Tomb Raider 2013 out now!

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#1 Posted by nutcrackr (12600 posts) -

Game is out now for some. What do you guys think?

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I like it so far, Lara's animations are a step above her previous games. The atmosphere is also much better, but we probably knew that would be the case. Camilla Luddington is doing a fairly good job as Lara so far. Only just got the bow and the axe. Lot of QTEs early on, not a fan of those but I can feel it has started to open up. TressFX hair is is a little freaky but mostly good!

I'll post some screenshots later, feel free to post yours. Thumbnails might be preferred if you are posting a lot :)

#2 Posted by Elann2008 (32976 posts) -

Animations are "just" a step above? It's a MAJOR step above. They went from old-gen Lara to the new TR Lara. I think Camilla is passable. She's not bad, but she isn't great either.  I'd rather have the actress that did Leah's voice in Diablo 3 do Lara.  Leah's voice actress actually has a great voice but Diablo 3 had bad writing.

#3 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

Animations are "just" a step above? It's a MAJOR step above. They went from old-gen Lara to the new TR Lara. I think Camilla is passable. She's not bad, but she isn't great either.

Elann2008

From small footage alone her voice and ability is very inconsistent and grating at times. Can't imagine what a full game would be like

#4 Posted by Elann2008 (32976 posts) -

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Animations are "just" a step above? It's a MAJOR step above. They went from old-gen Lara to the new TR Lara. I think Camilla is passable. She's not bad, but she isn't great either.

seanmcloughlin

From small footage alone her voice and ability is very inconsistent and grating at times. Can't imagine what a full game would be like

That was exactly my impression of it. Especially when Lara was falling.. or "hurt." It just didn't mesh well with Lara as a character.
#5 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="Elann2008"]

Animations are "just" a step above? It's a MAJOR step above. They went from old-gen Lara to the new TR Lara. I think Camilla is passable. She's not bad, but she isn't great either.

Elann2008

From small footage alone her voice and ability is very inconsistent and grating at times. Can't imagine what a full game would be like

That was exactly my impression of it. Especially when Lara was falling.. or "hurt." It just didn't mesh well with Lara as a character.

Her delivery of some of the voice over stuff is very hit and miss and it doesn't help when you have a British woman who gained a more American accent forcing a British accent again.

I know she's technically British but her normal voice doesn't sound very British anymore 

#6 Posted by with_teeth26 (6161 posts) -

I just unlocked the game, I'll report back after playing for a bit. 

#7 Posted by nikeswoosh (899 posts) -
How are u guys playing already ive got it through steam and still not unlocked didnt buy it through them but came wit my new amd gpu and they used steam???
#8 Posted by Miroku32 (8666 posts) -

5 more hours for unlock :cry:

Anyways, I'm not going to play this at midnight. Gonna wait till tomorrow.

#9 Posted by with_teeth26 (6161 posts) -

How are u guys playing already ive got it through steam and still not unlocked didnt buy it through them but came wit my new amd gpu and they used steam???nikeswoosh

The game has already unlocked in Austraila and Japan. 

I played for 20 minutes maybe but was getting artifacting like crazy after exiting the cave and needed to quit the game, I'm installing the latest Nvidia beta drivers to see if that fixes the issue. 

I initially tried running it on ultimate with 4xSMAA and tressfx and it ran ok at first but when Lara was crawling through the water and her head filled the screen my FPS tanked to like 2 so I had to turn it off. Looks kinda silly anyways. 

Now running ultimate with 2xSMAA and normal hair, get 45-60fps which isn't great but isn't bad either. The controls seem fine so far but its too soon to comment on the gameplay beyond that with such limited experience. 

#10 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

How are u guys playing already ive got it through steam and still not unlocked didnt buy it through them but came wit my new amd gpu and they used steam???nikeswoosh

You could just change your IP to make it seem like you're in AUS or JAP and unlock the game early. Then play like normal when it does unlock

#11 Posted by not_wanted (1977 posts) -

Animations are "just" a step above? It's a MAJOR step above. They went from old-gen Lara to the new TR Lara. I think Camilla is passable. She's not bad, but she isn't great either.  I'd rather have the actress that did Leah's voice in Diablo 3 do Lara.  Leah's voice actress actually has a great voice but Diablo 3 had bad writing.

Elann2008

Passable? lol She has to look like Lara too, don't really care about her voice.:P

Here's a pic of Lara...

Camilla-Luddington-Feet-691698.jpg

Sorry, I don't have the game yet.:P

#12 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

After all the hype about TressFX it actually looks sh!t in motion. it's hugely distracting instead of looking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpS7_-EX9a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGM3cK2zJvo

#13 Posted by KodiakKoolaid (441 posts) -

Hi guys, sorry I didn't notice this thread earlier, anyway these are my first impressions:

 

PC Specific:

Decent port

no framerate issues (playing mostly on high settings)

Pretty scalable graphics

A little mouse acceleration

There is a benchmark like in Sleeping Dogs where you can tweak graphics and measure framerate (v.useful)

 

Pros: Game looks good, especially with tessellation and SSAO

Levels are packed with detail

Sound design is excellent

Controls are easy to pick up and play

Lara's pretty cute

 

Cons:

QTE QTE QTE...god when will this fad end....3 qtes in opening 30 mins

Levels seem linear for now may open up later

Lara's hair looks like ass. (on Normal)

 

Yup, hope this was useful for some of you. Got any more questions just ask

#14 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

After all the hype about TressFX it actually looks sh!t in motion. it's hugely distracting instead of looking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpS7_-EX9a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGM3cK2zJvo

seanmcloughlin

I guess I shouldn't try it...plus it'll run like crap on my setup since it's mainly for AMD cards.

#15 Posted by not_wanted (1977 posts) -

[QUOTE="nikeswoosh"]How are u guys playing already ive got it through steam and still not unlocked didnt buy it through them but came wit my new amd gpu and they used steam???with_teeth26

The game has already unlocked in Austraila and Japan. 

I played for 20 minutes maybe but was getting artifacting like crazy after exiting the cave and needed to quit the game, I'm installing the latest Nvidia beta drivers to see if that fixes the issue. 

I initially tried running it on ultimate with 4xSMAA and tressfx and it ran ok at first but when Lara was crawling through the water and her head filled the screen my FPS tanked to like 2 so I had to turn it off. Looks kinda silly anyways. 

Now running ultimate with 2xSMAA and normal hair, get 45-60fps which isn't great but isn't bad either. The controls seem fine so far but its too soon to comment on the gameplay beyond that with such limited experience. 

Can you run that on Nvidia cards? They said only on GCN cards the HD 7000 series. :o I have an HD 6850, will it work? :(

#16 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

After all the hype about TressFX it actually looks sh!t in motion. it's hugely distracting instead of looking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpS7_-EX9a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGM3cK2zJvo

mitu123

I guess I shouldn't try it...plus it'll run like crap on my setup since it's mainly for AMD cards.

The guy reported straight 60 without, and 30 with it on. Then when it got close to Lara it ran at 10 fps :?

#17 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

[QUOTE="nikeswoosh"]How are u guys playing already ive got it through steam and still not unlocked didnt buy it through them but came wit my new amd gpu and they used steam???not_wanted

The game has already unlocked in Austraila and Japan. 

I played for 20 minutes maybe but was getting artifacting like crazy after exiting the cave and needed to quit the game, I'm installing the latest Nvidia beta drivers to see if that fixes the issue. 

I initially tried running it on ultimate with 4xSMAA and tressfx and it ran ok at first but when Lara was crawling through the water and her head filled the screen my FPS tanked to like 2 so I had to turn it off. Looks kinda silly anyways. 

Now running ultimate with 2xSMAA and normal hair, get 45-60fps which isn't great but isn't bad either. The controls seem fine so far but its too soon to comment on the gameplay beyond that with such limited experience. 

Can you run that on Nvidia cards? They said only on GCN cards the HD 7000 series. :o I have an HD 6850, will it work? :(

It works on every GPU. AMD and Nvidia

#18 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

After all the hype about TressFX it actually looks sh!t in motion. it's hugely distracting instead of looking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpS7_-EX9a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGM3cK2zJvo

seanmcloughlin

I guess I shouldn't try it...plus it'll run like crap on my setup since it's mainly for AMD cards.

The guy reported straight 60 without, and 30 with it on. Then when it got close to Lara it ran at 10 fps :?

Doesn't seem optimized at all.:/
#19 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] I guess I shouldn't try it...plus it'll run like crap on my setup since it's mainly for AMD cards.

mitu123

The guy reported straight 60 without, and 30 with it on. Then when it got close to Lara it ran at 10 fps :?

Doesn't seem optimized at all.:/

I don't think it was optimised, it seems like tech they just made and used it as a selling point for TR, seems like they rushed it quite a bit cos it runs awful and looks bad. 

Give it time and I'm sure it will get better. 

#20 Posted by KodiakKoolaid (441 posts) -
Unless you have a super-powerful system TressFX will kill your performance. I recommend leaving it on normal.
#21 Posted by nutcrackr (12600 posts) -

TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. 

#22 Posted by KodiakKoolaid (441 posts) -
TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. It's basically why AMD don't mind that you can turn it on for nvidia cards - they know it won't run as well. nutcrackr
amd getting back at nvidia for physx hehe.
#23 Posted by with_teeth26 (6161 posts) -

If anyone is experiencing crazy graphical glitches like this:

tombraider2013030417193.jpg

Turn off SMAA. That fixed it for me. 

#24 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. 

nutcrackr

Well it's made by AMD so it will obviously run better on their cards

#25 Posted by not_wanted (1977 posts) -

[QUOTE="not_wanted"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

The game has already unlocked in Austraila and Japan. 

I played for 20 minutes maybe but was getting artifacting like crazy after exiting the cave and needed to quit the game, I'm installing the latest Nvidia beta drivers to see if that fixes the issue. 

I initially tried running it on ultimate with 4xSMAA and tressfx and it ran ok at first but when Lara was crawling through the water and her head filled the screen my FPS tanked to like 2 so I had to turn it off. Looks kinda silly anyways. 

Now running ultimate with 2xSMAA and normal hair, get 45-60fps which isn't great but isn't bad either. The controls seem fine so far but its too soon to comment on the gameplay beyond that with such limited experience. 

seanmcloughlin

Can you run that on Nvidia cards? They said only on GCN cards the HD 7000 series. :o I have an HD 6850, will it work? :(

It works on every GPU. AMD and Nvidia

I thought TressFX was developed by AMD and that it will work only on their HD 7000 cards and not on Nvidia cards. Guess I was wrong. :P It looks it was optimized to run better on AMD cards from what I've seen on the youtube vids' comments.

tressfx_480.jpg

#26 Posted by not_wanted (1977 posts) -

If anyone is experiencing crazy graphical glitches like this:

tombraider2013030417193.jpg

Turn off SMAA. That fixed it for me. 

with_teeth26

Does Lara have a nanosuit? lol

#27 Posted by KodiakKoolaid (441 posts) -

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

If anyone is experiencing crazy graphical glitches like this:

tombraider2013030417193.jpg

Turn off SMAA. That fixed it for me. 

not_wanted

Does Lara have a nanosuit? lol

Metal Gear Lara
#28 Posted by not_wanted (1977 posts) -

[QUOTE="not_wanted"]

[QUOTE="with_teeth26"]

If anyone is experiencing crazy graphical glitches like this:

tombraider2013030417193.jpg

Turn off SMAA. That fixed it for me. 

KodiakKoolaid

Does Lara have a nanosuit? lol

Metal Gear Lara

I was thinking about the Crysis nanosuit. :P Isn't the one in MGS called a camosuit or something like that?

#29 Posted by JangoWuzHere (16407 posts) -

After all the hype about TressFX it actually looks sh!t in motion. it's hugely distracting instead of looking good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpS7_-EX9a8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGM3cK2zJvo

seanmcloughlin

I don't know, that actually looks pretty good to me. Shame about the performance thoe.

#30 Posted by ferret-gamer (17312 posts) -

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]

TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. 

seanmcloughlin

Well it's made by AMD so it will obviously run better on their cards

It is not just this, compute stuff in general runs better on AMD cards, the 600 series is really mediocre for compute, they actually went backwards in a lot of areas compared to the 500 series.

#31 Posted by KodiakKoolaid (441 posts) -

[QUOTE="KodiakKoolaid"][QUOTE="not_wanted"]Does Lara have a nanosuit? lol

not_wanted

Metal Gear Lara

I was thinking about the Crysis nanosuit. :P Isn't the one in MGS called a camosuit or something like that?

I know what you mean, it's just that the environment reminded me of MGS3: subsistance.
#32 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="KodiakKoolaid"][QUOTE="not_wanted"]Does Lara have a nanosuit? lol

not_wanted

Metal Gear Lara

I was thinking about the Crysis nanosuit. :P Isn't the one in MGS called a camosuit or something like that?

Octocamo

#33 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]

TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. 

ferret-gamer

Well it's made by AMD so it will obviously run better on their cards

It is not just this, compute stuff in general runs better on AMD cards, the 600 series is really mediocre for compute, they actually went backwards in a lot of areas compared to the 500 series.

The 660Ti and 670 are pretty good. 680 was a massive let down, hence GTX Titan coming out so soon after trying to rectify it

#34 Posted by nutcrackr (12600 posts) -
Anybody get to big puzzles yet? Or crazy action? only really had to use the torch to burn a few items. One puzzle section was shown in those early videos. In fact pretty much everything I've seen so far was shown in videos (plane, waterfall, deer huntin', rock obstacle course). So it should get better from this point on.
#35 Posted by Elann2008 (32976 posts) -
[QUOTE="nutcrackr"]TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. It's basically why AMD don't mind that you can turn it on for nvidia cards - they know it won't run as well. KodiakKoolaid
amd getting back at nvidia for physx hehe.

So tressFX isn't as "open" as we thought..
#36 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10657 posts) -
[QUOTE="KodiakKoolaid"][QUOTE="nutcrackr"]TressFx runs fine on AMD cards. Current gen amd cards are just better at open CL or direct compute than similar performance nvidia cards. It's basically why AMD don't mind that you can turn it on for nvidia cards - they know it won't run as well. Elann2008
amd getting back at nvidia for physx hehe.

So tressFX isn't as "open" as we thought..

Not AMD's fault that Nvidia cards are poopy in compute calculations.
#37 Posted by biggest_loser (24053 posts) -
If they're going to include QTEs could they bother to display actual keys next time? The last time I checked I didn't have a flashing circle key on my keyboard.
#38 Posted by RyviusARC (4576 posts) -

I have the settings maxed (ultimate) at 1680x1050.

On my GTX 570 the largest dip I saw was down to 25fps but it only lasted for like a second.

I have my fps capped at 35fps and it never goes lower unless the camera gets really close to Lara's head and usually it only dips to like 30fps when that happens.

I capped my fps to make the game run smoother and I don't really notice the fps dips.

Will probably use sweetfx to get rid of the blurriness from FXAA.....no way in hell I am using SSAA.

 

 

#39 Posted by Kaisfate (141 posts) -
just turn tressFX off... even on AMD cards there are reports of 15-20FPS loss with it on.... nvidia cards its more like 30-35. plus, it looks ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE in motion. if laura is standing still, it looks great, but once she starts running, jumping, climbing trees (action transvestite! please tell me someone gets that joke....), it looks really really bad.
#40 Posted by RyviusARC (4576 posts) -

just turn tressFX off... even on AMD cards there are reports of 15-20FPS loss with it on.... nvidia cards its more like 30-35. plus, it looks ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE in motion. if laura is standing still, it looks great, but once she starts running, jumping, climbing trees (action transvestite! please tell me someone gets that joke....), it looks really really bad.Kaisfate

It looks fine to me, although I am not constantly looking at her hair.

#41 Posted by Kaisfate (141 posts) -

I have the settings maxed (ultimate) at 1680x1050.

On my GTX 570 the largest dip I saw was down to 25fps but it only lasted for like a second.

I have my fps capped at 35fps and it never goes lower unless the camera gets really close to Lara's head and usually it only dips to like 30fps.

I capped my fps to make the game run smoother and I don't really notice the fps dips.

Will probably use sweetfx to get rid of the blurriness from FXAA.....not way in hell I am using SSAA.

 

 

RyviusARC
that is because you are running at 1680x1050.... if you tried at 1920x1080 you would notice frames down in the low 20s, with closeups on laura dipping into the low teens. aside from that, it isnt even worth it. it actually, honestly, makes her hair look worse. when she is running around, it is like her hair is having convultions
#42 Posted by biggest_loser (24053 posts) -
Just be careful if you're playing with subtitles on. I think the subtitles might have overlapped a QTE key so I couldn't see it properly.
#43 Posted by with_teeth26 (6161 posts) -

I've issues with crashing after visiting the camp fire after killing the first deer. I'm fairly sure its a problem with the newer Nvidia drivers since a message pops up saying they stopped working after the game crashes. I'm going to roll back to an earlier version. 

#44 Posted by Elann2008 (32976 posts) -

I've having to issues with crashing after visiting th camp fire after killing the first deer. I'm fairly sure its a problem with the newer Nvidia drivers since a message pops up saying they stopped working after the game crashes. I'm going to roll back to an earlier version. 

with_teeth26
In before, Crystal Dynamics worked with AMD for YEARS for hardware. :P It's true though!
#45 Posted by RyviusARC (4576 posts) -

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"]

I have the settings maxed (ultimate) at 1680x1050.

On my GTX 570 the largest dip I saw was down to 25fps but it only lasted for like a second.

I have my fps capped at 35fps and it never goes lower unless the camera gets really close to Lara's head and usually it only dips to like 30fps.

I capped my fps to make the game run smoother and I don't really notice the fps dips.

Will probably use sweetfx to get rid of the blurriness from FXAA.....not way in hell I am using SSAA.

 

 

Kaisfate

that is because you are running at 1680x1050.... if you tried at 1920x1080 you would notice frames down in the low 20s, with closeups on laura dipping into the low teens. aside from that, it isnt even worth it. it actually, honestly, makes her hair look worse. when she is running around, it is like her hair is having convultions

 

I like it with it on and yah I know 1680x1050 makes it run better than 1920x1080.

I was just stating my performance.

.

Also some screenshots.

 

#46 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10657 posts) -
Yay! I get average 90fps with every setting maxed out, TressFX, and FXAA. It goes from 74fps to my cap of 121fps, but it settles around the 90 mark the most.
#47 Posted by Elann2008 (32976 posts) -
[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Yay! I get average 90fps with every setting maxed out, TressFX, and FXAA. It goes from 74fps to my cap of 121fps, but it settles around the 90 mark the most.

Another reason to buy a 7970. Good on you AMD. Good on you! Keep the fight going!
#48 Posted by BPoole96 (22800 posts) -
So based on the in game benchmark, my 6950s can play it maxed out in 1440p if TressFX is turned off and FXAA. If I turn it on I get an average of 40fps. If I play the game in 1080p I get a 52fps average
#49 Posted by trastamad03 (4859 posts) -

Game is maintaining 50fps (with occasional dips to 30-40fps) for me with settings on Ultimate. Although, from time to time there's some graphical glitches with AA. Honestly, TressFX is too... spazzy... Hair has a mind of it's own.

#50 Posted by Kaisfate (141 posts) -

in stills it looks great, but when you actually play, it looks horrible. each strand of her hair just flies all over the place and looks completely ridiculous. i have had several instances of her pony tail actually clipping through her face, and i have had several instances of 2 or 3 strands of hair getting stuck sticking out of her face when they clip through, so it looks like she has these giant hairs growing out of her eyeball or something.

clearly it wasnt implemented well and was just slapped on there as some sort of tech demonstration. even if you can get playable frames with it on, it is a negative impact on the visual quality of the game.