Need help building a gaming desktop with the best possible specs (budget $3000)

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#1 Posted by Vizard666 (67 posts) -
I have no experience building a gaming desktop so I would like some help creating a new one. I would like to create one that would be able to max out graphics of all games for a decent amount of time. What required specs can you allocate with a budget of $3000? I was looking at the gtx titan gpu but I am sure if I get that, ill may fall short of other speccs ,certainly do not want a bottleneck either. I have heard people say that you can get a decent gaming setup for $800 but i doubt ,that will last for long. Had to re-post this to the hardware forum, did get some feedback to use half my budget on later upgrades in the future and $1500 on a current setup, so what specs would you suggest that could max out any game today, including battlefield 4 coming soon and other high end games(i know we do not have the spec requirement on that but its fine to speculate).
#2 Posted by General_X (9070 posts) -
did get some feedback to use half my budget on later upgrades in the future and $1500 on a current setup Vizard666
This is very good advice, I've made up a quick chart to visualize how performance gains get worse the more money you throw at it, this means that a $1500 computer now with $1500 worth of upgrades in th next 3-4 years will absolutely annihilate any $3000 computer you can buy now.  As for components, give me a sec and I'll work something up. Does this $1500-3000 budget include the price of peripherals such as monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers? Or is this purely for the tower?
#3 Posted by Vizard666 (67 posts) -
This is my current budget that I am willing to spend within a small time span, eventually my budget will increase as new upgrades come to market. Right now my budget is $3000 for everything. It would be great if you can build one for that price or lesser and be able to max out on mostly all games, as that is what I am looking for. I made a mistake buying a gaming laptop which are overly priced for the performance it offers, but i had no choice since i travel from university to home too often.
#4 Posted by RazorGR (1605 posts) -

[QUOTE="Vizard666"]did get some feedback to use half my budget on later upgrades in the future and $1500 on a current setup General_X
This is very good advice, I've made up a quick chart to visualize how performance gains get worse the more money you throw at it, this means that a $1500 computer now with $1500 worth of upgrades in th next 3-4 years will absolutely annihilate any $3000 computer you can buy now.  As for components, give me a sec and I'll work something up. Does this $1500-3000 budget include the price of peripherals such as monitor/keyboard/mouse/speakers? Or is this purely for the tower?

Listen to the General!

#5 Posted by wkwan (148 posts) -

processor - i7 3770k (~$300)
motherboard - Asrock z77 Extreme6/MSI Z77A-GD65 / Gigabyte (~$150)
psu - corsair AX850 (850W) (~$160)
gpu - Radeon HD 7970 3GB (~$400)
memory - Corsair/ Patriot 1*8GB DDR3 1600 (~$60)
case - Antec/CoolerMaster (~$100-$150)
DVD ROM ~$60
Hard disk - WD WD Black WDBAAZ0010HNC-NRSN 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" (~$120)
Monitor - 20in to 24in (~$100 - $200) / touchscreen ($300+)

total ~$1500 perfect...
using 1 $100 20in monitor (maybe you want dual monitor setup or touchscreen if you want to go all windows 8)
not including windows os, mouse, keyboard, webcam, speakers, blu-ray

future upgrades:
Add another 1*8gb RAM
add SSD (expensive ouch)
Crossfire (add same GPU)

other notes:
new generation intel (haswell) will be out in a couple of months, but its mostly power efficiency and an awesome integrated GPU. could wait if you want. for laptop it seems very good but desktop not necessary

#6 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6086 posts) -

processor - i7 3770k (~$300)
motherboard - Asrock z77 Extreme6/MSI Z77A-GD65 / Gigabyte (~$150)
psu - corsair AX850 (850W) (~$160)
gpu - Radeon HD 7970 3GB (~$400)
memory - Corsair/ Patriot 1*8GB DDR3 1600 (~$60)
case - Antec/CoolerMaster (~$100-$150)
DVD ROM ~$60
Hard disk - WD WD Black WDBAAZ0010HNC-NRSN 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" (~$120)
Monitor - 20in to 24in (~$100 - $200) / touchscreen ($300+)

total ~$1500 perfect...
using 1 $100 20in monitor (maybe you want dual monitor setup or touchscreen if you want to go all windows 8)
not including windows os, mouse, keyboard, webcam, speakers, blu-ray

future upgrades:
Add another 1*8gb RAM
add SSD (expensive ouch)
Crossfire (add same GPU)

other notes:
new generation intel (haswell) will be out in a couple of months, but its mostly power efficiency and an awesome integrated GPU. could wait if you want. for laptop it seems very good but desktop not necessary

wkwan

 

i agree, now you have $1500 left for hookers.  You'll have a badass computer and a hooker a day for 30 days!

#7 Posted by mastershake575 (8359 posts) -

Those people who say $800 rig can get you a good rig aren't lying. $800 could get you a gaming tower that includes an x6 @3.9ghz, at least 8gigs of ram, and an ati 7950 video card. That would easily max most games (to be honest my $650 tower from 2 years ago still plays most games on max). I'm not saying go spend $800 or less right now, im just trying to point out that game requirements aren't as bad as most people think (espically if your monitor is 1920x1080p or under).

I strongly agree with what the General is saying. I paid $650 just over two years ago and still play games great (thus spending more wouldn't of done me much good). I just bought an i7 with motherboard for $350 which bring my total to $1000 (I'm upgrading my GPU at the 3 year mark so $1300 is going to last me from 2011 to probably 2016 or 2017).

Back on topic I would get 16gigs of ddr3 ram which run anywhere from $90-115. For procesor i would get an intel i5 or i7 (both are very fast and overclock very well). Powersupply I recommend one from either seasonic, silverstone or corsair (if you want to run a multiple GPU setup than 750-900watts isn't uncommon). Case is depends on size. Good mid-towers run about $60-80. Full sized towers can run from $90-$150 depending on how many fans you want and if you care alot about appearance. Dvd drives are usually $20-30 and harddrives vary in price (depending on how much size you need and if you want a SSD drive). Motherboard varies on what processor you pick (intel uses multiple sockets depending on what generation the CPU is so I can't recommend anything yet). GPU varies greatly on your needs. Those who run super high resolutions (2560x1440p or 1600P) or run multiple monitors will want a faster card with alot of VRAM versus someone who only games at 1920x1080p or lower. Timing also plays a big factor on GPU selection. For example the next generation consoles are coming out this winter so there are going to be a new batch of cards (ati 8000 series and nvidia GTX 700 series) so its always good to keep your options open. I don't recommend playing the waiting game the whole time but its always good to know whats coming ahead (espically since you mentioned BF4 which I believe isn't even coming out for another year). If you had to buy now then I wouldn't recommend anything less than a 7970 or GTX 680 (given your higher budget)

#8 Posted by 04dcarraher (20219 posts) -
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#9 Posted by General_X (9070 posts) -
If I HAD to spend $3000 on a build, this is what I would get including peripherals:  Though there are a lot of things that can be dropped down to get similar performance (one 670 is enough for pretty much everything, a 3570k instead of a 3770k, etc.)
#10 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6086 posts) -

If I HAD to spend $3000 on a build, this is what I would get including peripherals:  Though there are a lot of things that can be dropped down to get similar performance (one 670 is enough for pretty much everything, a 3570k instead of a 3770k, etc.)General_X

 

damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.

#11 Posted by General_X (9070 posts) -
damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.blaznwiipspman1
SLI 670's with the best consumer grade processor available is far from what I would call "not even that good". Also once you throw peripherals in the mix it's pretty easy to spend a lot of money. (They're about $500 of the cost once you throw in a nice monitor, not the shitty Acer stuff)
#12 Posted by Vizard666 (67 posts) -
Well. yes i have tried combinations of builds that do not seem to work out as well as I would have expected. Sometimes it lands up to be way higher than my expected budget. I am receiving a lot of useful information here and I thank you all. I still am going to wait until a window opens to a better choice of graphics cards maybe the 700 series soon, currently I am no rush to build one, I am looking after my future prospects. Any more suggestions though would be brilliant and thanks for the build. Taking a look at it.
#13 Posted by kraken2109 (13181 posts) -

Spend ~$1200 on the tower and you won't need to upgrade for a good few years (by 'need' i simply mean you would have to start turning things off ultra...).

Then you can spend $200 on a nice monitor, and the other accessories are up to you.

#14 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6086 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.General_X
SLI 670's with the best consumer grade processor available is far from what I would call "not even that good". Also once you throw peripherals in the mix it's pretty easy to spend a lot of money. (They're about $500 of the cost once you throw in a nice monitor, not the shitty Acer stuff)

 

meh, for $3000, i expect a 3960k and sli 680/cf 7970, nothing less.

#15 Posted by Wolfetan (7522 posts) -

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.blaznwiipspman1

SLI 670's with the best consumer grade processor available is far from what I would call "not even that good". Also once you throw peripherals in the mix it's pretty easy to spend a lot of money. (They're about $500 of the cost once you throw in a nice monitor, not the shitty Acer stuff)

 

meh, for $3000, i expect a 3960k and sli 680/cf 7970, nothing less.

Yea, that build sucks. Its a thing called diminishing returns.
#16 Posted by General_X (9070 posts) -

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.blaznwiipspman1

SLI 670's with the best consumer grade processor available is far from what I would call "not even that good". Also once you throw peripherals in the mix it's pretty easy to spend a lot of money. (They're about $500 of the cost once you throw in a nice monitor, not the shitty Acer stuff)

 

meh, for $3000, i expect a 3960k and sli 680/cf 7970, nothing less.

It's $2400 after peripherals and OS and you're welcome to part it out, though I wouldn't recommend cheaping out on the PSU/motherboard/case in order to get the negligible performance gains a 3960k will give you over a 3770k. Granted the 4GB 670's with custom coolers I picked out could probably be swapped for 2GB 680's with the reference cooler for the same price if one was so inclined. Also a $2400 build is pretty much obligated to have an SSD.
#17 Posted by soolkiki (1776 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]damn, its pretty easy to spend $3000 on a build that isn't even that good.General_X
SLI 670's with the best consumer grade processor available is far from what I would call "not even that good". Also once you throw peripherals in the mix it's pretty easy to spend a lot of money. (They're about $500 of the cost once you throw in a nice monitor, not the shitty Acer stuff)

*strokes Acer moniter* He didn't mean it baby!!

#18 Posted by mastershake575 (8359 posts) -

Well. yes i have tried combinations of builds that do not seem to work out as well as I would have expectedVizard666
Overall there not bad. wkwan's build for example is $1300 for the tower in today's price and offers great performance (video card thats 50-65% faster than the rumored ps4's gpu, 8 gigs of ram, i7 which is a super fast cpu, nice case, powersupply that will offer more than enough power/is reliable, and a motherboard that will allow multiple gpu's at once/good overclocking abilities).

If you want to play pc games with the settings jacked up then it will last awhile (plus you can always add another 7970 when the price drops which is a good idea). If you just want to play games better than the consoles then its easily more than enough (consoles will be running 720/1080p with a 30fps cap on most games).