£600/700 Gaming PC - Check my parts please?

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#1 Edited by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

Hi all,

Decided a few months back that the consoles were pretty poor and thought that this is my chance to jump onto PC gaming. I initially stared with a £400 budget but this has slowly increased as I got more into researching the parts/performance etc. I then set myself a limit of £600 but this has slowly crept up, if you fine people can knock it down nearer that figure without sacrificing too much performance I'd appreciate, and so would my wallet.

I don't wish to overclock any of my components, I want the best products out of the box but if they overclock then that's a bonus. It will basically be used as a games console with windows 7/8 and eventually SteamOS, my course will also require a small amount of photoshop/video editing throughout but nothing much. I will be using this instead of a ps4/xbone so I want to be able to run next gen games well, probably upgrade in say 4/5 years.

TL:DR: Nearer to 600 without a big drop in performance is preferable, don't want to overclock, using for gaming, already have windows, want good performance when running next gen games, any changes?

Any and all help is appreciated, if you have any further questions I'll try and answer as quickly and accurately as possible :)

Many thanks!

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1ONLg) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1ONLg/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1ONLg/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox) | £106.79 @ Aria PC

**Motherboard** | [ASRock 990FX Extreme3 ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-990fxextreme3) | £79.64 @ Dabs

**Memory** | [Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmv8gx3m1a1333c9) | £46.85 @ Amazon UK

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | £48.80 @ Amazon UK

**Video Card** | [Asus Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-video-card-matrixhd7970p3gd5) | £259.99 @ Ebuyer

**Case** | [Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-z11plus) | £49.01 @ Ebuyer

**Case Fan** | [Zalman ZM - F3 120mm Fan](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-fan-zmf3) | £4.45 @ Scan.co.uk

**Other**| Fan controller - Ebay| £10.00

**Other**| External CD/DVD/Blu-Ray R/W - Ebay| £17.00

**Other**| 4x 120mm + 2x 80mm dust filters - Ebay| £7.50

**Other**| Cooler Master GX-Series 550W PSU - Amazon| £59.83

| | **Total**

| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | £689.86

| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-15 14:55 BST+0100 |

#2 Edited by Falconoffury (1717 posts) -

This looks like a pretty solid budget build to me, if you don't plan to overclock. You may need to upgrade in 2 or 3 years if you want to stay on the cutting edge, but that's ok.

#3 Edited by jhonMalcovich (4348 posts) -

@O0mix0O: I would get a better CPU, like an FX8350 or i5 4670k. And you´d better buy a new 300$ Radeon GPU which is equivalent to HD 7970 GHz Editio, but supports new Mantle API

#4 Posted by kraken2109 (12950 posts) -

Generally speaking it's better to have 2 sticks of ram rather than one so they run in dual channel. This increases bandwidth but doesn't tend to make a huge difference to be honest.

#5 Edited by PredatorRules (7061 posts) -

I'd like to suggest replacing the GPU, HD7970 to R9 280X it's the same card but it cost less, and like @jhonMalcovich already mentioned it will support mental the new feature for upcoming games such as Battlefield 4 etc.

#6 Edited by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

Hi all, many thanks for you suggestions :)

@2. I'm kind of strapped for cash at the minute so I don't mind having to upgrade in a few years :)

@3. Again, pretty broke, even a jump of £30 is too much tbh. I am planning to drop the card to an R9 280x.

@4. I'm not that bothered about 1/2 stick debates but it's good to know thanks :) I heard that a bit ago there was an explosion at a RAM factory causing RAM to sell quicker and rise in price. I wanted to drop the RAM to something about £40 but it's all sold out, the build below is the cheapest RAM in stock atm :(

@5. I've been recommended this card by a few others as well, thanks.

Due to friends/forum suggestions I've created this amended build:

[PCPartPicker part list](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1PyFa) / [Price breakdown by merchant](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1PyFa/by_merchant/) / [Benchmarks](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1PyFa/benchmarks/)

Type|Item|Price

:----|:----|:----

**CPU** | [AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8320frhkbox) | £106.79 @ Aria PC

**Motherboard** | [Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga970aud3) | £71.96 @ Scan.co.uk

**Memory** | [Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-memory-bls8g3d1609ds1s00) | £57.47 @ Amazon UK

**Storage** | [Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd10ezex) | £48.80 @ Amazon UK

**Video Card** | [Gigabyte Radeon R9 280X 3GB Video Card](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr928xoc3gd) | £235.68 @ Dabs

**Case** | [Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-z11plus) | £49.98 @ Amazon UK

**Case Fan** | [Zalman ZM - F3 120mm Fan](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/zalman-case-fan-zmf3) | £4.91 @ Amazon UK

**Power Supply** | [EVGA 600B 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply](http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr) | £48.72 @ Scan.co.uk

**Other**| Fan controller - Ebay| £10.00

**Other**| External CD/DVD/Blu-Ray R/W - Ebay| £17.00

**Other**| 4x 120mm + 2x 80mm dust filters - Ebay| £7.50

| | **Total**

| Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available. | £658.81

| Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-10-16 20:35 BST+0100 |

#7 Posted by PredatorRules (7061 posts) -

@O0mix0O: Don't forget about CPU fan, you might want to invest some money on that. You don't want to burn your CPU in very long heavy gaming sessions after half year or so... I'd go with Noctua U12P or C14

#8 Posted by superclocked (5823 posts) -
#9 Posted by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

Will I really need a CPU cooler? I didn't think it would get hot enough to need one? I won't be OCing it + I have 6 fans :P

#10 Edited by superclocked (5823 posts) -

@O0mix0O said:

Will I really need a CPU cooler? I didn't think it would get hot enough to need one? I won't be OCing it + I have 6 fans :P

Only if you plan on overclocking. If not, the stock cooler will work fine...

#11 Posted by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

@O0mix0O said:

Will I really need a CPU cooler? I didn't think it would get hot enough to need one? I won't be OCing it + I have 6 fans :P

Only if you plan on overclocking. If not, the stock cooler will work fine...

Awesome, the only thing I might OC is the graphics card :)

#12 Edited by kraken2109 (12950 posts) -

Why an external disc drive?

#13 Posted by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

@kraken2109: I hardly use discs but I know I'll need one for OS install, antivirus, EA games, other software etc. And the difference between an external dvd drive and a blu ray drive is £5 so I thought I'd get that so I can build up a blu ray collection. If I had an internal one it's taking up room, blocking airflow etc. and it's not worth it for the little I'll use it :)

#14 Posted by SuperMassive20 (176 posts) -

@O0mix0O: sounds like a reasonable build, good decision on the external too, I would recommend a small SSD if your budget can take it just for booting purposes etc, makes a massive difference

#15 Edited by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

@O0mix0O: sounds like a reasonable build, good decision on the external too, I would recommend a small SSD if your budget can take it just for booting purposes etc, makes a massive difference

Thanks :) I'm really trying to bring it to £600 tbh. I think maybe early next year I'll pick up an SSD like you suggested just for the OS and maybe one or two games. I also aim to pick up another 8GB ram by summer (Y)

#16 Posted by SuperMassive20 (176 posts) -

@O0mix0O said:

@SuperMassive20 said:

@O0mix0O: sounds like a reasonable build, good decision on the external too, I would recommend a small SSD if your budget can take it just for booting purposes etc, makes a massive difference

Thanks :) I'm really trying to bring it to £600 tbh. I think maybe early next year I'll pick up an SSD like you suggested just for the OS and maybe one or two games. I also aim to pick up another 8GB ram by summer (Y)

sounds good, can add me on steam if you like when you're up and running, names same as username here ;)

#17 Posted by O0mix0O (136 posts) -
#18 Posted by 115GamingUK (6 posts) -

If you live in the UK, go to www.computerplanet.com

I just bought one fro there for £615, it had the amd radeon 7950 graphics card with free bioshock infinite game, the amd 6300 cpu 8GB of RAM, they'll build it for you and prices are similar to prices from amazon/ebay etc.

#19 Edited by O0mix0O (136 posts) -

@115gaminguk: Thanks for the response. I had a look but they're at least £100 more than building it myself, and that was compromising with some parts :/

#20 Posted by godzillavskong (7891 posts) -

What about upping the ram speed and getting 1866mhz instead? I don't think it would really cost much more. I know that cpu you picked out supports that speed ram. Then again, I don't know if you would really see that big of a difference.

#21 Posted by ZombieKiller7 (6194 posts) -

Random thoughts

1. There is a good reason the i5 is popular for gaming, it features turbo boost, which kicks the cpu into a higher speed when you're using 1-2 cores. Most games only use 1-2 cores, very few use more. 8 cores might be useful for certain apps but for gaming it's wasted. For the sake of long-term viability I would build the system around an i5, even if it means cheaping out on the GPU, over the long term this is the correct course of action, as the heart of the system, the CPU and mobo, will at least be solid for a long, long time.

2. Mobo I would go lower end, just make sure it has 2 PCIE 3.0 slots for future proofing and you're golden. Look at the customer reviews and let that guide you, try to get something with a high rating, cheap and with alot of reviews, that means alot of people bought it, they usually know something you don't. Make sure the socket matches the CPU.

3. For RAM go for 2x4GB sticks, 1600 speed, make sure you place them in the correct slots to enable dual-channel.

4. GPU-wise, for a first build I would get a cheap, sub $100 GPU, it's miles better than integrated, not likely to overheat, you can play most games on high settings still, and best of all it serves as a backup GPU for the future, for example if you buy some fancy expensive card and it starts artifacting, it might take months to RMA it and get a replacement, you want something dependable and cheap as your first GPU as a baseline. Get something cheap on Ebay.