Just about to spend $1800. Am I wasting my money?

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#1 Posted by i_fate (39 posts) -

Trying to get some high end gaming rig, and here is what I have come up with:


CPU: Intel Core-i5 3570k ($219.99)
VGA: XFX Doiuble D Radeon HD 7970 3GB Black Edition ($419.99)
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws X 16GB ($89.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V Pro LGA 1155 ($207.99)
Case: CM Haf X ($179.99)
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung DVD Burner SATA Model -OEM ($17.99)
HDD: Samsung Sandpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM ($84.99)
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB ($149.99)
PSU: CM Silent Pro M700 Bronze Certified ($89.99)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($80.99)
Extra: NZXT Touch Screen Fan Controller ($24.99)




I'm also replacing original case fans to the aftermarket ones.
I am probably going to order 3 CM Megaflow 200mm LED fans for top and rear of the Haf X case,and I'm also going to get two more fans from Noctua (120mm and 140mm).

All of these came down to a little over $1,800 from newegg.


Yes, I play and want to play pretty hefty games, and I will be overclocking.

Budget? I am willing to spend money for high end gaming rig, but I just want to know if there is anything that I went way beyond

where I could have saved some money?

Thanks alot for the help guys.

#2 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6085 posts) -

Trying to get some high end gaming rig, and here is what I have come up with:


CPU: Intel Core-i5 3570k ($219.99)
VGA: XFX Doiuble D Radeon HD 7970 3GB Black Edition ($419.99)
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws X 16GB ($89.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V Pro LGA 1155 ($207.99)
Case: CM Haf X ($179.99)
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung DVD Burner SATA Model -OEM ($17.99)
HDD: Samsung Sandpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM ($84.99)
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB ($149.99)
PSU: CM Silent Pro M700 Bronze Certified ($89.99)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($80.99)
Extra: NZXT Touch Screen Fan Controller ($24.99)




I'm also replacing original case fans to the aftermarket ones.
I am probably going to order 3 CM Megaflow 200mm LED fans for top and rear of the Haf X case,and I'm also going to get two more fans from Noctua (120mm and 140mm).

All of these came down to a little over $1,800 from newegg.


Yes, I play and want to play pretty hefty games, and I will be overclocking.

Budget? I am willing to spend money for high end gaming rig, but I just want to know if there is anything that I went way beyond

where I could have saved some money?

Thanks alot for the help guys.

i_fate

you could save money by getting a lower end gpu. I lucked out and got my 7970 for $340 on sale at ncix, so check there. Get 8gb ram for $30, its more than enough. Drop down the mobo to the $150 price range, drop the SSD and go for a midtower case over a full tower.

#3 Posted by DJ_Headshot (6284 posts) -

Main things are going for a cheaper case,less ram(6gb is more then enough), a cheaper motherboard that supports oc, and cheaper cpu cooler(Cool master hyper 212+ is all you really need for air cooling) none of this will effect your performance in games although you might not be able to overclock as far with as low temps but you can't beat the price to performance ratio of the 212+.

#4 Posted by DJ_Headshot (6284 posts) -

[QUOTE="i_fate"]

Trying to get some high end gaming rig, and here is what I have come up with:


CPU: Intel Core-i5 3570k ($219.99)
VGA: XFX Doiuble D Radeon HD 7970 3GB Black Edition ($419.99)
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws X 16GB ($89.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V Pro LGA 1155 ($207.99)
Case: CM Haf X ($179.99)
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung DVD Burner SATA Model -OEM ($17.99)
HDD: Samsung Sandpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM ($84.99)
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB ($149.99)
PSU: CM Silent Pro M700 Bronze Certified ($89.99)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($80.99)
Extra: NZXT Touch Screen Fan Controller ($24.99)




I'm also replacing original case fans to the aftermarket ones.
I am probably going to order 3 CM Megaflow 200mm LED fans for top and rear of the Haf X case,and I'm also going to get two more fans from Noctua (120mm and 140mm).

All of these came down to a little over $1,800 from newegg.


Yes, I play and want to play pretty hefty games, and I will be overclocking.

Budget? I am willing to spend money for high end gaming rig, but I just want to know if there is anything that I went way beyond

where I could have saved some money?

Thanks alot for the help guys.

blaznwiipspman1

you could save money by getting a lower end gpu. I lucked out and got my 7970 for $340 on sale at ncix, so check there. Get 8gb ram for $30, its more than enough. Drop down the mobo to the $150 price range, drop the SSD and go for a midtower case over a full tower.

Why would he go for a lower end gpu which is the most important pc part for determining performance in games when he's trying to build a high end gaming pc? He can save money and not effect his performance at all in games by cutting back on other things.

#5 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6085 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="i_fate"]

Trying to get some high end gaming rig, and here is what I have come up with:


CPU: Intel Core-i5 3570k ($219.99)
VGA: XFX Doiuble D Radeon HD 7970 3GB Black Edition ($419.99)
RAM: G. Skill Ripjaws X 16GB ($89.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V Pro LGA 1155 ($207.99)
Case: CM Haf X ($179.99)
CD/DVD Drive: Samsung DVD Burner SATA Model -OEM ($17.99)
HDD: Samsung Sandpoint F3 1TB 7200RPM ($84.99)
SSD: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB ($149.99)
PSU: CM Silent Pro M700 Bronze Certified ($89.99)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 ($80.99)
Extra: NZXT Touch Screen Fan Controller ($24.99)




I'm also replacing original case fans to the aftermarket ones.
I am probably going to order 3 CM Megaflow 200mm LED fans for top and rear of the Haf X case,and I'm also going to get two more fans from Noctua (120mm and 140mm).

All of these came down to a little over $1,800 from newegg.


Yes, I play and want to play pretty hefty games, and I will be overclocking.

Budget? I am willing to spend money for high end gaming rig, but I just want to know if there is anything that I went way beyond

where I could have saved some money?

Thanks alot for the help guys.

DJ_Headshot

you could save money by getting a lower end gpu. I lucked out and got my 7970 for $340 on sale at ncix, so check there. Get 8gb ram for $30, its more than enough. Drop down the mobo to the $150 price range, drop the SSD and go for a midtower case over a full tower.

Why would he go for a lower end gpu which is the most important pc part for determining performance in games when he's trying to build a high end gaming pc? He can save money and not effect his performance at all in games by cutting back on other things.

well because spending $420 on a video card is a crap load of money....The 7950 is enough for high end gaming and wont bankrupt his wallet. The 7970 is overkill even for a high end rig. Still, if he has the money then he should go for it....i dont regret my choice so i don't think he will either.

#6 Posted by Masenkoe (4888 posts) -

Drop RAM to 8GB, ~$37

The ASRock Z77 Extreme4 is plenty good enough and its only $120

Switch CPU cooler to Hyper 212 EVO, or at that price point get liquid cooling. Not sure why anybody would want to go with a $90 fan when you can go liquid.

I'd honestly stick with the graphics card.

Only other thing would be a cheaper case but of course that's up to you.

#7 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7527 posts) -

Smaller ssd just make it a boot drive. They are still pricey for the size. S2340 dell ips has been good to me so you may want to check that out.

Cheaper psu like 650w, stick with 80+ eff ofc. Gtx 670 or 7950.

#8 Posted by i_fate (39 posts) -

Thanks alot for the feedback guys.

While I'm really into getting the Haf-X case, no reason, just a preference, I just fell in love with it.



I do have one question,

is there a huge difference in terms of performance for 7950 and 7970?

If not, I am willing to go down to 7950 to save some $$ there, but again, if it's worth it to get 7970, I am going to get it.

I'm hoping for more feedback, thanks guys.

#9 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6085 posts) -

This is a great deal on a 7950, and no its not much slower than a 7970.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=78448&vpn=FX795ATDJC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285

$300 for the card, and you also get $30 mail in rebate so that is $270

If you still want the 7970, here it is a little cheaper

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67172&vpn=FX797ATDFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1285

also you should drop the psu to a 600 watt or 650 watt, pay no more than $70 for a psu

#10 Posted by adamosmaki (9737 posts) -
Since you are gaming in 1080p i will also suggest 7950 if you want to save money. An OC 7950 can hot 7970 performance and you are saving about $100 As for Ram you can go to 8gb and upgrade later ( since DDR3 is not gonna be replaced by any other type of Ram any time soon ) You can also save about $50 from the cooler. Imo that noctua is overpriced . For $30-35 you can get a coolermaster hyper 212+ that allows a good amount of overclocking at a minimum noise ( probably the best performance/price ratio cooler ) Then you can save from the motherboard. A $200 motherboard is a steep price to pay. You can find alot of $140-150 mobos that offer 95% of what the Asus P8Z77-V Pro offers and be as reliable and future proof
#11 Posted by adamosmaki (9737 posts) -

Thanks alot for the feedback guys.

While I'm really into getting the Haf-X case, no reason, just a preference, I just fell in love with it.



I do have one question,

is there a huge difference in terms of performance for 7950 and 7970?

If not, I am willing to go down to 7950 to save some $$ there, but again, if it's worth it to get 7970, I am going to get it.

I'm hoping for more feedback, thanks guys.

i_fate
Let me put it this way. At 1080p objectively speaking you wont notice a difference between a 7950 and a 7970. Now if you were planning to play games at 1600p then i'd say go for a 7970 but for 1080p 7950 can save you money and offer you 85-90% of 7970 performance ( and with overclocking you can get almost identical to 7970 performance )
#12 Posted by LordEC911 (9972 posts) -

Main things are going for a cheaper case,less ram(6gb is more then enough), a cheaper motherboard that supports oc, and cheaper cpu cooler(Cool master hyper 212+ is all you really need for air cooling) none of this will effect your performance in games although you might not be able to overclock as far with as low temps but you can't beat the price to performance ratio of the 212+.DJ_Headshot

That's the opposite way I look at it... A case, monitor, PSU and CPU cooler are all things that you can use for future builds and I have no problem spending more money on them to make sure I get great quality. Next comes the CPU, ram and mobo, I am still sitting with my LGA775 systems and wish I would have bought larger/more ram when it was readily available.

Why would he go for a lower end gpu which is the most important pc part for determining performance in games when he's trying to build a high end gaming pc? He can save money and not effect his performance at all in games by cutting back on other things.

DJ_Headshot


Yes a GPU is going to be the main impact on gaming performance but it also is one of the quickest to become outdated.
I use to buy +$400 highend GPUs but found that to keep up I was replacing them every 2-3years.
I have since moved to the high midrange or low highend GPUs, generally in the $200-$300 range, and still tend to replace them every 2-3years.

Edit- Here is a better PSU for the same price,Corsair HX650.

#14 Posted by i_fate (39 posts) -

Hey guys, all of you thanks for your help and advice!
I do realize that my rig had a few overkills and I thank you for your help and kindness.


I was able to chop down the prices to $1365.

Here is my new specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
VGA: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 ($299.99)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB ($42.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V ($139.99)
PSU: Rosewill Green Series 80 Plus Certified 630W ($59.99)
Case: CM Haf X (This, I am really love with this I think I'm going for this even with hefty price for the case)
CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo ($34.99; $3 difference with 212+, so I thought I'd go for this)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
...etc

After some pondering, I decided to pass up on the SSD for now, as I don't know if it's that necessary for my first gaming rig.

Aftermarket case fans and fan controllers, and other add-ons will stay the same.

How's this setup with $1365? Reasonable? Again, thanks a lot for your help guys.


With the follow up question:

Is there anyone familiar with difference between Asrock Ex 4 and Asus P8Z77-V?
The only reason why I passed up on Ex4 was that I did some research and then found out that with CM Hyper 212 Evo,
some of the ram slots will not fit for future upgrades. Is this the same case for Asus V board?

Again, thanks for your help!

#15 Posted by adamosmaki (9737 posts) -

Hey guys, all of you thanks for your help and advice!
I do realize that my rig had a few overkills and I thank you for your help and kindness.


I was able to chop down the prices to $1365.

Here is my new specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
VGA: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 ($299.99)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB ($42.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V ($139.99)
PSU: Rosewill Green Series 80 Plus Certified 630W ($59.99)
Case: CM Haf X (This, I am really love with this I think I'm going for this even with hefty price for the case)
CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo ($34.99; $3 difference with 212+, so I thought I'd go for this)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
...etc

After some pondering, I decided to pass up on the SSD for now, as I don't know if it's that necessary for my first gaming rig.

Aftermarket case fans and fan controllers, and other add-ons will stay the same.

How's this setup with $1365? Reasonable? Again, thanks a lot for your help guys.


With the follow up question:

Is there anyone familiar with difference between Asrock Ex 4 and Asus P8Z77-V?
The only reason why I passed up on Ex4 was that I did some research and then found out that with CM Hyper 212 Evo,
some of the ram slots will not fit for future upgrades. Is this the same case for Asus V board?

Again, thanks for your help!

i_fate
that rig will get you 90-95% of the $1800 rig you put at first and you save more than $400 so its a great build. As for SSD while it wont affect game performance imo its a good addition to your pc since it can greatly improve the whole experience . Nothing beats booting into windows in less than 30 seconds or loading a game in just a few seconds
#16 Posted by adamosmaki (9737 posts) -

Hey guys, all of you thanks for your help and advice!
I do realize that my rig had a few overkills and I thank you for your help and kindness.


I was able to chop down the prices to $1365.

Here is my new specs:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K
VGA: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 ($299.99)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB ($42.99)
Mobo: Asus P8Z77-V ($139.99)
PSU: Rosewill Green Series 80 Plus Certified 630W ($59.99)
Case: CM Haf X (This, I am really love with this I think I'm going for this even with hefty price for the case)
CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo ($34.99; $3 difference with 212+, so I thought I'd go for this)
Monitor: Asus 23.6 Full 1080P Widescreen LCD w/ Speaker ($169.99)
...etc

After some pondering, I decided to pass up on the SSD for now, as I don't know if it's that necessary for my first gaming rig.

Aftermarket case fans and fan controllers, and other add-ons will stay the same.

How's this setup with $1365? Reasonable? Again, thanks a lot for your help guys.


With the follow up question:

Is there anyone familiar with difference between Asrock Ex 4 and Asus P8Z77-V?
The only reason why I passed up on Ex4 was that I did some research and then found out that with CM Hyper 212 Evo,
some of the ram slots will not fit for future upgrades. Is this the same case for Asus V board?

Again, thanks for your help!

i_fate
well you can always get low profile ram modules ( i'm quite sure those will fit ). Corsair vengeance series have a low profile model
#17 Posted by Horgen (110284 posts) -
I got that mobo. I like it. :D
#18 Posted by V4LENT1NE (12895 posts) -
Honestly I would still get the 16GB, its cheap as hell nowadays and who knows what RAM usage will be like in a while, may as well grab it while its so cheap in my opinion. And definitely get an SSD, its like night and day between a normal HDD.
#19 Posted by taylor888 (2232 posts) -

Honestly I would still get the 16GB, its cheap as hell nowadays and who knows what RAM usage will be like in a while, may as well grab it while its so cheap in my opinion. And definitely get an SSD, its like night and day between a normal HDD.V4LENT1NE
The way I see it , since 8GB is more than enough right now, just wait until you need the 8GB and by then 8GB will be a lot cheaper than it is now. Sure, you will probably only save like $20 doing this, but unless you are rendering video or playing 3 games at once, I don't think 16GB is necessary.