Join The Gamespot Folding Team!!!!

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#1 Posted by Dark_Jedi (11946 posts) -
Hello And Welcome To The Gamespot Folding Team! ! !

The Gamespot Folding team was originally started by thaddusbly some years ago when this site used the Lithium forums. Thankfully when the forums switched over to the existing software Dark_Jedi saved the main post and re-stickied what we have here today. Under the watchful eyes of Konrad & nutDAVE3 it had remained stickied.

While I am at it I'd like to thank everyone who contributes to this team effort by donating their unused processor cycles and as well as posting and helping out in this very thread. I'd also like to thank DirkVD01 for helping me out with the updates.

So what's the actual purpose of the Gamespot folding team? Well it's not about folding laundry :) Stanford University runs a distributed computing program called Folding@home and its goal is to understand protein folding, misfolding, and related diseases. That last part, related diseases is what this is really all about; it's what nearly 2,000,000 processors are doing and that is helping to find cures to these forms of cancer:

ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE (AD)
CANCER AND P53
HUNTINGTON'S DISEASE (HD)
OSTEOGENSIS IMPERFECTA
PARKINSON'S DISEASE (PD)
RIBOSOME AND ANTIBIOTICS

In addition to the links above you can read up (if so incline) on the published research papers that are a direct result of the various folding teams. Currently there are 45 and they can be read HERE. The papers are of public domain and not something that was sold off for profit. For more information on the scientific literature and what exactly protein folding and misfoling is see THIS.

How does the Gamespot Folding team work? Basically you download a small program or client that once installed will utilize your processor's 'unused' cycles to work on folding. Unused cycles? Simply put it is the portion of you processor that isn't doing any work, so if it's running at 80% while you game the other 20% goes to folding. It does this on the fly and will not interfere with your gaming or other computer usage. You can download clients that run either in the background or clients that run as screen savers.

What are the requirements to run it? Whatever processor you use needs to be able to complete the work units on time which can usually be done on a processor running at 1GHz or faster. These are the various operating systems you can run it on and the client downloads:

Windows 2000, Windows XP & Windows Vista - Graphical Clients
Windows 98 & Windows ME - Graphical Clients
Windows NT, Windows 2000, Windows XP & Windows Vista - Text Only Clients
Linux x86 and BSD - Text Only Client
Linux x86-64bit SMP - Text Only Client
MAC OS X - Graphical Client
MAC OS X - Screen Saver Client
MAC OS X - Text Only Client
MAC OS X (Intel) SMP - Text Only Client
NEW! ATI Graphic Cards (X1600, X1800, X1900 & Beyond
NEW! SONY Playstation 3
TEAM INFORMATION

The Gamespot Folding Team Is: #32721

http://fahstats.com/tp.php?t=32721

Production History
http://fahstats.com/tr.php?t=32721

Radar Scope
http://fahstats.com/ts.php?t=32721

Active & New Member Daily History
More statistics can be found at FAH Stats.com



Future updates: Inclusion of charts, setup guides and more info on PS3 folding.

This thread is currently maintained by Krall with the last updates being done one 3/18/07
#2 Posted by Yodeling_Punk (6501 posts) -
I would love to help cure cancer, but I dont want to analyze chemicals.
#3 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -
Wow nice work Dark Jedi! :) I thought threads like this would be gone forever. Glad to see someone taking the initiative.
#4 Posted by *floppydisk191 (4557 posts) -
Hey I wil help, Hang on I will get my computers set up! I have 7 of them. One of them is HT. So this will work great.
#5 Posted by nuke_the_whales (2430 posts) -
Name one disease you cured using this method. None huh? Then whats the point?
#6 Posted by Dark_Jedi (11946 posts) -
Name one disease you cured using this method. None huh? Then whats the point?nuke_the_whales

Distributed computing is still in its infancy, but is considered the future of science processing power. Read this if you aren't convinced. I don't think a cancer cure is expected to come from Folding, but simulating the folding of proteins is an important step to understand why proteins fail to fold incorrectly, causing such diseases as cancer. If you aren't interested, no one is forcing you to contribute, but I myself think it is a good cause, even if the goal seems far out of reach.
#7 Posted by Dissipate (8987 posts) -

[QUOTE="nuke_the_whales"]Name one disease you cured using this method. None huh? Then whats the point?Dark_Jedi

Distributed computing is still in its infancy, but is considered the future of science processing power. Read this if you aren't convinced. I don't think a cancer cure is expected to come from Folding, but simulating the folding of proteins is an important step to understand why proteins fail to fold incorrectly, causing such diseases as cancer. If you aren't interested, no one is forcing you to contribute, but I myself think it is a good cause, even if the goal seems far out of reach.

I agree, I'll help out after I put in my new parts. Should be in about a week or so.

#8 Posted by AbsoluteO (7364 posts) -
FloppyDisk, your sig is giving me a seizure! lol

Folding sounds like a good idea, but the link didn't work for me.
#9 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

FloppyDisk, your sig is giving me a seizure! lol

Folding sounds like a good idea, but the link didn't work for me.AbsoluteO

This should take you to the main page: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/

BTW that Nuke the Whales guy, what if it does cure cancer? All that time your computer sat around doing nothing could have been used for something productive. And if it doesn't turn out to be curable then it's not like it's hurting your computer in anyway.

Folding all by itself isn't going to come up with a cure, it's helping the researchers and scientist get their work done a little faster then they could otherwise.

#10 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

Hey DJ, a few of those links from the original post don't work anymore and 1 goes to a nice pron site ;) If you get a chance I looked around and found replacement links so maybe you can update them:


This is to view team stats:
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=32721

Link to more interactive stats page:
http://www.statsman.ww-testsites.co.uk/folding2stats/

An excellant link to check out team progress:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=32721

One other link that might be good to add is a MaximumPC magazine article on setting up the client(s) on your computer: http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-10.html

We aren't doing to bad either after all this time, we are ranked 144 out of 30680 other teams :)

#11 Posted by Shoota_McG (22207 posts) -
Oh noes! I've dropped to 4th!!!
#12 Posted by Dark_Jedi (11946 posts) -

Hey DJ, a few of those links from the original post don't work anymore and 1 goes to a nice pron site ;) If you get a chance I looked around and found replacement links so maybe you can update them:


This is to view team stats:
http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=32721

Link to more interactive stats page:
http://www.statsman.ww-testsites.co.uk/folding2stats/

An excellant link to check out team progress:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=32721

One other link that might be good to add is a MaximumPC magazine article on setting up the client(s) on your computer: http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-10.html

We aren't doing to bad either after all this time, we are ranked 144 out of 30680 other teams :)

Krall

Thanks, I added all of those links, though I can't seem to hyperlink them until the permissions problem is fixed.
#13 Posted by Poochie- (9396 posts) -
I joined. :)
#14 Posted by Golden_Helmet (15070 posts) -
i've been in this. whatever helps to cure cancer :)

although i only have a 1800+, this lil' CPU is working its non-existant heart out to save my life one day :P
#15 Posted by red_person (3715 posts) -
I joined but not this one.
#16 Posted by Poochie- (9396 posts) -
I just got a 5,000 point work unit. Wow, this will take forever. :)
#17 Posted by AbsoluteO (7364 posts) -

[QUOTE="AbsoluteO"]FloppyDisk, your sig is giving me a seizure! lol

Folding sounds like a good idea, but the link didn't work for me.Krall

This should take you to the main page: http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/

BTW that Nuke the Whales guy, what if it does cure cancer? All that time your computer sat around doing nothing could have been used for something productive. And if it doesn't turn out to be curable then it's not like it's hurting your computer in anyway.

Folding all by itself isn't going to come up with a cure, it's helping the researchers and scientist get their work done a little faster then they could otherwise.



thanks, that link worked. i joined ;)
#18 Posted by Zacmaniac (9515 posts) -
Whatever happened to good ol thaddusbly?
#19 Posted by thaddusbly (2239 posts) -
Im still around. I check these forums about once a month, but I dont have the amount of time to do everything that I did here. Simply put, running the #1 DC Clan (Phaze 2) takes too much time to do much else while on my computer. Maybe during the summer I'll do a bit of posting here, but as of now i just have 0 time.
#20 Posted by Counte_Monte (2470 posts) -
I have a new problem. If i leave Folding running, and I load up warcraft or starcraft, it minimizes everytime i click something in the game interfaces. Any work around?
#21 Posted by ChaoticNeutral (20 posts) -
I'm 'bout it 'bout it. God Bless!!!
#22 Posted by Altonova1 (1756 posts) -

I have a new problem. If i leave Folding running, and I load up warcraft or starcraft, it minimizes everytime i click something in the game interfaces. Any work around?Counte_Monte

when i go to play a game i lower the cpu usage it handles. if i don't then either the game fails to load or i get the same problem you do though not in the same games

#23 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

[QUOTE="Counte_Monte"]I have a new problem. If i leave Folding running, and I load up warcraft or starcraft, it minimizes everytime i click something in the game interfaces. Any work around?Altonova1

when i go to play a game i lower the cpu usage it handles. if i don't then either the game fails to load or i get the same problem you do though not in the same games

You can also run it the way I do. I just use the screen saver so when I'm not actually using the computer after say 10mins that comes up and it folds so it doesn't interfere with what I am doing while in use.

#24 Posted by GoldenAvenger (875 posts) -

I have a PC (well my dad does) that could fold 24/7 but I doubt my dad would feel like paying an extra amount in his electricity bill (not that I have any open electrical sockets...). Oh well.

BTW, have they actually shown any progress? It doesn't seem like the folding thing is doing much. .:(
I guess it's worth it if they can actually create a cure for cancer though.

#25 Posted by schu (9276 posts) -
I have a question, this may not be popular with some, but does the information that you figure out with this folding thing ever go to be used in animal research? i dont want to be responsible for figuring out a reason for them to give a monkey cancer to try to cure it
#26 Posted by DarthMegalon (1210 posts) -

protein folding and interactions are important in stuff like gene regulation, development, and cell death. cancer is the result of uncontrolled cell growth, so if the reason for that is because of over/under-active proteins from misfolding or different interactions with other proteins, it's not a bad idea to study this stuff in any way possible. running this program helps achieve this goal, although the results each computer contributes are small in the scope of such a large project.

no matter how much computer simming is done of this stuff, ultimately it will need to be tested in a "real world" situation. so an animal model will be used to study in vivo protein interactions, be it for cancer research or something else (this is currently being done in a lot of labs, but most of the time isn't done on monkeys, usually mice or smaller animals that are easier to work with). without animal models the treatments that help save millions of people every year wouldn't exist, and future goals of curing widespread disease would be unreachable.

#27 Posted by InsaneSly (1583 posts) -

I Just set up for HT woo! and it works time to rake in the WUs

#28 Posted by xchaos12 (217 posts) -
Well, I just signed up.
#29 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

Well, I just signed up.Jimi_Thing

Nice, welcome to the team :)

Go DMB!

#30 Posted by InsaneSly (1583 posts) -

[QUOTE="Jimi_Thing"]Well, I just signed up.Krall

Nice, welcome to the team :)

Go DMB!

You Like DMB haha very cool!

Im folding alot faster now hehe, that 1 link says i will overtake you in 1121 days see you in 4 years :lol:

#31 Posted by AbsoluteO (7364 posts) -
how many WUs has everyone completed? i'm on 9 but that's because i don't leave my computer on all the time. any of you at 50 or 100?
#32 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

how many WUs has everyone completed? i'm on 9 but that's because i don't leave my computer on all the time. any of you at 50 or 100?AbsoluteO

I've done 505 WUs :) but I have 3 computers folding when not in use... damn I've been kicked down to 4th place :( need more power!

And yes DMB rules! They are unbelievable live :D

#33 Posted by FragStains (20668 posts) -
im in, athlon XP...go to work!!
#34 Posted by -fool- (21490 posts) -

#35 Posted by roosterboy_08 (4996 posts) -
Ok, well It cause multiple problems and i decided that I would play with it some other time. Also, should it use 100% of CPU? BTW my computer started making a wierd noise after it froze and then crashed, and the icon would not show up in the system tray.
#36 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13607 posts) -
I just joined.
#37 Posted by AbsoluteO (7364 posts) -

I just joined.GummiRaccoon

like you're computer's gonna help a lot :P

jk

#38 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13607 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]I just joined.AbsoluteO

like you're computer's gonna help a lot :P

jk

:( I am on my 2nd work unit already and my computer is on about 12 hours a day I think it can handle itself. Besides I am on the brink of upgrading to an AXP 2400+ and I was thinking of putting it on my quad xeon 550, but I am not sure if F@H is multithreaded or not and I barely have my server on.

#39 Posted by Dark_Jedi (11946 posts) -
[QUOTE="AbsoluteO"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]I just joined.GummiRaccoon

like you're computer's gonna help a lot :P

jk

:( I am on my 2nd work unit already and my computer is on about 12 hours a day I think it can handle itself. Besides I am on the brink of upgrading to an AXP 2400+ and I was thinking of putting it on my quad xeon 550, but I am not sure if F@H is multithreaded or not and I barely have my server on.


According to this information, if you add -local -advmethods -forceasm -verbosity 9 to the target line of your F@h shortcut, it should enable multiprocessor use.
#40 Posted by AtreusGS (1528 posts) -
heh... i'm in. who knows, maybe this will be helpful. :/
#41 Posted by awoeonip (7488 posts) -

woohoo, a gamespot folding team!! I've been folding with maximumPC for about 6 months now, but I think i'm gonna be changing alligiences once I reinstall windows...:)

If you are using an athlon...-forceSSE usually does alot to boost production. Also, install the console version as a service (just google it..there are many applications out there that do this), that way, it will be running silent and not cluttering any space. Keep a shortcut to the log if you want to keep track of how you are folding.

Also, turn off your screensaver. Don't set it to blank, set it to <none> and set your monitor to shut off after 3 or 5 minutes. That way, your screensaver isn't stealing cycles. Hibernation and standby will halt folding.

There's no reason not to join...I've been running folding at 100% 24/7 on a wimpy 350W PSU with minimal system cooling with minimal for half a year now (Aside from occasional freezes every couple of weeks) . A research firm did a study on folding's impact on gaming and found that it lowered framerates by less than 3% in most cases. (Can't find the link :() Good luck folding everyone!

#42 Posted by bruckout (1474 posts) -
ive joined......
#43 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13607 posts) -
I'm on my 3rd work unit. W00t
#44 Posted by AtreusGS (1528 posts) -

i'm only on #2. :(

but i'll catch up soon.

#45 Posted by CrazyKinux (5 posts) -
Here's to Folding@Gamespot!!!

Great initiative Dark Jedi.

#46 Posted by swetty_betty (2258 posts) -

hey, i was wondering if the folding program runs all the time or only when the cpu is idle, i've been using one from oxford/cambridge uni for the last couple of years and that one only loads when your screen saver kicks in. is this one the same?

#47 Posted by Krall (16463 posts) -

hey, i was wondering if the folding program runs all the time or only when the cpu is idle, i've been using one from oxford/cambridge uni for the last couple of years and that one only loads when your screen saver kicks in. is this one the same?

swetty_betty

You can choose between running a screen saver (like I do) or using the program runs when the CPU is idle :) Both are available from the first page of this posting.

#48 Posted by Dark_Jedi (11946 posts) -

hey, i was wondering if the folding program runs all the time or only when the cpu is idle, i've been using one from oxford/cambridge uni for the last couple of years and that one only loads when your screen saver kicks in. is this one the same?

swetty_betty


You can set it up that way, but in it's default mode, Folding uses all of your spare CPU cycles to fold proteins, so your CPU usage is always at 100%. There is virtually no performance hit, though.

#49 Posted by *floppydisk191 (4557 posts) -
Purging Related Bump
#50 Posted by koolmark20000 (717 posts) -
I have downloaded it. And it says that it is working. I hope I can help. I am running a Gateway intel 1.8ghz processor . Do i need to do anything else with the program after I download it and configure it and it says that it is working in the bottom part of my screen next to the time? If so please tell me.