Join The Gamespot Folding Team!!!!

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#301 Posted by zbb689 (50 posts) -
i joined the GS team a few days ago.....the WU they gave was huge i think...20,000??!
#302 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Actually, that is far from huge. Most WU's are 2.000.000 frames in size...
#303 Posted by X360PS3AMD05 (36298 posts) -
How can you tell how long a frame takes to be completed?
#304 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
You can't. The highest verbosity level is 9 and even that doesn't display frame per frame completion (it would take a lot of more time to render the text for each finished frame). And the frame time is different with each WU type and used core.
#305 Posted by El-Senor (1648 posts) -
    This really needs an update...

Krall?
#306 Posted by plalm (1298 posts) -

Hey this is pretty cool.  I just started like yesterday.  I've completed 2 WU's so far.  It takes like 1:36 each frame and both WU's were like 500 frames i believe on the Amber Core.  I'm letting it run while I work.  And I usually have 14 hr shifts so thats a lot of work that can be done.  I'm running it on dual core and I just read an article to run two WU's simultaneously, one on each core.  This article was in one of Maximum PC's recent magazines.

quick update:  the third one is a 5000 frame core and its taking like 24s/frames.  I can't believe I just jumped from dead last in GS's folding team to 188th.  I'll see where I'm at soon.

#307 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
It's not that hard to do. You just need to copy the client into 2 seperate directories, launch and set them to a different Machine ID (max. is 8 ) and you are done. Windows should automatically set the affinity between the 2 cores so both programs don't work on the same core.
#308 Posted by plalm (1298 posts) -
yep thats it.
#309 Posted by Kurushio (10485 posts) -
Im closing on the top 20 i think but i know ill be passed quick if i dont eventually upgrade to a quad core or atleast a dual core next time i build.
#310 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
[QUOTE="El-Senor"] This really needs an update...

Krall?



I know, I know !

Let's see I'm currently working on a Master Game Discussion  sticky,  I'm doing another one for broken 360s in the X-Box forum, I need to update the BF2 sticky, I'm working on a full CPU & systems buyers guide for this forum and that doesn't count all the moderation duties. I should have some free time in a couple of weeks or less since my house work is nearly done. I'll just have to do a little research to update all the links and see if there are any good guides around. Sorry I know I've been saying I'd update this since forever :cry:

 
#311 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
Im closing on the top 20 i think but i know ill be passed quick if i dont eventually upgrade to a quad core or atleast a dual core next time i build.Kurushio


No stay away from my spot! :)

Good work Kurushio, lemme know when you go quad core so I can upgrade heh
#312 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
Krall, I don't really think you need to worry about anyone catching you. :P
#313 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Wait until I would decide to join your team. Krall will be gone in no time. :P 1024 WU's? Bwahahahahaha, that's nothing! P.S. Don't worry Krall, I got my own team and I'm never going to join the team of GS... :D :P :D
#314 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
[QUOTE="DirkVDV01"]Wait until I would decide to join your team. Krall will be gone in no time. :P 1024 WU's? Bwahahahahaha, that's nothing! P.S. Don't worry Krall, I got my own team and I'm never going to join the team of GS... :D :P :D



Lame :P

I shall banish you to the gallows!

It's your own personal team? Gimmie details please :)
#315 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
Krall, I don't really think you need to worry about anyone catching you. :PStevobob


If it is one thing I've learned that if someone is determined enough 'never' isn't ever an issue :)
#316 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
I could be folding on a second PC right now if I hadn't snapped the motherboard because I was pissed that it wouldn't work. :P
#317 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
I could be folding on a second PC right now if I hadn't snapped the motherboard because I was pissed that it wouldn't work. :PStevobob
Wow, you snapped your motherboard? Next time, throw pillow around will you? :D
#318 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
It was a crappy computer anyways, socket 462 Athlon XP 1.1gHz. Only thing is, now I have a ton of decent parts (relative to the old P2 "pc" I had) and no motherboard, so now I need to buy a new s462 mobo. :S
#319 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
You killed the motherboard. Why? Why? WHY? Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
#320 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
Wow pics?

I've never seen a MB that was snapped in half! I think it's time for anger managment classes Stevo ;)
#321 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
Sorry, it's long gone. Now that I think about it, I should have taken some pictures for fun...oh well. :P
#322 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Yeah, I know some therapists in case you have problems... :P
#323 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
Yeah, I know some therapists in case you have problems... :PDirkVDV01
I NEED NO THERAPIST *punches hole in wall* ... dammit.
#324 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Your right, we have to put you into an isolated cell... :P
#325 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
:twisted:

On a lighter note, I may finally be getting a second machine to fold on. ^_^
#326 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Great. When it's ready... join my team! LOL! :D
#327 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
:P I may, but I'll probably stick with Gamespot's. Depends how lazy I'm feeling when I get the second box up and running.
#328 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Well, if you are lazy... mine has fewer members, so you don't have to scroll that much in the list of members :P
#329 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
I don't even check my stats anymore. I assume I'm helping a tiny little bit and taht's enough for me.
#330 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Yes, helping the project is all that counts really. As long as we can participate and help it's good for me.
#331 Posted by Kurushio (10485 posts) -
There's an article on GS that says that they have figure out a way to use the x1900 to help fold and it folds like 10x quicker now or something.  I hope that are able to figure out a way for the 7900GT to fold so that i can help out even more (and maybe pass Krall and Gordon24 lol).
#332 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
The X1800XT was about the first GPGPU collaboration that enabled to make the VGa work for any program you wanted to run on it. So the X1900 would be better as well, but the breakthrough which they focused on the most now was the Cell architecture that is going to be used in the Playstation 3. An article and some video's of the client in action on a Cell architecture can be found here: http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html
#333 Posted by Kurushio (10485 posts) -
I think though they have only programmed the x19 series to help in processing since it can calculate something like 370GFlops compared to the cpu which is like 40GFlops or something.  I just wonder how much that would heat the video card up to though it would be one of the best things to do to test overclocks on your cpu and gpu since if it could handle that for 12hrs of so then it should be good and it will be for a good cause.  I hope Nvidia steps in now and helps them make a program for the 7 series cards to help out.
#334 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Bèta tests were performed on the X1800XT and they asked for GPGPU volunteers then as well. I can still remember the fuss in the FAH forum when this data became available. But the official release is indeed the X19* family
#335 Posted by megagoten (5186 posts) -
i'm about to join. what happens if you close the comp haflway and about the gpu, i've got a x300, running on omega's driver.. do i MUST revert back to ati's to use the extra little bit of power?
#336 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
The program saves progress every few minutes, so if you quit and reopen it later it will start at roughly the point it was at when you closed it. And the program uses your CPU, not your GPU, so you don't need to do anything to your video drivers.
#337 Posted by Stevobob (4251 posts) -
Top 20! Wooo!!!!
#338 Posted by megagoten (5186 posts) -
well, i joined. more questions, my cpu maxes at 50% i'm guessing that's due to my HT cpu? anyway i can maximise it? well, i heard that it's now possible to use both cpu and gpu together and get some significan increased performance, only it says that ati's driver's needed
#339 Posted by LordEC911 (9972 posts) -
it only uses the x1900 series right now....
#340 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
[QUOTE="megagoten"]well, i joined. more questions, my cpu maxes at 50% i'm guessing that's due to my HT cpu? anyway i can maximise it? well, i heard that it's now possible to use both cpu and gpu together and get some significan increased performance, only it says that ati's driver's needed

Yes, it's because of HT that you see 50% CPU usage. It's 100%, you can be certain of this, so maximising it won't have much of an effect. Don't use 2 clients, since the HT is just a virtual CPU and will be very slow... The client has only been written and released for ATI 19** family GPU's. No use in trying it on your Nvidia card or with different drivers, it won't work.
#341 Posted by megagoten (5186 posts) -

[QUOTE="megagoten"]well, i joined. more questions, my cpu maxes at 50% i'm guessing that's due to my HT cpu? anyway i can maximise it? well, i heard that it's now possible to use both cpu and gpu together and get some significan increased performance, only it says that ati's driver's neededDirkVDV01
Yes, it's because of HT that you see 50% CPU usage. It's 100%, you can be certain of this, so maximising it won't have much of an effect. Don't use 2 clients, since the HT is just a virtual CPU and will be very slow... The client has only been written and released for ATI 19** family GPU's. No use in trying it on your Nvidia card or with different drivers, it won't work.

ah great. thanks guys. ok, more questions (i did go through their faq) maybe it's a placebo effect, but i'm convinced the first frame is slower... first one took me some 20 minutes ytd, and then i did a few more at 7minutes today, it's taking me some 20 minutes for the first frame too. *yes, you can laugh at my computer, but, seeing as to how there are 8 PENTIUMS still folding...*

edit: screensaver won't work?

#342 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
No, no placebo effect. It happens in most projects, since the core has to start from scratch and build it's environment first. It must get a general idea first of what it is going to do, and that demands lots of resources. It's not wrong when this happens. There are issues with the screensaver, indeed. Mostly OpenGL related. Fixes are second to none, waste a lot of resources and are planned to (hopefully) be fixed in the 6.00 client. Questions like these get asked in the FAH forum A LOT! I generally advice to NOT use the screensaver and use the blank screen or something else, since the moving FAH window is a resource hog and slows computation down massively.
#343 Posted by Kurushio (10485 posts) -
How many people here actually have an x19x card and are using it for folding?
#344 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
How many people here actually have an x19x card and are using it for folding?Kurushio
Not me. i'm preparing a rant on it, since it's something isn't very clear to me...
#345 Posted by megagoten (5186 posts) -
[QUOTE="DirkVDV01"]No, no placebo effect. It happens in most projects, since the core has to start from scratch and build it's environment first. It must get a general idea first of what it is going to do, and that demands lots of resources. It's not wrong when this happens. There are issues with the screensaver, indeed. Mostly OpenGL related. Fixes are second to none, waste a lot of resources and are planned to (hopefully) be fixed in the 6.00 client. Questions like these get asked in the FAH forum A LOT! I generally advice to NOT use the screensaver and use the blank screen or something else, since the moving FAH window is a resource hog and slows computation down massively.

thanks a ton. their forum wouldn't seem to work. (blank page)
#346 Posted by Kurushio (10485 posts) -

[QUOTE="Kurushio"]How many people here actually have an x19x card and are using it for folding?DirkVDV01
Not me. i'm preparing a rant on it, since it's something isn't very clear to me...

Whats not clear?  The x19 series is very good at making calculations and they have figured out how to make the shaders work for them.  I just wish that maybe nvidia would help out but i guess it will have to wait until perhaps my next upgrade when maybe i can get a quad core and which ever video card is best that i can afford at the time.

#347 Posted by Konrad (8242 posts) -
If anyone would like to remake this thread with charts and graphs and such that actually work... well, that would be nice of them.  
#348 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
If anyone would like to remake this thread with charts and graphs and such that actually work... well, that would be nice of them. Konrad


Whoa a Konrad siting! :) How's it going m8?

I've been trying to get someone to update this but they always look to me to do it :)
#349 Posted by Eragon_11 (5022 posts) -
[QUOTE="Konrad"]If anyone would like to remake this thread with charts and graphs and such that actually work... well, that would be nice of them. Krall


Whoa a Konrad siting! :) How's it going m8?

I've been trying to get someone to update this but they always look to me to do it :)

Is that right me saying this hasnt been updated in almost a year?
#350 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
[QUOTE="Konrad"]If anyone would like to remake this thread with charts and graphs and such that actually work... well, that would be nice of them. Krall


Whoa a Konrad siting! :) How's it going m8?

I've been trying to get someone to update this but they always look to me to do it :)

We just want you to do at least SOMETHING usefull here, Krall! :P