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Today, Nvidia said core GM204, a GeForce GTX 970/980. It is a clear triumph, which indeed we predicted two months ago. Traditionally, we are much mistaken. I predicted significantly smaller than GK110 chip, significantly fewer CUDA cores, significantly higher bars and at least a third less fuel consumption. Also, the price was successful, modern card on the day the price below 16000 unexpected surprise. AMD can only counteract price, product does not currently have what to offer. But today I will talk about but the GM204 GM200. The chip is ready, even now by všho few months ago went tape-out .

GeForce GTX 990 and probably Titan X on the way!

According to our source chip should have the following key features:

  • Chip size from 10 to 15 percent over the GK110 (551 mm2)
  • Number of CUDA in 2816 (20-22 SMM blocks), apparently the first version will be active all chip in SMM
  • Memory bus 384 or 512-bit (rather I-384 bit)
  • Gaming and professional card should come out at the same time, a game like Titan X
  • Launch of Q4 / 2014
  • Performance Titan X - 40-50 percent over Titan Black

The chip is still made at 28nm, therefore, should not be significantly greater than GK110. Number of CUDA should be somewhere around +/- 2800 CUDA cores that power should be significantly higher. If the GTX 980 just 2,048 CUDA and high frequencies to power in 2880 with CUDA GTX 780 Ti will offer 2800 CUDA Maxwell significantly higher performance than 2800 CUDA Kepler. Frequency definitely go above 1 GHz in the base, maybe somewhere Boost to 1.1 GHz. With this potential would actually 40-50 percent of the industry's highest performing graphics (Titan Black / GTX 780 Ti) could have an overview. The question be it bus memory, it certainly is not. It can be either 384 or 512-bit, I tend rather to 384-bits. Important is also the date of commissioning, said it will be the end of this year. Whether you buy a card but this year or early next year, we'll see. Source clearly speaks of December 2014 the spring should also be GM204 Refresh the smaller manufacturing process, at that moment would GM200 should still be on 28nm. GM210 on modern process of today is at least a year.

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Although I strongly disagree on die size, GK204 was 294mm2 while GM204 is 398mm2, from 3,5b to 5,2b transistors, so its unlikely only 10-15% die increase (25-30% would be more believable), I think this article might not be far from truth.

I wouldn't believe it but today I read an article on TechpowerUp that pretty much approve this:

MSI Holding Off on GTX 980 Lightning, in Anticipation of Bigger Chip

MSI is reportedly holding off on launching an overclocking-grade GeForce GTX 980 graphics card that you can ride into record-setting competitions, based on its coveted OC Series Lightning brand. The company probably wants to avoid a repeat of last year, when launch of its GeForce GTX 780 Lightning graphics card was closely trailed by NVIDIA's launch of the inherently faster GeForce GTX 780 Ti, and resulting price-cuts for the GTX 780, throwing MSI's inventories in jeopardy. The company could stick to selling its Gaming Series GTX 980, equipped with the new Twin Frozr V cooling solution, even offering factory-overclocked variants of the card. This also leads one to wonder if NVIDIA has a third, high-end graphics card based on the GM204 silicon, on the 'cards,' one with higher clock speeds, or a higher temperature-based clock speed throttle, which is currently at a hair-trigger 80°C on the GTX 980.

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#3  Edited By RyviusARC
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Whatever comes out won't bother my purchase of 2 GTX 970s since I doubt it will be better in price:performance ratio.

And if it is then it won't be by much.

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@RyviusARC said:

Whatever comes out won't bother my purchase of 2 GTX 970s since I doubt it will be better in price:performance ratio.

And if it is then it won't be by much.

I think that we will be looking at a $1000+ product :P.

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I'm more interested in the TDP than brute power of this card.

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finally a proper next gen GPU

i don't want any of that mindrange power efficient crap.

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I was bummed/excited to see how well the 980 and 970 are doing. I did just buy 2 Titan Blacks a few months ago. But knowing how Nvidia is we should all know that some monster card is right around the corner. So once I get the X99 build stable and overclocked I will look into new GPU's or adding a 3rd Titan Black. Vram being the deciding factor.

It's also going to be tough to sell older cards with the 970 being so cheap. I sat on my 690 too long and who knows what I'm gonna get for it now. I don't even want to think how bad the resale value on a Titan/Titan Black will be.

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http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-gtx-titan-x-coming/

Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti / GTX Titan X ‘GM200′ Specs Allegedly Leaked

First of all, I would like to apologize in advance for the heading. I do not know what the GM200 GPU will be called, but since I have to name the article something appropriate, 980 Ti and Titan X will have to do. Anyways here are the specs as mentioned by PCTuning:

  • Die Size: 551mm^2
  • SMMs/CUDA Cores: 20-22/ 2560-2816
  • Memory Bus: 384 Bit
  • Performance: ~50% Boost over GTX Titan Black
  • Launch: Q4 2014

Now, the publication mentions that the professional and gaming equivalents will release together and there is a chance that Nvidia will keep the GM200 GPU for the professional space only. In such a case a “Geforce GTX 990″ is expected rocking two GM204 Cores. This is where the actual leak from PCTuning ends and I take the reigns on conjecture, so if speculation isn’t your cup of tea you might want to skip this part.

Basically, we already know that the GM200 chip/GTX 980 Ti/TitanX is completely ready. Its customer samples were tested a few weeks back and if it follows the same trend as the Gm204 then it should be out and about within 2 months at most. This is confirmed by data from the shipping portal zauba.com. Before the first ‘CS’ entry which appeared on 12th August 2014, there had only been entries using the nomenclature ‘INT’ which means the core is meant for Internal Testing. Because green follows the same pattern we knew that once the INT chips were spotted the CS chips wouldn’t be that far behind and chips with the name GM200-CS0-A1 and GM200-CS1-A1 were soon spotted, indicating that the GPU is now ready. This core will have double the performance per watt of the GK110 core (as can be seen from the research paper) and we should see an amazing leap in gaming performance from 204 to 200.

Now while the GM204-A1 die is based on the 28nm process, and as I have previously mentioned before sources inside the industry tell me Nvidia is thinking about porting the circuit to 20nm in 2015. There is also one more path Nvidia can choose. I believe that Nvidia is keeping the Gm200 GPU as the ultimate checkmate against AMD. If AMD rolls out a competing flagship on the 28nm node, by my estimates the GM200 should have the performance crown. Either way, the leak scene is starting again.

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@klunt_bumskrint said:

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-ti-gtx-titan-x-coming/

Nvidia Geforce GTX 980 Ti / GTX Titan X ‘GM200′ Specs Allegedly Leaked

First of all, I would like to apologize in advance for the heading. I do not know what the GM200 GPU will be called, but since I have to name the article something appropriate, 980 Ti and Titan X will have to do. Anyways here are the specs as mentioned by PCTuning:

  • Die Size: 551mm^2
  • SMMs/CUDA Cores: 20-22/ 2560-2816
  • Memory Bus: 384 Bit
  • Performance: ~50% Boost over GTX Titan Black
  • Launch: Q4 2014

Now, the publication mentions that the professional and gaming equivalents will release together and there is a chance that Nvidia will keep the GM200 GPU for the professional space only. In such a case a “Geforce GTX 990″ is expected rocking two GM204 Cores. This is where the actual leak from PCTuning ends and I take the reigns on conjecture, so if speculation isn’t your cup of tea you might want to skip this part.

Basically, we already know that the GM200 chip/GTX 980 Ti/TitanX is completely ready. Its customer samples were tested a few weeks back and if it follows the same trend as the Gm204 then it should be out and about within 2 months at most. This is confirmed by data from the shipping portal zauba.com. Before the first ‘CS’ entry which appeared on 12th August 2014, there had only been entries using the nomenclature ‘INT’ which means the core is meant for Internal Testing. Because green follows the same pattern we knew that once the INT chips were spotted the CS chips wouldn’t be that far behind and chips with the name GM200-CS0-A1 and GM200-CS1-A1 were soon spotted, indicating that the GPU is now ready. This core will have double the performance per watt of the GK110 core (as can be seen from the research paper) and we should see an amazing leap in gaming performance from 204 to 200.

Now while the GM204-A1 die is based on the 28nm process, and as I have previously mentioned before sources inside the industry tell me Nvidia is thinking about porting the circuit to 20nm in 2015. There is also one more path Nvidia can choose. I believe that Nvidia is keeping the Gm200 GPU as the ultimate checkmate against AMD. If AMD rolls out a competing flagship on the 28nm node, by my estimates the GM200 should have the performance crown. Either way, the leak scene is starting again.

I already got my GPUs so I am staying out of rumors for now.

They were getting really annoying with the GTX 970/980.

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5 months ago GM204 was tested.

We got GM204 in middle September.

3 months ago GM200 was tested.

?????

Profit! :P

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Just in time for Christmas :)

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I know I'm a broken record player but hopefully EVGA puts one of these out before Christmas :o