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#1  Edited By VanguardWarrior
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Hey guys. I'm building my 1st rig. I have a few goals I want to reach with it and I was wondering if it would be able to handle them.

1. I edit videos but most importantly I make music. I need something quick.

2. I want to be able to play games at super high settings for a few years before I have to upgrade.

3. I'd like to able to stream and record gameplay without too much lag.

I had a rig idea in mind but I'm not sure if it is right. My budget is $850. I'm considering $1,000 but I can't do anymore than that. It would have to include the monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

*Intel i5 4590 3.3 GHZ Quad Core

*AsRock H97M Anniversary ATX LGA1150

*GSkill RipJaws X Series 8GB DDR3-1600

*Sandisk Ultra Plus 128 GB SSD

*MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB ITX

*Rosewill FBM-02 Micro ATX

*Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified

*Windows 7 Home Premium

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#2 GTR12
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@VanguardWarrior:

No at case, it wont hold a ATX board.

Get a HDD, with a 850 budget, its hard to squeeze in a SSD.

760... get a 970 at least.

PSU, you will need to up it to a 550 watt quality one.

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#3  Edited By GeryGo  Moderator
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@VanguardWarrior said:

Hey guys. I'm building my 1st rig. I have a few goals I want to reach with it and I was wondering if it would be able to handle them.

1. I edit videos but most importantly I make music. I need something quick.

2. I want to be able to play games at super high settings for a few years before I have to upgrade.

3. I'd like to able to stream and record gameplay without too much lag.

I had a rig idea in mind but I'm not sure if it is right. My budget is $850. I'm considering $1,000 but I can't do anymore than that. It would have to include the monitor, keyboard, and mouse.

*Intel i5 4590 3.3 GHZ Quad Core

*AsRock H97M Anniversary ATX LGA1150

*GSkill RipJaws X Series 8GB DDR3-1600

*Sandisk Ultra Plus 128 GB SSD

*MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB ITX

*Rosewill FBM-02 Micro ATX

*Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified

*Windows 7 Home Premium

You're in trouble here, what do you prefer more? gaming or editing? because you're not be able to do both on "super high" graphics for few years from now.

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/dell-monitor-u2913wm this is a monitor for editors - it's cost alone about 500$.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/B469nQ this is what I was able to put with a 1000$ budget, as you see I'm stuck with a 120$ for the GPU, and that's after I've downgraded the 2Tb into 1Tb HDD.

You've got to tell me what you prefer more, either high graphics or editing.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N7fwD3 this is my final build < it's the mix of both worlds - with GPU powerful enough and AMD FX8XXX series are good at processing so that would be the closest call to i7, if you could squeeze 30$ more I could pick GTX970 which will perform way better.

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#4 GTR12
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@PredatorRules:

Editing music, not video ;)

Music isn't that demanding, I'm assuming a gaming rig can easily handle music, there's no HT used or much RAM at all if any, but a sound card may help.

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@GTR12 said:

@PredatorRules:

Editing music, not video ;)

Music isn't that demanding, I'm assuming a gaming rig can easily handle music, there's no HT used or much RAM at all if any, but a sound card may help.

"3. I'd like to able to stream and record gameplay without too much lag."

I'm sorry but he's asking alot for such small budget, I would'nt get any near that demands with 1k budget, with 2k we could speak more professionally. (AKA i7, SSD and a sound card)

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@PredatorRules said:

@GTR12 said:

@PredatorRules:

Editing music, not video ;)

Music isn't that demanding, I'm assuming a gaming rig can easily handle music, there's no HT used or much RAM at all if any, but a sound card may help.

"3. I'd like to able to stream and record gameplay without too much lag."

I'm sorry but he's asking alot for such small budget, I would'nt get any near that demands with 1k budget, with 2k we could speak more professionally. (AKA i7, SSD and a sound card)

Oops, forgot that, I don't think recording is too taxing on the GPU anyway, people record stuff on youtube all the time, and they might lose 5fps at most probably.

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@GTR12 said:

@PredatorRules said:

@GTR12 said:

@PredatorRules:

Editing music, not video ;)

Music isn't that demanding, I'm assuming a gaming rig can easily handle music, there's no HT used or much RAM at all if any, but a sound card may help.

"3. I'd like to able to stream and record gameplay without too much lag."

I'm sorry but he's asking alot for such small budget, I would'nt get any near that demands with 1k budget, with 2k we could speak more professionally. (AKA i7, SSD and a sound card)

Oops, forgot that, I don't think recording is too taxing on the GPU anyway, people record stuff on youtube all the time, and they might lose 5fps at most probably.

I know TotalBiscuit uses 2x Titans and he prefers them instead of 780ti because he's doing his shows and record/upload them to YouTube and i7 4770K which now upgraded into 5960X as present from Intel.

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@PredatorRules said:

I know TotalBiscuit uses 2x Titans and he prefers them instead of 780ti because he's doing his shows and record/upload them to YouTube and i7 4770K which now upgraded into 5960X as present from Intel.

Resolution of his monitor(s) will be big, if not other scenarios.

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Since you want to edit videos you might want something like this:

It has a 4core Xeon with HT (same as 4770), 8GB RAM and GTX760.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H9hfVn

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/H9hfVn/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.94 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ NCIX US)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.00 @ Newegg)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($56.99 @ Micro Center)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 2GB ACX Video Card ($208.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: Xigmatek Recon ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.98 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Amazon)

Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.26 @ OutletPC)

Monitor: Acer H236HLbid 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($129.99 @ Best Buy)

Total: $1025.11

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-09-27 04:58 EDT-0400

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#10  Edited By VanguardWarrior
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@PredatorRules: Guess gaming is more important. I'm not editing a big budget movie or even something like a big name commentator would do. Just a simple podcast and occasionally recording some gameplay footage. I'd say the most important editing it would do is making music videos. I'm willing to jump to 1,000.

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@VanguardWarrior said:

@PredatorRules: Guess gaming is more important. I'm not editing a big budget movie or even something like a big name commentator would do. Just a simple podcast and occasionally recording some gameplay footage. I'd say the most important editing it would do is making music videos. I'm willing to jump to 1,000.

Oh, ok > http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6ZjdMp so I think this would be the best for you.

It's just that i7 or FX8XXX series along with 16Gb of RAM would make video editing much faster, I know so for sure because compressing/encoding those someb^tches takes about an hour - depends on the length of the video.

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@PredatorRules: I like this one. I was also looking at another one. It's already been built, but I want to build my own pc. What do you think about this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-AG3-605-UR1D-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00K0K9O3E/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1411861609&sr=8-15&keywords=gaming+pc#productDetails

i7 under a grand. All I'd have to do is grab a monitor and I'd be set.

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@VanguardWarrior said:

@PredatorRules: I like this one. I was also looking at another one. It's already been built, but I want to build my own pc. What do you think about this one?

http://www.amazon.com/Acer-Predator-AG3-605-UR1D-Desktop-Processor/dp/B00K0K9O3E/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1411861609&sr=8-15&keywords=gaming+pc#productDetails

i7 under a grand. All I'd have to do is grab a monitor and I'd be set.

"Intel Core i7-4770 3.4 GHz Processor (6 MB cache)", "12 GB DDR3 RAM", "NVIDIA GeForce GTX760 Graphics with 1.5GB of Discrete Video Memory" and entire system costs $959.99?

Stay away from this overpriced Frankenstein's monster... :P

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@PredatorRules: I think I'm gonna go with this one. I forgot one small problem. My router is in my living room and the computer will be in my room. I'll need a wireless connection. How much would extra would that be?

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@VanguardWarrior said:

@PredatorRules: I think I'm gonna go with this one. I forgot one small problem. My router is in my living room and the computer will be in my room. I'll need a wireless connection. How much would extra would that be?

20$ for a reciever, that PC that you've picked is good if you don't want to build it yourself.

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@Coseniath: You sure? I'm not 100 percent familiar with some of the terms but it looks really good.

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#17  Edited By Coseniath
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@VanguardWarrior said:

@Coseniath: You sure? I'm not 100 percent familiar with some of the terms but it looks really good.

"Intel Core i7-4770 3.4 GHz Processor (6 MB cache)". i7 4770 has 8MB cahce. Only i5 models have 6MB cahce. So which one is it? Intel® Core™ i7-4770 Processor (8M Cache, up to 3.90 GHz)

"12 GB DDR3 RAM" They possible used 2x4GB and 2x2GB models, which means they used all slots (if you want to upgrade to 16GB you will have to remove these 2x2GB) and they charge you for 2x2GB which is useless at the moment.

"NVIDIA GeForce GTX760 Graphics with 1.5GB of Discrete Video Memory" This is an OEM GPU with only 1,5GB VRAM. This will surely limit a lot of games. Its like the GTX660 OEM which both have only 192bit GDRR5 and only 1,5GB (some times they have 3GB but not in this case). Not to mention that is a bad timing to buy a GTX760 since in a couple of weeks GTX960 will be released at the same price.

For $965 you can definitely build or buy a better gaming rig.

edit: Since you don't want to build one... Check this. Its the same on both amazon and newegg.

Lenovo K450E 57327389 Desktop PC newegg

Lenovo IdeaCentre K450e Desktop (57327389) Black Amazon

Same price, faster CPU, and the proper GTX760....

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#18  Edited By VanguardWarrior
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@Coseniath: One last question, is this the best I can do with that price? If I built it myself could I do better? I'm really liking this one. Thank you again for the help.

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@VanguardWarrior said:

@Coseniath: One last question, is this the best I can do with that price? If I built it myself could I do better? I'm really liking this one. Thank you again for the help.

Its very difficult but if you want to spend $50-60 more while building yourself you can add a GTX970, a better PSU and some other parts but lower RAM. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mDT2jX

If you would build it yourself a similar system GTX760 and all other parts but lower RAM it would cost $60 less. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WQx7Mp

Its a nice offer which in the begining it costed $1200 thats why its difficult to counter it...

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#20 VanguardWarrior
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@Coseniath: Thank you all very much! I finally have a strong computer. Can't wait for it to get here.