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#151 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

i am trying to buy a new computer and have been going over this thread over and over but im still not sure if i have all i need and its making me feel like a dumbass considering that ive gone over this thread so many times but my question is are these parts all compatable i know this isnt a super computer or anything but i dont have much cash right now so here are the parts

Tower:Raidmax SCORPIO Gaming 886 with 420w power supply
Motherboard:ASRock P43DE ATX Intel LGA775 with sound and internet card built-in
Ram:GeIL 2GB Value PC2-6400
Video Card:Force3D Radeon HD5750 1GB GDDR5
CD Driver:Sony NEC DVD-player SATA
Processor:Pentium Dual Core E6500 Wolfdale (OEM)
2.93GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2MB
Hard Drive:Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA2

and here are the links for the parts (i higly doubt you will be able to understand what it says)

http://www.computer.is/vorur/5041/
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=611
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=1038
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=1091
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=1209
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=710
http://www.kisildalur.is/?p=2&id=1299

blaze3339
Everything looks like it should be compatible. But a few suggestions I would have are: -If you're trying to make a budget build, AMD will almost certainly be a better route to take than Intel, as Intel is usually more expensive for their performance -I tend to not trust cases with packed in power supplies, its almost hard to imagine how cheap the quality of either the case or the psu will be if you divide the total price you're paying for the bundle in half. -If you're making a budget build, you might want to consider something from Ati's 48** series. I'm not sure how available they are in Iceland, but I know here they still offer really good performance for their price, especially the 4850.
#152 Posted by 1upMushroomX6 (831 posts) -

you think after all of those nice computers... you could buy some decent chairs

btw. nice thread it help lots

#153 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

you think after all of those nice computers... you could buy some decent chairs

btw. nice thread it help lots

1upMushroomX6
lol those aren't all my computers, they're actually owned by my different friends, I just put them together. And the chars are just from a card table set :)
#154 Posted by TrilbyHat (462 posts) -

I know I should probably make a seperate thread for this, but to be honest I feel better asking you. It's probably stupid question too so I apologize:

I can't find the XFX Radeon HD 4850 or 512MBAMD Athlon 64 X@ 5200 Brisbane 2.7GHz anywhere, I'm going to assume either they either sell out really fast or have been discontinued. What would be a good substitue for them?

#155 Posted by laliberte11 (4246 posts) -

I'm liking that orange case, does it come with the rails or do i have to buy them seperatley?

#156 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

I know I should probably make a seperate thread for this, but to be honest I feel better asking you. It's probably stupid question too so I apologize:

I can't find the XFX Radeon HD 4850 or 512MBAMD Athlon 64 X@ 5200 Brisbane 2.7GHz anywhere, I'm going to assume either they either sell out really fast or have been discontinued. What would be a good substitue for them?

TrilbyHat
That exact version of the XFX 4850 isn't being sold anymore as far as I know, but you can find a similar model here. I don't believe the Athlon 5200 is being sold anymore, but if you're lucky you might be able to find left over stock somewhere.
#157 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

I'm liking that orange case, does it come with the rails or do i have to buy them seperatley?

laliberte11
The case comes with the hard drive mounting rails.
#158 Posted by theivingbullet (4 posts) -
How bout wireless? I've always used integrated wireless cards. So I'm wondering how to make the rig wireless for my first build.
#159 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -
How bout wireless? I've always used integrated wireless cards. So I'm wondering how to make the rig wireless for my first build.theivingbullet
All you need is a PCI or USB wireless adapter. This is the one I use.
#161 Posted by MoldySasquatch (604 posts) -

lol LAN PARTY!

#162 Posted by chandu83 (5185 posts) -
Amazing. Thanks a lot for the effort.
#163 Posted by Meat_Wad_Fan (9053 posts) -

These are the items I put together from newegg, please let me know if they will all work together. I would really appreciate some advice on what I should change, I started with a smaller budget but I kinda let it go. Can you tell me how much of a performance difference there is between the gtx 460 768MB and gtx 460 1gb? Is the extra $30 worth it?


Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W PSU

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL

NZXT M59 - 001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

* Sub Total = $825- $35 MIR

*** Grand Total = $790

#164 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

These are the items I put together from newegg, please let me know if they will all work together. I would really appreciate some advice on what I should change, I started with a smaller budget but I kinda let it go. Can you tell me how much of a performance difference there is between the gtx 460 768MB and gtx 460 1gb? Is the extra $30 worth it?


Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB

ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W PSU

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600)

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL

NZXT M59 - 001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

* Sub Total = $825- $35 MIR

*** Grand Total = $790

Meat_Wad_Fan
A couple things: 1) The performance difference between the 768MB and 1GB GTX 460 is mostly determined by the resolution you plan on running. At higher resolutions (> 1680x1050) the 1GB version would probably a worthy investment. If your monitor is less than 1680x1050, then the 768MB will be fine. 2) The DVD drive you picked out is an older style IDE drive. That means it uses the old big ribbon to plug into the motherboard instead of the now standard sata cables. Try filtering the results on newegg by SATA interface. 3) I'm a little hesitant to recommend Asus AM3 boards right now, because the last one I had to work with wouldn't post regularly unless I manually set the RAM timings. If you are a beginner this might be a little over your head, so you might try a Gigabyte board instead, since they also tend to have better labeled front panel connections. Other than those observations the types of parts you picked out should work well together and it will end up to be a solid rig.
#165 Posted by ggnome213 (97 posts) -
Great looking guide, not sure if it'll work in practice but I'll trust it whenever I start building my own computer. (after my current stock machine goes out that is)
#166 Posted by btdownloads (8 posts) -
yes, a DIY PC is always the best. u can change it whenever u like. Im having a notebook now, not happy
#167 Posted by Meat_Wad_Fan (9053 posts) -

Been working on putting together my first computer, going on 4 hours. I got up to the part of hooking up my gpu and motherboard to the psu. All the other cables weren't so obvious for me. I know I have two case fans, my hdd, and dvd drive to hook up to my psu, and then I have to do some sata connections. I'm gonna go to sleep and continue tomorrow.

#168 Posted by Meat_Wad_Fan (9053 posts) -

Thanks so much for putting together this step by step guide. This was my first time building a computer, following this guide and with your additional support I was finally able to get it all running. Can't thank you enough and all the others here who helped out along the way!

#169 Posted by Sokol4ever (6305 posts) -

Phenomenal guide, thank you very much for all the effort into writing up all the steps. I'm planning to upgrade my CPU but I never did it before other then video card and memory swaps and I was little intimidated not to do it incorrectly or damage the CPU.

Thanks again, I'll do some video research as well. ;)

#170 Posted by medbuoy (3 posts) -
great..thanks for sharing.
#171 Posted by POkemonfreak101 (451 posts) -

so if I were to upgrade the gpu used in this guide (the same kind, but with 1GB instead of 512MB) and upgrade the RAM to either 4 or 8 GB, and use the other components used in this guide, would it max out current games out as well as stay in good performance for at least a few years to come? Thanks

#172 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

so if I were to upgrade the gpu used in this guide (the same kind, but with 1GB instead of 512MB) and upgrade the RAM to either 4 or 8 GB, and use the other components used in this guide, would it max out current games out as well as stay in good performance for at least a few years to come? Thanks

POkemonfreak101
More than likely, but unfortunately that particular CPU isn't sold any more and AMD's cheapest option is now Socket AM3. You will pretty much need to replace nearly every item in the example build because the parts have been replaced by newer models and aren't sold anymore.
#173 Posted by HavocV3 (7947 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156078-case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073- HDD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435- MOBO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251- RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251- DVD drive/PSU

******and I'm still figuring out which processor, that has to be AM3 socket-compliant.

**edit, and Windows 7, I can get that for $30 with my student e-mail though.

so I'm missing an OS and CPU thus far

and I think the HDD does not include a SATA cable, but I found a $15 coupon for the specific model, so I figured it will be worthwhile.

thanks. hope I didn't fudge it up too much....:(

#174 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156078-case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136073- HDD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128435- MOBO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251- RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145251- DVD drive/PSU

******and I'm still figuring out which processor, that has to be AM3 socket-compliant.

**edit, and Windows 7, I can get that for $30 with my student e-mail though.

so I'm missing an OS and CPU thus far

and I think the HDD does not include a SATA cable, but I found a $15 coupon for the specific model, so I figured it will be worthwhile.

thanks. hope I didn't fudge it up too much....:(

HavocV3
So far everything looks good, that motherboard is a bit expensive if you aren't planning on running two video cards you can probably get a cheaper option and not miss out on anything. (Also you will need to get an ATi card if you plan on keeping that motherboard and running two graphics cards in the future.) For the CPU you can pretty much pick anything in this list that fits in your budget, just remember that any CPU pictured without a box will not come with a heat-sink. You will also need a graphics card. I recommend the following in this order from least expensive to most expensive (pick whichever fits in your budget, but remember that the graphics card is the most important part of the build for gaming, so you might want to adjust your budget accordingly if you are close to getting a better model): Radeon 5750 Radeon 5770 Nvidia GTX 460 Radeon 5850 Radeon 5870 Nvidia GTX 480 -I couldn't see your selected power supply, so I can't comment on it. -SATA cables are included with the motherboard.
#175 Posted by ThaT-Masta (7720 posts) -

I made a thread a little while ago asking for advice on the build I had picked out, and I didn't want to make another since I made some changes so I decided to post here. But first, this will be my first time building a computer from scratch, and this guide has helped, so thanks for posting this. Now, what is your opinion on the parts I have picked out?

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130566
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
MOBO: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=131-GT-E767-TR
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Disk Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151216

#176 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

I made a thread a little while ago asking for advice on the build I had picked out, and I didn't want to make another since I made some changes so I decided to post here. But first, this will be my first time building a computer from scratch, and this guide has helped, so thanks for posting this. Now, what is your opinion on the parts I have picked out?

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130566
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145224
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010
MOBO: http://www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=131-GT-E767-TR
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181
Disk Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151216

ThaT-Masta
Looks great, though IIRC you could probably get the i7 920 for a bit cheaper and not see a noticable difference or you will be able to overclock slightly to make up the difference. Also I assume you have a case picked out?
#177 Posted by ThaT-Masta (7720 posts) -

Looks great, though IIRC you could probably get the i7 920 for a bit cheaper and not see a noticable difference or you will be able to overclock slightly to make up the difference. Also I assume you have a case picked out?General_X

I don't think the 920 is sold anymore. But I don't plan on overclocking right away. Also, I'm still looking at the cases.

#178 Posted by criinok (1478 posts) -

About how much would the products in the first post be now? The setup seems great for the gaming that I want to do, thanks for doing all of it

#179 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

About how much would the products in the first post be now? The setup seems great for the gaming that I want to do, thanks for doing all of it

criinok
They would be even cheaper now, the problem would be finding them, as almost none of them are sold at retail anymore.
#180 Posted by criinok (1478 posts) -

[QUOTE="criinok"]

About how much would the products in the first post be now? The setup seems great for the gaming that I want to do, thanks for doing all of it

General_X

They would be even cheaper now, the problem would be finding them, as almost none of them are sold at retail anymore.

Hmm.. I suppose in the next month as I save up for this stuff I could look around. Wouldn't Newegg be a great spot to find all of them, though? I don't know much about the site, but you'd think they'd have older products too

#181 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="criinok"]

About how much would the products in the first post be now? The setup seems great for the gaming that I want to do, thanks for doing all of it

criinok

They would be even cheaper now, the problem would be finding them, as almost none of them are sold at retail anymore.

Hmm.. I suppose in the next month as I save up for this stuff I could look around. Wouldn't Newegg be a great spot to find all of them, though? I don't know much about the site, but you'd think they'd have older products too

Newegg is a great place to buy from, but unfortunately it too has phased out nearly all of those parts, you can find similar parts, but IIRC they only sell OEM versions of AM2 cpu's now, so the cost of buying a heatsink seperate will negate any savings. Which means you will probably have to go the AM3 route, which usually means a slightly more expensive motherboard and DDR3 RAM.
#182 Posted by criinok (1478 posts) -

[QUOTE="criinok"]

[QUOTE="General_X"]They would be even cheaper now, the problem would be finding them, as almost none of them are sold at retail anymore.General_X

Hmm.. I suppose in the next month as I save up for this stuff I could look around. Wouldn't Newegg be a great spot to find all of them, though? I don't know much about the site, but you'd think they'd have older products too

Newegg is a great place to buy from, but unfortunately it too has phased out nearly all of those parts, you can find similar parts, but IIRC they only sell OEM versions of AM2 cpu's now, so the cost of buying a heatsink seperate will negate any savings. Which means you will probably have to go the AM3 route, which usually means a slightly more expensive motherboard and DDR3 RAM.

Damn :( This will greatly complicate my process since I know nothing about computers. I guess this will be a good learning process for me, then

#183 Posted by vicscrape (328 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121367

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136177

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004&cm_re=full_tower-_-11-166-004-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

This was what I picked out from newegg. Do you think this'll work? This is my first time building a PC so I don't even know if these parts will work with each other.

And thanks for the great guide!

#184 Posted by HavocV3 (7947 posts) -

well, I built my rig. and I really didn't have too many problems. the processor was such a breeze too, I was relieved , except the heatsink mounting was a pain in the ass.

have Windows 7 ready to go too. biggest problem I had was getting the 5.25'' plate off for the DVD bay:lol: it was so sad on my part, but my case had such a confusing bezel. it doesn't come off like other cases, so I did plenty of useless net rummaging there.

just need to get some wires organized and tied appropriately and pick out a GPU in the coming months, and I'll be 100% good to go.

so thanks for the guide and advice General X, and thanks to the one poster who helped me with a better mobo alternative in my one thread.

think I learned a lot:)

#185 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131631

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121367

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171053

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134792

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136177

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811166004&cm_re=full_tower-_-11-166-004-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727

This was what I picked out from newegg. Do you think this'll work? This is my first time building a PC so I don't even know if these parts will work with each other.

And thanks for the great guide!

vicscrape
Everything looks like it'll work great together, I just have a couple concerns. First the quality of that hard drive seems to be a little iffy, and second that case you've picked out is a Full Tower case, which means it is really really big, most people don't need full towers so double check if you have the room for it.

well, I built my rig. and I really didn't have too many problems. the processor was such a breeze too, I was relieved , except the heatsink mounting was a pain in the ass.

have Windows 7 ready to go too. biggest problem I had was getting the 5.25'' plate off for the DVD bay:lol: it was so sad on my part, but my case had such a confusing bezel. it doesn't come off like other cases, so I did plenty of useless net rummaging there.

just need to get some wires organized and tied appropriately and pick out a GPU in the coming months, and I'll be 100% good to go.

so thanks for the guide and advice General X, and thanks to the one poster who helped me with a better mobo alternative in my one thread.

think I learned a lot:)

HavocV3
You're very welcome.
#186 Posted by TheNagaMoris (26 posts) -
Silly question since I'm a noob but do those blue LED's come with the case?
#187 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -
Silly question since I'm a noob but do those blue LED's come with the case?TheNagaMoris
Yep
#188 Posted by Numaholic (30 posts) -

For my next computer I might come here. Good thread!

#189 Posted by softchickenugge (52 posts) -

I have that same mobo right now =D

#190 Posted by paladinqueen (509 posts) -

[QUOTE="Duckman5"]

Amazing thread. Major props to you. Sticky request!

Gamartto

Nicely done!!!

good ,funny,,,,
#191 Posted by NoobletteToast (404 posts) -

Excellent thread!

#192 Posted by flipin_jackass (9726 posts) -

Alright, since no one's answering my thread, I'm posting here. I'm planning to get the PC set up below for my sister. She doesn't really game, so I decided to go for low-med end build. She plans to mostly for movies/TV, like an HTPC, but she doesn't really need a TV tuner, plus some of the HTPC cases seem very limiting. She is also planning to hook it up to her 32" HD TV, so I may actually be inclined to use it sometimes (lol), though I already have my own PC. I do want some room for upgrade in the future, which I why I put an Phenom II setup, DDR3 and a 550 PSU.

Any suggestions or changes you'd recommend?

The total is $664.20 CAD. With shipping and tax, it's $791.65 CAD. She had a budget of $1K, but I don't think she needed it considering she wants it for basic use, and she can just put more of the money on the the TV (which we will buy separately).

Case

HDD

PSU

OS

DVD Drive

GPU

M/KB

RAM

CPU + MoBo

#193 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -

Alright, since no one's answering my thread, I'm posting here. I'm planning to get the PC set up below for my sister. She doesn't really game, so I decided to go for low-med end build. She plans to mostly for movies/TV, like an HTPC, but she doesn't really need a TV tuner, plus some of the HTPC cases seem very limiting. She is also planning to hook it up to her 32" HD TV, so I may actually be inclined to use it sometimes (lol), though I already have my own PC. I do want some room for upgrade in the future, which I why I put an Phenom II setup, DDR3 and a 550 PSU.

Any suggestions or changes you'd recommend?

flipin_jackass
Looks fine to me. One minor thing is I'm sure you can find Windows 7 in a combo deal with one of the parts you picked out, or a similar part to shave off a couple more bucks.
#194 Posted by flipin_jackass (9726 posts) -

Thanks! I tried looking for a combo with Win 7 - but it was mostly with Mobo's for $15 savings. I tried to reconfigure, but I already have my CPU with the Mobo in combo for a $30 saving, so I think I'm better off. It sucks because I bought Window 7 last year for my own PC and opted for 1 liscence vs. 3. The three liscence was like only $30 more, but I didn't think I needed it.

Anyway, at least it did encourage me to seek out other combo's - I found this OCZ PSU/RAM combo which shaves off about $5. It's basically the same as my previous RAM, so I went with the combo.

I'm happy too that I have 4 mail in rebates now equalling $55. I don't know the reply rate to those, but Sapphire, Asus and OCZ seem reputable enough. Damn you Newegg and your irresistable deals! I just need the final thumbs up from my sister before checking out.

:)

#195 Posted by SoraX64 (29221 posts) -
This guide is great. :) I've read it through so many times that I've memorized it, and now I can build easily. :P
#196 Posted by sifatrabbi (6 posts) -
This is good .i like it.
#197 Posted by oobermensch (35 posts) -
Awesome guide! I'm sure it's going to be of great help to anyone who's just starting to realize their love for computers.
#198 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -
What's the difference between Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack and 3-pack?
#199 Posted by General_X (9032 posts) -
What's the difference between Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack and 3-pack?xsubtownerx
The 1 pack gives you a license that can only be used on a single computer at any given time. The 3 pack gives you 3 of these licenses to be used on three seperate computers. (Note: you can install the single pack on a different computer(s) in the future, but you're not allowed to use it on multiple computers simultaneously).
#200 Posted by xsubtownerx (10705 posts) -
[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]What's the difference between Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack and 3-pack?General_X
The 1 pack gives you a license that can only be used on a single computer at any given time. The 3 pack gives you 3 of these licenses to be used on three seperate computers. (Note: you can install the single pack on a different computer(s) in the future, but you're not allowed to use it on multiple computers simultaneously).

Awesome. Thanks for the answer!