Skyrim: Crash to desktop discussion

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#1 Posted by spittis (1875 posts) -
The purpose of this thread is mainly to see if there are people here with the issue, so we can discuss fixes and updates. The game used to run fine for me, however I noticed that the longer I got into the story and questing, the more frequently I got these CDTs that just appear suddently without any messages. It only happens when fast traveling or loading a new area. This led me to believe it's an issue when the game needs to load lots of data of what have changed in the world around you since it was untouched. Which then again led me to believe it's related to the memory issue many have, that was fixed with a custom exe. Now when I play I crash every 10 minutes or so, making the game unplayable. The last patch (Nov 21) took away the ability to use custom executable to launch skyrim, thus breaking the "LAA" mod (Large Address Aware, which allowed skyrim to use more than 2GB memory) that fixed these crashes. I'm going to update here later today if I find any working solution, there are a few ones to try in the Steam forums but I'm a bit skeptical about it. UPDATE: This is the mod that seems to fix crashes for most people http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013 You launch the game from the .exe that comes with it. Steam achievements works with it if anyone was wondering that.
#2 Posted by sleepingzzz (2262 posts) -

95% of my crashes happens when I'm in the thieves guild area. I just remember to save often when I'm there.

#3 Posted by IxX3xil3d0n3XxI (1508 posts) -
Happening a lot more for me since the patch. The only mod i have installed anymore is the FXAA one. I turned off every other mod cause i couldnt get through a loading screen without crashing. Now its one every 5 or 10 loading screens and 80% of the time its when im fast traveling

Edit: just noticed when i change my FoV to 75(which is what ive been playing on for almost 98hrs) it crashes very quickly.
#4 Posted by malikmmm (2183 posts) -
had close to 15+ craches and all were in that bonechill cave. never had any after that though...
#5 Posted by themagicbum9720 (6505 posts) -
crashed a few times before the patch, no crashes since the patch.
#6 Posted by kozzy1234 (35263 posts) -

If you had the thing to make skyrim use more then 2gb, you should turn that off and if needed replace your skyrim.exe with the original one (can find thsi at nexus skyrim mods).

Steam did an update to not allow people to play skyrim without steam and editing the exe file (which is what that 2gb>>> did).

I started up skyrim after this update and it crashed every 10 seconds (after only crashing once in 64 hours). I just turned the 2GB>>> thing off and then replaced the .exe in steam/skyrim with the original one. Working fine for 2-3 hours after.

#7 Posted by IxX3xil3d0n3XxI (1508 posts) -
This is the new skyrim4gb mod. Seems to be working great for me, no crashes my last 2hrs since trying it. All credits go to the author on nexus.

Skyrim4gb
#8 Posted by Cwagmire21 (5896 posts) -

I've had about 5 crashes before patch and 1 afterwards.

#10 Posted by fivex84 (1214 posts) -

I had a couple of crashes on launch day until I figured out the audio-hz setting. Since then zero crashes. I didn't even know there was a patch.

#11 Posted by vortix (2 posts) -

Well, I'm seeing very frequent crashes. Game ran pretty well originally, with only one or two crashes a night. Now, I'm level 25 and the crashes are occurring so frequently that it's pretty much unplayable at this point. Here's what I've tried:

1) I reset the sound quality to 44100 as pointed out by many others. This seems to have had no effect on the crash frequency.

2) I've verified I have the most recent drivers (catalyst 11.11) and application profiles (11.11 cap2)

3) I've applied the large address aware patch. However, after the last update it appears this no longer works and the game will not launch at all until modified back.

4) I've reinstalled Skyrim and verified local files.

Thus far, none of these have had any impact on the crashes. In case it helps (although I don't believe this problem is hardware related), these are the important bits of the system:

Win 7 64 Professional

Core I7 980X

Radeon 6990

Acer GD235Hz monitor (3, but running single screen 1920x1080 for Skyrim)

12G Ram

Asus Rampage III Gene

Corsair AX1200 power supply

#12 Posted by trastamad03 (4859 posts) -
My game only crashes when I set the game to Ultra (with Shadows on High) Something in the Ultra preset must be causing problems... Maybe it's the object fade option... I don't know... I'd rather be playing than testing :P
#13 Posted by sinpkr (1255 posts) -

revert to the old exe with the laa mod installed on. all u have to do is look at ur skyrim properties and previous versions then grab that exe back it up in case and copy and replace ur current exe with that. its not that hard

#15 Posted by SPBoss (3632 posts) -
I get them in all instances, indoor, outdoor, fast travelling. Even when theres hardly anything going on. My crashes increased by frequence until i got to level 12 but i couldn't even load those saves as it instantly crashed to desktop so im back to a level 8 save. Fix the problem dammit! :(
#18 Posted by jhonny7 (13 posts) -
I had absolutely no CTDs before this unannounced patch on steam ... Now i can't seem to walk ten steps without it!!! This basically did to my game what I was reading about happening to other players ... other posters were complaining about CTDs before this patch and I was like, WTH are these guys talking about, my game is silky smooth. If this is the kind of patches we are going to get then I beg them not to give us any more! Plz!
#19 Posted by jhonny7 (13 posts) -
I had absolutely no CTDs before this unannounced patch on steam ... Now i can't seem to walk ten steps without it!!! This basically did to my game what I was reading about happening to other players ... other posters were complaining about CTDs before this patch and I was like, WTH are these guys talking about, my game is silky smooth. If this is the kind of patches we are going to get then I beg them not to give us any more! Plz!
#21 Posted by vortix (2 posts) -

Just as an update, after applying using the latest method to make Skyrim use more than 2G of memory, I have seen no issues at all. This has completely fixed all my crashes and works with the latest update to Skyrim as well:

http://www.actiontrip.com/link.phtml?http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1013

#22 Posted by wurn (2254 posts) -
Agreed, i changed mine to 44100hz 24bit. Mine was a bit higher and no crashes yet.

I had a couple of crashes on launch day until I figured out the audio-hz setting. Since then zero crashes. I didn't even know there was a patch.

fivex84
#23 Posted by seanmcloughlin (38216 posts) -

Before mods I had 0 crashes and now with mods I get about 3 per day. Its annoying but I just remember to save very often

#24 Posted by CoS_Ethan (325 posts) -

I'm ready to play the game, crashes, I have to hesitate.

#25 Posted by lil_d_mack_314 (13968 posts) -

I usually get crashes when fast traveling or leaving a cave, mine, etc.

#26 Posted by 999realthings (2674 posts) -

Just used the Skyrim 4GB Ram thing, it much more stable and it only crashed after 4 hours instead of regulary.

#27 Posted by Am_Confucius (3376 posts) -

Happens rarely for me, like one time every 3-4 hours, but it's no biggie as the auto-save system is great.

#28 Posted by banzaigtv (99 posts) -

I had my audio setting on 24-bit 48 khz (for the purpose of Blu-ray video playback) and has occasional CTDs in Whiterun. I changed the audio to 24-bit 44.1 khz and not only has the game stopped crashing, but the game ran considerably smoother. I would like to find out how I could have an application use an exclusive audio setting on Windows 7. I would be tired of constantly switching audio settings every time I watch a Blu-ray film and launch Skyrim.

#29 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -

Just used the Skyrim 4GB Ram thing, it much more stable and it only crashed after 4 hours instead of regulary.

999realthings
Would you still reccomend using it if you only have 4GB of RAM in your system ?
#30 Posted by Chris_53 (5119 posts) -
Also changed my audio to 24-bit 44.1khz, for some reason it was at 16-bit 48khz.. Will let you all know how it goes after ive played it, whch will probably be later on.
#31 Posted by spittis (1875 posts) -
[QUOTE="999realthings"]

Just used the Skyrim 4GB Ram thing, it much more stable and it only crashed after 4 hours instead of regulary.

Chris_53
Would you still reccomend using it if you only have 4GB of RAM in your system ?

Using it with 4GB RAM is fine.
#32 Posted by Jd1680a (5941 posts) -
Skyrim would crash directly to desktop every two hours. I will be doing really anything, loading to another zone, running, or talking to a NPC the game would crash to my desktop instantly.
#33 Posted by Elann2008 (32991 posts) -
What the... the PS3 syndrome is also happening on the PC version? Damn it to hell.. Bethz. (not trying to troll). I haven't played Skyrim in a good while. Perhaps I'll play it again this weekend and report if I notice any differences.
#34 Posted by lpjazzman220 (2248 posts) -

the 4gig ram mod helped alot for me...

#35 Posted by Makari (15250 posts) -
I basically don't crash while using the 4GB RAM mod (though it's 1.3 or something, an older version - hadn't bothered to look for updates). Without it, I crash infrequently.. maybe every couple of hours.
#36 Posted by Pinthar (2 posts) -
Help! I'm so pissed off. Who is ready to join me in a class action law suit against Bethesda? Too many players are reporting problems with Skyrim. No fixes, no Support, no updates and no playablitiy. I didn't give these a-holes my money to sit for hours on end trying to get the game to work. Why does it need Steam? Why? Why couldn't Bethesda just make it like Morrowind, or Oblivion? Why stupid Steam launcher. It doesn't work, and crashes games. This is ridiculous. So, if you want to join me in a class action suit against Bethesda targeting the playabliity of Skyrim, them please please contact me. I just want my money back - or a game that freaking works without crashing on start up and without stupid Steam. I haven't even been able to start a freaking game because it just crashes to desktop right when the guy in the cart talks to me. forget this. I'm so pissed off at Bethesda crapworks...I'm ready to play hardball with these idiots! Get rid of Steam, and make this game playable!!!!! And yes, I changed the sound, lowered my graphics, reset, reboot, re-installed, uninstalled, and NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING works.. law suit!!!!!!!!!!! You guys want your money back for the crap non-working, no fun, game Bethesda crapworks has produced. Contact me!!! I'm not being nice, and I shouldn't after reading all the problems people have been having. GET RID OF STEAM. MAKE THIS GAME PLAYABLE!!!!! My PC meets all the requirements and them some to play this game...crap, crap, crap!!!!
#37 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

Happened to me all the time before th patch, to the point I took a break on it to focus on RAGE and Dead Island for a bit. Hopefully the patch means no more of that for me.

#38 Posted by SPYDER0416 (16736 posts) -

Help! I'm so pissed off. Who is ready to join me in a class action law suit against Bethesda? Too many players are reporting problems with Skyrim. No fixes, no Support, no updates and no playablitiy. I didn't give these a-holes my money to sit for hours on end trying to get the game to work. Why does it need Steam? Why? Why couldn't Bethesda just make it like Morrowind, or Oblivion? Why stupid Steam launcher. It doesn't work, and crashes games. This is ridiculous. So, if you want to join me in a class action suit against Bethesda targeting the playabliity of Skyrim, them please please contact me. I just want my money back - or a game that freaking works without crashing on start up and without stupid Steam. I haven't even been able to start a freaking game because it just crashes to desktop right when the guy in the cart talks to me. forget this. I'm so pissed off at Bethesda crapworks...I'm ready to play hardball with these idiots! Get rid of Steam, and make this game playable!!!!! And yes, I changed the sound, lowered my graphics, reset, reboot, re-installed, uninstalled, and NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING works.. law suit!!!!!!!!!!! You guys want your money back for the crap non-working, no fun, game Bethesda crapworks has produced. Contact me!!! I'm not being nice, and I shouldn't after reading all the problems people have been having. GET RID OF STEAM. MAKE THIS GAME PLAYABLE!!!!! My PC meets all the requirements and them some to play this game...crap, crap, crap!!!!Pinthar

Dammit, should have known this was a necro thread. These things are everywhere lately.

At least its one from a month ago and not a decade ago.

#39 Posted by superclocked (5823 posts) -
It's only happened to me a couple of times, and I've played for about 100hrs so far.. The broken bookcase in the Breezehome was more frustrating, and that barely bothered me...
#40 Posted by Pinthar (2 posts) -
Please help. SKYRIM. I have loaded the game through Steam. launched the game through Steam, and presto game works...until I awaken in the cart, then it crashes, over and over and over and over...I've managed to get to the part where I at least can look around at the other criminals in the cart...and then it crashes. Have not been able to start a game...cant even get to make my character.... Crash crash after crash. I updated to DX11, I've upgraded my AMD 1 gig DDR5 graphics card. I've made the sound check. I've added the "off" to anti-aliasing...and nothing works. I've turned my fan speed up to 80%, I've turned down to bare minimum graphics...Everything that is supposed to work FAILS! Please help. I want to play this game soon or I'm going to have to sue Bethesda to refund my game money on account the game doesn't work...and looking around, many, many people seem to have the same problem...They should call it Crashrim instead. If anyone can help me please. My system more than meets the basic requirements to run the game. Here is my system specs: * 2000.40 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity * 877.52 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space * Windows Vista Home Premium Service Pack 2 (build 6002) * 2.80 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core * 128 kilobyte primary memory cache * 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache * 64-bit ready * Multi-core (2 total) * Not hyper-threaded *AMD Radeon HD 6770 Series [Display adapter] *1GB/Go *GDDR5 *3582 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB Slot 'A2' has 1024 MB Slot 'A3' has 1024 MB
#41 Posted by ChiliDragon (8467 posts) -
Dammit, should have known this was a necro thread. These things are everywhere lately. At least its one from a month ago and not a decade ago.SPYDER0416
Month old, years old... if they're bumped, we lock them! :twisted: