Skyrim brightness auto adjust. Game or monitor?

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#1 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -

Ok so recently I ordered an Asus VE258Q. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236123

It's a great monitor, except the only issue I have is that there seems to be something wrong with the way it processes bright and dim lighting. I noticed this the most in Skyrim and I hear other people are getting the same thing, and they are saying it's a game thing. Now, I'm not denying that, however, to the extent that I'm experiencing it, I think it's a monitor issue as well because it's pretty bad. I tried configuring with the settings and nothing seemed to fix this. It seems when you turn the brightness all the way up (monitor and game) it makes it less worse, but it's still there and it's extremely annoying. I'm pretty sure it's the monitor, so what I wanted to ask you all was if you are experiencing it as well and if you are, how bad is it? Because it's really bad for me and I want to know what the issue is exactly, whether or not I can do anything to make it go away, and if not, which monitor does not have this issue?

I mean, could it be because it's an LED? I doubt it...

#2 Posted by PS2_ROCKS (4679 posts) -
With the monitor...change the 'Splendid' mode to anything except Standard or sRGB. Then, in the 'Image' menu, turn ASCR off. I don't have Skyrim, but I'm guessing that's the monitor dynamically adjusting it's contrast levels.
#3 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -

With the monitor...change the 'Splendid' mode to anything except Standard or sRGB. Then, in the 'Image' menu, turn ASCR off. I don't have Skyrim, but I'm guessing that's the monitor dynamically adjusting it's contrast levels.PS2_ROCKS
Ok I will go try that right now, thanks for the response. I'll get back to you with the results.

EDIT: It turns out that the ASCR was already off and I was in game mode also. (Not standard or sRGB) I tried turning ASCR on, and I didn't notice a difference at all. What does ASCR mean and what does it do when you turn it off? What other settings do you think could adjust the dynamic contrast levels?

Also, what do you use to display your console games? Is it an HDTV or monitor, what model and is it good for gaming? Any issues?

Appreciate it.

#4 Posted by PS2_ROCKS (4679 posts) -

ASCR: Asus Smart Contrast Ratio. It's responsible for changing the contrast ratio on the fly. Turning it off should disable this effect. I'm not sure what to say about that not working...

As for what I use, that is a tricky question.

For PC gaming: a 32" 1080p LG TV. Just something like this.

For console gaming: A CRT Projector (1080i, 110" screen) NEC 9PG+ OR A 21" Compaq P1210 CRT monitor.

The CRT monitor has the best picture all around. I can pump a 1080p signal into it from my PS3 and it is beautiful. The projector is the most immersive and the LCD TV just works. Nice picture, sharp, bright. Typical LCD.

#5 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -

ASCR: Asus Smart Contrast Ratio. It's responsible for changing the contrast ratio on the fly. Turning it off should disable this effect. I'm not sure what to say about that not working...

As for what I use, that is a tricky question.

For PC gaming: a 32" 1080p LG TV. Just something like this.

For console gaming: A CRT Projector (1080i, 110" screen) NEC 9PG+ OR A 21" Compaq P1210 CRT monitor.

The CRT monitor has the best picture all around. I can pump a 1080p signal into it from my PS3 and it is beautiful. The projector is the most immersive and the LCD TV just works. Nice picture, sharp, bright. Typical LCD.

PS2_ROCKS

ASCR: Asus Smart Contrast Ratio. It's responsible for changing the contrast ratio on the fly. Turning it off should disable this effect. I'm not sure what to say about that not working...

As for what I use, that is a tricky question.

For PC gaming: a 32" 1080p LG TV. Just something like this.

For console gaming: A CRT Projector (1080i, 110" screen) NEC 9PG+ OR A 21" Compaq P1210 CRT monitor.

The CRT monitor has the best picture all around. I can pump a 1080p signal into it from my PS3 and it is beautiful. The projector is the most immersive and the LCD TV just works. Nice picture, sharp, bright. Typical LCD.

PS2_ROCKS

Ok thanks for your feedback, it's unfortunate you don't have the game because I'm not even sure if I'm explaining it right. I just wish other ppl would see this...

#6 Posted by PS2_ROCKS (4679 posts) -
I think it was Crysis that had a simulated pupil dilation effect. That is, when you looked at the sun everything became slightly dimmer, and when you walked into a dark room, everything became slightly brighter. It was really smooth and seemed realistic, definitely not annoying. But explain your problem in more detail since the topic title is the only description you have of it.
#7 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -
[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I think it was Crysis that had a simulated pupil dilation effect. That is, when you looked at the sun everything became slightly dimmer, and when you walked into a dark room, everything became slightly brighter. It was really smooth and seemed realistic, definitely not annoying. But explain your problem in more detail since the topic title is the only description you have of it.

Here's a couple links that I found on youtube that demonstrates what I'm referring to. 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg7dLtXfPdo 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i37v0N1LAA&feature=related Now, that doesn't just happen when you look up & down. It happens wherever you move your camera from a lighter area to a darker area. It's mostly a problem when you are outside in the day time (you hardly notice it during the night, but the effect is still there) however I have noticed this even indoors, mainly dungeons and caves. Now don't get me wrong, you may think "that's not a big deal" and you're right, it's not, if I wasn't so picky I probably could just get over it and move on and play the game. But it really ruins the experience for me and according to this ( http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/206897547/p1/ ) these people seem to like the effect. Now, this is why I came on here because from what I've heard so far, the delayed lighting adjust effect is part of the game but like I said, to the extent that I'm (and probably a lot others) experiencing it, it's way different and this really needs to be addressed. I even noticed this in red dead redemption, although it's very slight and the only way you would notice it is if you try hard to spot it. But as far as Skyrim goes... it's much much worse. What do you recommend I do?
#8 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -

Here's another link that shows what I'm talking about, although this guy might have a more severe case of it and you'll know what I mean when you see it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0m4ipRBVTo&feature=related

#9 Posted by PS2_ROCKS (4679 posts) -

Ah yeah that is like an extreme version of what Crysis did. It's intended to be a feature not a bug but it looks slightly annoying.

Hmm...I'm not sure if there is any easy fix to this.

#10 Posted by DryBomber5 (198 posts) -

Ah yeah that is like an extreme version of what Crysis did. It's intended to be a feature not a bug but it looks slightly annoying.

Hmm...I'm not sure if there is any easy fix to this.

PS2_ROCKS
So basically, everyone else (as far as xbox360/ps3 goes) has to put up with it as well to the same extent? Maybe this only applies to people who have LCD or LED monitor/hdtvs? I'm basically just trying to get to the bottom of it.
#11 Posted by lewishim666 (118 posts) -

If I wasn't so picky I probably could just get over it and move on and play the game.DryBomber5

I hate to dig up this old thread but maybe you can explain to me why the pickiest people are also the most stupid or should I say retarded? Every single time that someone complains about something like this they are the most ignorant person ever when it comes to the subject. The effect that is "ruining" the game for you is a part of the game. It's called eye adaptation aka the thing that your eyes do in the very same situation. You might know this if you went outside ever. The reason why your game "appears" to be messed up is because you don't have your screen calibrated right, you have the brightness in the game set wrong, and you probably have dynamic contrast on. Apparently you're not that picky if you're not even worried about having your screen set up right. I don't know if you know this but screens aren't set up out of the box. You have to calibrate it to your room. Once you have the screen calibrated leave brightness slider in game in the middle and the game will look like it is intended to. If you still don't like the way it looks get your eyes or brain fixed because the game looks fine.

#12 Posted by kraken2109 (12971 posts) -

[QUOTE="DryBomber5"]If I wasn't so picky I probably could just get over it and move on and play the game.lewishim666

I hate to dig up this old thread but maybe you can explain to me why the pickiest people are also the most stupid or should I say retarded? Every single time that someone complains about something like this they are the most ignorant person ever when it comes to the subject. The effect that is "ruining" the game for you is a part of the game. It's called eye adaptation aka the thing that your eyes do in the very same situation. You might know this if you went outside ever. The reason why your game "appears" to be messed up is because you don't have your screen calibrated right, you have the brightness in the game set wrong, and you probably have dynamic contrast on. Apparently you're not that picky if you're not even worried about having your screen set up right. I don't know if you know this but screens aren't set up out of the box. You have to calibrate it to your room. Once you have the screen calibrated leave brightness slider in game in the middle and the game will look like it is intended to. If you still don't like the way it looks get your eyes or brain fixed because the game looks fine.

Why would you dig up a year old thread just to insult somebody..?