Is SWTOR Free-to-play mode will improve or become better?

I only played as a preferred member. It isn't so bad if you want to play the storyline from 1-50 with some WZ's/FP's thrown in once in awhile. Only thing that bugged me was the 2 crafting skills limit and the GTN limits is really low. But that's workable.

F2P looks virtually unplayable with the quickbar limit.

I only played as a preferred member. It isn't so bad if you want to play the storyline from 1-50 with some WZ's/FP's thrown in once in awhile. Only thing that bugged me was the 2 crafting skills limit and the GTN limits is really low. But that's workable.

F2P looks virtually unplayable with the quickbar limit.

Im_single

I only played as a preferred member. It isn't so bad if you want to play the storyline from 1-50 with some WZ's/FP's thrown in once in awhile. Only thing that bugged me was the 2 crafting skills limit and the GTN limits is really low. But that's workable.

F2P looks virtually unplayable with the quickbar limit.

Im_single

I know you have been  a vocal fan of this game Felip but come on, you have to admit it is one of the more restrictive MMO f2p models out there.

I know you have been  a vocal fan of this game Felip but come on, you have to admit it is one of the more restrictive MMO f2p models out there.

vfibsux

I have a lvl50 and a lvl40 character and on another account lvl22 and lvl26. You can buy unlocks for most stuff on GTN.

I don't intend to give a dime to EAware but it's not that bad

just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

ciorlandenis

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

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I know you have been  a vocal fan of this game Felip but come on, you have to admit it is one of the more restrictive MMO f2p models out there.

FelipeInside

Can you name them? Because the ones I have seen go f2p lately, NWO and Tera for example, give you full access to the game. Cash shops in those two merely enhance your gameplay.

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just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

Darth_Kane

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

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[QUOTE="ciorlandenis"]

just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

vfibsux

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

Why do you think that everyone on the planet thinks like you?

You make a huge fuss about an action bar limit, while some other players probably don't care.  Don't you get that?

The game is playable fine for a casual gamer with the F2P model, if that casual player wants more then he can buy additional things from the store, if that player wants the whole thing, he can sub.

Ever thought that a player might want to play for a month, but then stop?   You have to understand that that's how gamers work these days with MMOs, they move from MMO to MMO and back.  (Not all of them of course)

I understand it's one of the more "tighter" F2P models, but it's not the end of the universe as everyone here makes it out to be.

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[QUOTE="ciorlandenis"]

just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

vfibsux

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

FelipeInside

Why do you think that everyone on the planet thinks like you?

You make a huge fuss about an action bar limit, while some other players probably don't care.  Don't you get that?

The game is playable fine for a casual gamer with the F2P model, if that casual player wants more then he can buy additional things from the store, if that player wants the whole thing, he can sub.

Ever thought that a player might want to play for a month, but then stop?   You have to understand that that's how gamers work these days with MMOs, they move from MMO to MMO and back.  (Not all of them of course)

I understand it's one of the more "tighter" F2P models, but it's not the end of the universe as everyone here makes it out to be.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

FelipeInside

Why do you think that everyone on the planet thinks like you?

You make a huge fuss about an action bar limit, while some other players probably don't care.  Don't you get that?

The game is playable fine for a casual gamer with the F2P model, if that casual player wants more then he can buy additional things from the store, if that player wants the whole thing, he can sub.

Ever thought that a player might want to play for a month, but then stop?   You have to understand that that's how gamers work these days with MMOs, they move from MMO to MMO and back.  (Not all of them of course)

I understand it's one of the more "tighter" F2P models, but it's not the end of the universe as everyone here makes it out to be.

1. No, I do not expect everyone to think like me. In my opinion you are being suckered if you play this as a f2p model and still pay for things like quick bars but would not play because of the sub. I will never get that and the only conclusion I have is you got played by this company.

2. Huge fuss over the action bar? Ummm, no. That was just one example of the worst free 2 play model in MMO's today.

3. I am not talking about people (the casuals as you called them) who don't mind playing through the limited gameplay without paying a dime for it.

4. This free to play model sucks, no need to be a fanboy about it, just admit it. It is okay if you still want to play it, I just think if you pay these guys for silly features that come standard with other f2p MMO's because you don't believe in subs you are fooling yourself. The fact they doubled their revenue proves this is happening to at least some extent.

Edit: 5. Gamespot, when the hell are you going to get new forums, these things have sucked for years. If I have spaces when I type it out I kind of expect them when I hit submit....

^^ LOL, no need to call me a fanboy, people can have different opinions than you ya know.

I said it's probably one of the more "restrictive" F2P models out there, I agree, but like you said so yourself, the revenue has doubled with the new model. The action bar thing is probably a bit excessive, but the Cartel Market is actually pretty cool with the things they sell.

Everyone praises LOTRO for it's F2P model (me included), but does anyone ever mention that you need to spend money to unlock progression in that game? As in new areas and expansions? Yet SWTOR lets you play EVERY area all the way through but limits other things like Bank and Character Spots. Which like I've said before, is aimed at casual players who don't need the extra things or just want to try the game out.

I'll say it again, for casual playing the F2P model is fine.  If you want more you need to sub or spend a bit of cartel points. 

Didn't call you a fanboy dude, just said you were acting like one. I did not say you did not have an opinion, it is your opinion which I am disagreeing with lol. It is what it is, I think it is a crap f2p model. Games like Tera, Neverwinter and Star Trek Online are doing it right. I don't believe SWTOR is good enough a game to skimp on so much.  

Didn't call you a fanboy dude, just said you were acting like one. I did not say you did not have an opinion, it is your opinion which I am disagreeing with lol. It is what it is, I think it is a crap f2p model. Games like Tera, Neverwinter and Star Trek Online are doing it right. I don't believe SWTOR is good enough a game to skimp on so much.  

vfibsux

Yeah fair enough, but those other games also have limitations, that's what my point was, and that the "restrictive" F2P model that SWTOR has isn't as restrictive as people think (as long as you understand it's for casual play).  I don't say this just off the top of my head, I've actually played with both models. 

I personally try to sub to it cause I like having lots of money (which I never end up using anyway, lol).  

Well I did try it and was pretty pissed when I saw I could only play two of my toons (among others things) despite paying their piece of **** company $70 for a game I got 2 weeks of entertainment out of. Yea my fault for being a sucker and falling for the hype though. They won't see another dime from me and the game was bad enough without limitations, I see no reason to bother playing it with them.

Rift just announced a completely f2p full game model btw.....conversative bag slot limits are the only restrictions.

Well I did try it and was pretty pissed when I saw I could only play two of my toons (among others things) despite paying their piece of **** company $70 for a game I got 2 weeks of entertainment out of. Yea my fault for being a sucker and falling for the hype though. They won't see another dime from me and the game was bad enough without limitations, I see no reason to bother playing it with them.

 

Rift just announced a completely f2p full game model btw.....conversative bag slot limits are the only restrictions.

vfibsux

Do u even like MMOs?

And why are they a **** company? BioWare has made awesome games.

Anyway, we have gone off the golden brick road. 

TC, like I said before, for casual play the F2P model works fine.  If you want to play more you can buy additional packs or just sub.

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Well I did try it and was pretty pissed when I saw I could only play two of my toons (among others things) despite paying their piece of **** company $70 for a game I got 2 weeks of entertainment out of. Yea my fault for being a sucker and falling for the hype though. They won't see another dime from me and the game was bad enough without limitations, I see no reason to bother playing it with them.

 

Rift just announced a completely f2p full game model btw.....conversative bag slot limits are the only restrictions.

FelipeInside

Do u even like MMOs?

And why are they a **** company? BioWare has made awesome games.

Anyway, we have gone off the golden brick road. 

TC, like I said before, for casual play the F2P model works fine.  If you want to play more you can buy additional packs or just sub.

I agree with everyone about everything.

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[QUOTE="vfibsux"]

Well I did try it and was pretty pissed when I saw I could only play two of my toons (among others things) despite paying their piece of **** company $70 for a game I got 2 weeks of entertainment out of. Yea my fault for being a sucker and falling for the hype though. They won't see another dime from me and the game was bad enough without limitations, I see no reason to bother playing it with them.

 

Rift just announced a completely f2p full game model btw.....conversative bag slot limits are the only restrictions.

vfibsux

Do u even like MMOs?

And why are they a **** company? BioWare has made awesome games.

Anyway, we have gone off the golden brick road. 

TC, like I said before, for casual play the F2P model works fine.  If you want to play more you can buy additional packs or just sub.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

Do u even like MMOs?

And why are they a **** company? BioWare has made awesome games.

Anyway, we have gone off the golden brick road. 

TC, like I said before, for casual play the F2P model works fine.  If you want to play more you can buy additional packs or just sub.

FelipeInside

lol. Bro, yes text is tough to interpret mood from. If you look back at your posts it can seem as though you are trippin out as well. Just because I throw in colorful metaphors to get a emphasis across does not mean I'm here foaming at the mouth. Your posts don't look any different than mine. Tell me you don't sound all pissed off here:

"Why do you think that everyone on the planet thinks like you? You make a huge fuss about an action bar limit, while some other players probably don't care. Don't you get that?"

I'm chilled man. Trust me, you would know if I were truly pissed. This is not a topic that gets my blood boiling. If you want to talk politics you can see some real passion come out of me lol. No offense man, like I said I like you as a poster and see you as a valuable member of this forum, you just can annoy me with this one topic. My wife annoys me at times too and I am married to her, If you think you deserve more consideration than my wife does to me you need to rethink this whole internet thing ;)

Edit: My lord does anyone know how to keep this terrible forum from taking your paragraphs and lumping them all into a wall of text?

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just 2 action bars... srsly that is just a cruel thing to do, i'd rather have -50% xp

vfibsux

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

Buying game content in most situations is absurd like you said. Metro LL for example, I think its absurd that you have to pre-order the game to get Ranger Mode or have to pay extra money if you don't. However, in this situation, its a game you paid money for. This game is F2P. You can't expect everything to be available for a F2P game. They have to make money somehow.

[QUOTE="vfibsux"][QUOTE="Darth_Kane"]

You get 2 action bars AND -25% xp

You can buy quickbars from GTN

Cwagmire21

Buying game content in most situations is absurd like you said. Metro LL for example, I think its absurd that you have to pre-order the game to get Ranger Mode or have to pay extra money if you don't. However, in this situation, its a game you paid money for. This game is F2P. You can't expect everything to be available for a F2P game. They have to make money somehow.