cores usage?

#42 Edited by GabranthXIII (994 posts) -

@PredatorRules said:

And this statement got to do anything with cores usage?

People happen to play the game and monitor while doing so... so I would say... yes?

#43 Edited by PredatorRules (8784 posts) -

@GabranthXIII said:

@PredatorRules said:

People happen to play the game and monitor while doing so... so I would say... yes?

How does it got anything to do with the fact that it may occur on any bad port? it's a well known fact that when it comes to bad port more horsepower is better.

Also there's no actual proof that it was taken during Watch Dogs gameplay, it may be some heavy duty program.

#44 Edited by Coseniath (1311 posts) -

For the first time, I read that having a game optimised to more threads is bad optimisation.

This issue here with the 4670K and the 780 was solved by updating the latest nvidia drivers.

Also you may expect some bugs at the begining like Battlefield 4's CPU issue in the begining.

#45 Edited by Old_Gooseberry (3957 posts) -

i'd wait for real benchmarks instead of random rumours by random people. I bet a 4 core or 4 thread cpu can play this game easy. A 4 thread cpu thats clocked 3.5ghz-4.5ghz is gonna smoke this game compared to a console which are running around 1.6-2ghz.

#46 Posted by awax187187 (234 posts) -

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@kraken2109 said:
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It looks very inconsistent, a lot of places don't actually look much better than GTA4...

Yea it doesn't look like the E3 videos

#47 Edited by FelipeInside (26199 posts) -

1. The game isn't out for another 3 days. How are these videos available?

#48 Edited by Alienware_fan (1514 posts) -

Glad I bought an I7 instead of listening to the fools here.

#49 Posted by Xeogua (1542 posts) -

@FelipeInside: Some people got their copies early and somebody decided releasing it was a good idea.

#50 Posted by airshocker (30930 posts) -

I highly doubt an I5 is going to chug with this game.