PC wont power up whatsoever

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#1 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

basically iv just moved home and i tried powering up my pc but it wont even power up. The plug socket and the electricity is working fine too. Also, the speakers and monitor know that they're connected to my pc so there must be some sort of power going through the sytem. I've also tried turning on the pc with both sticks of RAM in individually.

Specs:

intel 3570k

asrock extreme4 mobo

corsair 650w psu 80 plus bronze

2x 7200rpm hdd's

corsair force 3 240gb ssd

#2 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

I doubt you have two bad sticks of RAM, although it could be possible. It sounds like either a dead power supply or motherboard. Although, I've never seen a Corsair PSU bite the dust. Have you tested the PSU with another computer?

#3 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

I doubt you have two bad sticks of RAM, although it could be possible. It sounds like either a dead power supply or motherboard. Although, I've never seen a Corsair PSU bite the dust. Have you tested the PSU with another computer?

bigfoot2045
the cpu and mobo are only 2 month old and my psu is over 2 year old. I don't have another pc to test it with.
#4 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

#5 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

bigfoot2045
I'm barely a noob, and I was on a tight budget and everyone was suggesting that motherboard and everyone seems to love Asrock, plus I haven't seen anyone have a problem with that motherboard yet. Not all of us can splash out on a fancy major high end product. Sometimes budget products are better. Asrock are a real brand, what else are they gonna be? Make believe? lol
#6 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

bigfoot2045

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

#7 Posted by GarGx1 (2701 posts) -

Check all the cable connections and make sure everything is seated properly. If the system got bumped while in transit it could be a cable or a piece of hardware has been knocked loose, definately take out your graphics card and reseat it, you've already done the RAM.

#8 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

Bebi_vegeta

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

#9 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

bigfoot2045

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

How is it cheap ? Did you even look at his mobo ?

Asrock has a range from low end to high end mobo... Just like another other mobo company.

Asrock is ranked 3rd for largest motherboard maker...

#10 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

Bebi_vegeta

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

Well I just disconnected it from the mains and took it to the back of my aunts car and she drove to the new house, that's about it. But for some reason my pc hates it when you disconnect it from the mains. Last time I did it, it reset all the BIOS settings, not a clue why, and it also wouldn't properly boot untill I reseated my graphics card and RAM, weird stuff.
#11 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

Check all the cable connections and make sure everything is seated properly. If the system got bumped while in transit it could be a cable or a piece of hardware has been knocked loose, definately take out your graphics card and reseat it, you've already done the RAM.

GarGx1
My graphics card isn't in my system at the moment. I'm not at home at the moment but when I get back tomorrow i'm gonna do a full reseat of everything. I had a look around the inside of the system, but only a quick look. I saw all of my front panel connections were connected properly, as were my psu connections. But yea, first thing tomorrow i'm doing a full reseat. Will report back with any changes.
#12 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

Physorac

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

Well I just disconnected it from the mains and took it to the back of my aunts car and she drove to the new house, that's about it. But for some reason my pc hates it when you disconnect it from the mains. Last time I did it, it reset all the BIOS settings, not a clue why, and it also wouldn't properly boot untill I reseated my graphics card and RAM, weird stuff.

And you didn't by any chance forget to swith the PSU to on ?

I guess you'll need to reseat everything again.

#13 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

[QUOTE="Physorac"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

Bebi_vegeta

Well I just disconnected it from the mains and took it to the back of my aunts car and she drove to the new house, that's about it. But for some reason my pc hates it when you disconnect it from the mains. Last time I did it, it reset all the BIOS settings, not a clue why, and it also wouldn't properly boot untill I reseated my graphics card and RAM, weird stuff.

And you didn't by any chance forget to swith the PSU to on ?

I guess you'll need to reseat everything again.

Lol yea it was on, I also tried around 4 different power cables, on different plug extensions and also directly into the wall socket.
#14 Posted by Obiwan_1O (286 posts) -

unplug the power cable, hold power button for 10 seconds, plug back in, turn on. worth a shot...

#15 Posted by Dream01 (79 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

bigfoot2045

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

lol troll be trolling.

#16 Posted by slipknot0129 (5491 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Asrock is kind of a ghetto brand though. I'd say it's far more likely an Asrock mobo died than a Corsair PSU. Why didn't you go with a real brand like Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, or Intel? I always find it amusing when n00bs buy a bunch of high-end components, and then go with some dumpster brand motherboard.

bigfoot2045

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

Only thing worse than a crappy motherboard is a computer thats not an Alienware.

#17 Posted by Dream01 (79 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

slipknot0129

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

Only thing worse than a crappy motherboard is a computer thats not an Alienware.

lol

#18 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Asrock is not a ghetto brand... it's a solid brand. Must be a reason why Asus would like to buy Asrock...

Either way TC, was it working before ? Did you change anything ?

Dream01

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

lol troll be trolling.

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

#19 Posted by spittis (1875 posts) -

[QUOTE="Dream01"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

bigfoot2045

lol troll be trolling.

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

I get the feeling you must be the same guy that were dead set on that everything OCZ makes is garbage. I don't know what you do with your hardware but obviously nothing normal.
#20 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="Dream01"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

The only thing worse than Asrock is ECS. Never buy a cheap motherboard, or this will happen to you.

bigfoot2045

lol troll be trolling.

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

I guess you think that Mercedes make trash cars, and Panasonic make crap plasmas?

#21 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Dream01"]

lol troll be trolling.

Daanyal

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

I guess you think that Mercedes make trash cars, and Panasonic make crap plasmas?

People still buy plasma TVs in this day and age?

Something like an Asus Sabertooth would be the equivalent of a Mercedes in the motherboard world. Asrock is the equivalent of a Hyundai or Kia. ECS is the equivalent of those Chinese cars that fold up like accordions after a 15mph impact.

#22 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Dream01"]

lol troll be trolling.

spittis

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

I get the feeling you must be the same guy that were dead set on that everything OCZ makes is garbage. I don't know what you do with your hardware but obviously nothing normal.

Indeed, everything OCZ makes is garbage. They're a dumpster brand. They made some of the worst RAM money could buy, and now they're making crap power supplies and flaky SSDs.

When you've been building your own PCs for 20 years like I have, there are certain brands you learn to avoid.

#23 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

bigfoot2045

I guess you think that Mercedes make trash cars, and Panasonic make crap plasmas?

People still buy plasma TVs in this day and age?

Something like an Asus Sabertooth would be the equivalent of a Mercedes in the motherboard world. Asrock is the equivalent of a Hyundai or Kia. ECS is the equivalent of those Chinese cars that fold up like accordions after a 15mph impact.

Yes, people still buy plasmas, because they offer a better pciture, with deeper blacks. AsRock would be the eqiuvalent of Honda. and I wouldn't argue bout cars with me, because I probably know a damn sight more than you.

#24 Posted by Daanyal (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="spittis"][QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

bigfoot2045

I get the feeling you must be the same guy that were dead set on that everything OCZ makes is garbage. I don't know what you do with your hardware but obviously nothing normal.

Indeed, everything OCZ makes is garbage. They're a dumpster brand. They made some of the worst RAM money could buy, and now they're making crap power supplies and flaky SSDs.

When you've been building your own PCs for 20 years like I have, there are certain brands you learn to avoid.

Flaky SSDs? I'm sorry, you've evidently never seen the OCZ Agility 4, or the OCZ Vertex 4, or the PCI-E range.

#25 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

I guess you think that Mercedes make trash cars, and Panasonic make crap plasmas?

Daanyal

People still buy plasma TVs in this day and age?

Something like an Asus Sabertooth would be the equivalent of a Mercedes in the motherboard world. Asrock is the equivalent of a Hyundai or Kia. ECS is the equivalent of those Chinese cars that fold up like accordions after a 15mph impact.

Yes, people still buy plasmas, because they offer a better pciture, with deeper blacks. AsRock would be the eqiuvalent of Honda. and I wouldn't argue bout cars with me, because I probably know a damn sight more than you.

Wow kid, you're just too cool for school then I guess.

I haven't heard of anyone still buying Plasma TVs in recent years as anything other than a budget alternative to LCDs. And yes, the OCZ SSDs have horribly flaky firmware. Just because you lucked out and got one that works doesn't mean they all do.

#26 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Daanyal"]

[QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

People still buy plasma TVs in this day and age?

Something like an Asus Sabertooth would be the equivalent of a Mercedes in the motherboard world. Asrock is the equivalent of a Hyundai or Kia. ECS is the equivalent of those Chinese cars that fold up like accordions after a 15mph impact.

bigfoot2045

Yes, people still buy plasmas, because they offer a better pciture, with deeper blacks. AsRock would be the eqiuvalent of Honda. and I wouldn't argue bout cars with me, because I probably know a damn sight more than you.

Wow kid, you're just too cool for school then I guess.

I haven't heard of anyone still buying Plasma TVs in recent years as anything other than a budget alternative to LCDs. And yes, the OCZ SSDs have horribly flaky firmware. Just because you lucked out and got one that works doesn't mean they all do.

Or maybe you're unlucky... I have OCZ agility 3 and it works fine, but I can't say the same thing about Crucial.

#27 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

Nope, took out the psu and the mobo and sat them on my desk and it's still not starting up or showing any form of life. I also tried another psu on it, no luck. Do you have to RMA Asrock mobo's through Asrock or the place of purchase?

#28 Posted by GarGx1 (2701 posts) -

[QUOTE="spittis"][QUOTE="bigfoot2045"]

Except I wasn't trolling. I'm dead serious about staying away from dumpster brands like Asrock and ECS. And I speak from experience.

bigfoot2045

I get the feeling you must be the same guy that were dead set on that everything OCZ makes is garbage. I don't know what you do with your hardware but obviously nothing normal.

Indeed, everything OCZ makes is garbage. They're a dumpster brand. They made some of the worst RAM money could buy, and now they're making crap power supplies and flaky SSDs.

When you've been building your own PCs for 20 years like I have, there are certain brands you learn to avoid.

You'll notice from my sig that I have an Asrock Z77 mobo in this rig and I built my first PC in 1990, before starting my software engineering degree. I very much choose hardware based on my experiences with the various manufacturers and my favorites are Asus and Corsair but I balance everything with cost. On another note I find it highly unlikely that Asus would risk their reputation by associating themselves with a crap brand and they do after all own Asrock.

Perhaps you've had a bad experience with them but don't think that everyone has. I've found them to be reliable and affordable, which is the perfect mix. Sure it ain't an Asus P8Z77 Premium with Thunderbolt but it also didn't cost £350. On top of that I think you'll struggle to find a bad review of their motherboards, I certainly haven't found any and I always check multiple reviews of all hardware components (especially if newly released or I haven't used them before) being used before building a system either for myself or someone else.

#29 Posted by GarGx1 (2701 posts) -

Nope, took out the psu and the mobo and sat them on my desk and it's still not starting up or showing any form of life. I also tried another psu on it, no luck. Do you have to RMA Asrock mobo's through Asrock or the place of purchase?

Physorac

Check with you're retailer first, they may want you to send it to them or they may even be able to sort the problem out, depends on the retailer though. I do have a horrible feeling that we're missing somthing simple!

#30 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

I don't know... I'm not sure if this is a mobo problem or PSU... is there anything that looks damaged ?

#31 Posted by bigfoot2045 (773 posts) -

I don't know... I'm not sure if this is a mobo problem or PSU... is there anything that looks damaged ?

Bebi_vegeta

He said he tried it with two different PSUs. It's that crappy ASSRock motherboard just like I said all along.

#32 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

I don't know... I'm not sure if this is a mobo problem or PSU... is there anything that looks damaged ?

bigfoot2045

He said he tried it with two different PSUs. It's that crappy ASSRock motherboard just like I said all along.

I guess Asus are going to be crappy after buying Asrock...:roll:

#33 Posted by Gammit10 (2268 posts) -
Try the paperclip trick on your PSU to see if it works. It's not 100%, but it should give you a basic idea if it is dead or not.
#34 Posted by Dream01 (79 posts) -

the power button could be broken?

I've seen some cases that short and aren't able to power the unit (by just pressing the button) up due to a short in the cable (the cable from the case to the mobo).

#35 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

the power button could be broken?

I've seen some cases that short and aren't able to power the unit (by just pressing the button) up due to a short in the cable (the cable from the case to the mobo).

Dream01
My mobo has an onboard power and reset button and I tried them.
#36 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

the power button could be broken?

I've seen some cases that short and aren't able to power the unit (by just pressing the button) up due to a short in the cable (the cable from the case to the mobo).

Dream01
My mobo has an onboard power and reset button and I tried them.

[QUOTE="Physorac"]

Nope, took out the psu and the mobo and sat them on my desk and it's still not starting up or showing any form of life. I also tried another psu on it, no luck. Do you have to RMA Asrock mobo's through Asrock or the place of purchase?

GarGx1

Check with you're retailer first, they may want you to send it to them or they may even be able to sort the problem out, depends on the retailer though. I do have a horrible feeling that we're missing somthing simple!

Yea I have that feeling too, I'm gonna take it down to the place of purchase today, they'll test it for me/send it back anyway. Thanks for the helpful tips anyway guys, greatly appreciated :) I'm hoping it's not my cpu too. It's a pretty sucky time for this to happen as my graphics card died a few week ago too and i'm awaiting for that to arrive from repairs. This isn't a good time for this to happen seeing as the new WoW expansion and Borderlands 2 has just come out :(
#37 Posted by Physorac (304 posts) -

Right, well, they tested it and nothing's wrong, so I took it home and everything's working fine. Well that was weird haha. Thank you for the tips anyway guys, greatly appreciated :)