intel lied.. haswell is misleading

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overclocking-nonk-series-haswell-parts/

okay so you the user want to get a cpu for a little bit of everything. maybe do some virtualization, some gaming, and you want to verclock. guess what. you got jacked by intel as you now have to choose. WCCFtech has looked into the matter and its accurate as hell.

k series cpu's can overclock but they lack virtual ahrdware extensions making VM's impossible on K series cpu's. but they are on non-k variant which are COMPLETELY LOCKED, meaning you can even brute force a tiny overclock out.

this should be an interesting fight we have here. haswell is a stock flop with two faces vs amd's weaker, cheaper, one size fits all approach. who will come out on top?
 

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overclocking-nonk-series-haswell-parts/

okay so you the user want to get a cpu for a little bit of everything. maybe do some virtualization, some gaming, and you want to verclock. guess what. you got jacked by intel as you now have to choose. WCCFtech has looked into the matter and its accurate as hell.

k series cpu's can overclock but they lack virtual ahrdware extensions making VM's impossible on K series cpu's. but they are on non-k variant which are COMPLETELY LOCKED, meaning you can even brute force a tiny overclock out.

this should be an interesting fight we have here. haswell is a stock flop with two faces vs amd's weaker, cheaper, one size fits all approach. who will come out on top?
 

ionusX

Has anyone called you a fan boy idiot lately:roll:   just anyone who follows tech stuff knows that Haswell sucks.  Why not tell me something new?  Otherwise, you are just wasting space in the forum.  PS: It would be nice if you would use spell-check at least sometimes.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overclocking-nonk-series-haswell-parts/

okay so you the user want to get a cpu for a little bit of everything. maybe do some virtualization, some gaming, and you want to verclock. guess what. you got jacked by intel as you now have to choose. WCCFtech has looked into the matter and its accurate as hell.

k series cpu's can overclock but they lack virtual ahrdware extensions making VM's impossible on K series cpu's. but they are on non-k variant which are COMPLETELY LOCKED, meaning you can even brute force a tiny overclock out.

this should be an interesting fight we have here. haswell is a stock flop with two faces vs amd's weaker, cheaper, one size fits all approach. who will come out on top?
 

--Anna--

Has anyone called you a fan boy idiot lately:roll:   just anyone who follows tech stuff knows that Haswell sucks.  Why not tell me something new?  Otherwise, you are just wasting space in the forum.  PS: It would be nice if you would use spell-check at least sometimes.

Mad status: active

[QUOTE="--Anna--"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overclocking-nonk-series-haswell-parts/

okay so you the user want to get a cpu for a little bit of everything. maybe do some virtualization, some gaming, and you want to verclock. guess what. you got jacked by intel as you now have to choose. WCCFtech has looked into the matter and its accurate as hell.

k series cpu's can overclock but they lack virtual ahrdware extensions making VM's impossible on K series cpu's. but they are on non-k variant which are COMPLETELY LOCKED, meaning you can even brute force a tiny overclock out.

this should be an interesting fight we have here. haswell is a stock flop with two faces vs amd's weaker, cheaper, one size fits all approach. who will come out on top?
 

GummiRaccoon

Has anyone called you a fan boy idiot lately:roll:   just anyone who follows tech stuff knows that Haswell sucks.  Why not tell me something new?  Otherwise, you are just wasting space in the forum.  PS: It would be nice if you would use spell-check at least sometimes.

Mad status: active

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="--Anna--"]

Has anyone called you a fan boy idiot lately:roll:   just anyone who follows tech stuff knows that Haswell sucks.  Why not tell me something new?  Otherwise, you are just wasting space in the forum.  PS: It would be nice if you would use spell-check at least sometimes.

--Anna--

Mad status: active

Whats turth?

This is for vt-d, hardware virtualization still works. It's the same thing for ivy bridge and sandy bridge.

vt-x still works.

So how much real world difference is there?

Would this prevent you from running certain VMs? Or certain software in a VM? Or just lower performance in VMs?

It was a disappointment, I think we all know that. Not worth upgrading to.

So how much real world difference is there?

Would this prevent you from running certain VMs? Or certain software in a VM? Or just lower performance in VMs?

kraken2109

it's for setting a specific pci express device to a specific virtual machine

nobody on this forum has a use for vt-d

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So how much real world difference is there?

Would this prevent you from running certain VMs? Or certain software in a VM? Or just lower performance in VMs?

JigglyWiggly_

it's for setting a specific pci express device to a specific virtual machine

nobody on this forum has a use for vt-d

[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So how much real world difference is there?

Would this prevent you from running certain VMs? Or certain software in a VM? Or just lower performance in VMs?

kraken2109

it's for setting a specific pci express device to a specific virtual machine

nobody on this forum has a use for vt-d

How about: "IonusX lied... topic title is misleading" :P

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

http://wccftech.com/intel-removes-overclocking-nonk-series-haswell-parts/

okay so you the user want to get a cpu for a little bit of everything. maybe do some virtualization, some gaming, and you want to verclock. guess what. you got jacked by intel as you now have to choose. WCCFtech has looked into the matter and its accurate as hell.

k series cpu's can overclock but they lack virtual ahrdware extensions making VM's impossible on K series cpu's. but they are on non-k variant which are COMPLETELY LOCKED, meaning you can even brute force a tiny overclock out.

this should be an interesting fight we have here. haswell is a stock flop with two faces vs amd's weaker, cheaper, one size fits all approach. who will come out on top?

--Anna--

Has anyone called you a fan boy idiot lately:roll: just anyone who follows tech stuff knows that Haswell sucks. Why not tell me something new? Otherwise, you are just wasting space in the forum. PS: It would be nice if you would use spell-check at least sometimes.

I like his posts, they are informative. If you don't like then don't read it. Simple as that.

Nothing new, Intel has always be bad as far as letting consumers do what they want with their cpu. Support the underdog and buy AMD, you'll hardly notice the difference. If it wasn't for AMD intel would probably started soldering the cpus to the motherboard by now.imprezawrx500

Zing! I think we have a winner. AMD in most cases matches intel @1080P in maxed out resolution and in Crysis 3 FX 8350 actually BEATS intel's Core i7 2600K.

Heck if you want to get a Haswell CPU you have to get a new MB because Haswell uses a new socket lolololo. Whereas if you had brought a Bulldozer CPU back in 2011 you could have upgraded to Piledriver or wait for Steamroller because they will be using the same socket.

People are ignorant and buy into intel's marketing crap.

What is the big deal here?

If you want to overclock, simply buy the K-series.

I'm still getting the Haswell E.

Blah blah blah blah blahionusX

i got fed up with intel cpu + sockets after socket 775 intels cpus are solid but fed up what there doing thats why i went amd am3+ no complaints with my cpu

[QUOTE="ionusX"]Blah blah blah blah blahFaustArp

Says the guy that bought a titan

[QUOTE="FaustArp"][QUOTE="ionusX"]Blah blah blah blah blahGummiRaccoon

Says the guy that bought a titan

[QUOTE="FaustArp"][QUOTE="ionusX"]Blah blah blah blah blahGummiRaccoon

Says the guy that bought a titan

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"] AMD CPUs are terrible.FaustArp

Says the guy that bought a titan

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"] AMD CPUs are terrible.FaustArp

Says the guy that bought a titan

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Says the guy that bought a titan

GummiRaccoon

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Says the guy that bought a titan

GummiRaccoon

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="FaustArp"]

I have no idea what that has to do with CPUs...

C_Rule

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

GummiRaccoon

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

Oh that made me laugh

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

GummiRaccoon

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

GummiRaccoon

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

i would get a road legal f3 car if I had that kind of money

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Your cognitive ability is minus, thus your judgement on what constitutes terrible is questionable.

GummiRaccoon

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

upgrading the CPU has never been something i do. I build a decent PC, keep it for 3-5 years. might swap a GPU 1 or 2 times, might upgrade the ram, add a few HDD's. Once it no longer fulfills my needs, i hand it down ot family and buy a new one :D stretching my i7 930 out now though. Might drop a better heat sink and OC it to last till skylake ( i have some heavy video editing to do later this, only have cash for fan upgrade, not CPU or PC upgrade)

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

So how much real world difference is there?

Would this prevent you from running certain VMs? Or certain software in a VM? Or just lower performance in VMs?

JigglyWiggly_

it's for setting a specific pci express device to a specific virtual machine

nobody on this forum has a use for vt-d

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="C_Rule"]
So someone who buys a Bugatti is not allowed to say; a Prius is shit?

#gummilogicC_Rule

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

:lol:

People who buy expensive things are "minus cognitive ability," and cars are not investments but Gaming PCs are.  Got it.

Anyway, what were we talking about again?  Oh yeah, stay out of my booze cabinet.

[QUOTE="ionusX"]Blah blah blah blah blahFaustArp

[QUOTE="C_Rule"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Someone that buys a bugatti has minus cognitive ability.  Cars aren't investments.

FaustArp

:lol:

People who buy expensive things are "minus cognitive ability," and cars are not investments but Gaming PCs are.  Got it.

Anyway, what were we talking about again?  Oh yeah, stay out of my booze cabinet.

Enjoy being terrible with money.

;Cars aren't investments.

GummiRaccoon

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

;Cars aren't investments.

darksusperia

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

;Cars aren't investments.

darksusperia

Jay Leno is an idiot.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

;Cars aren't investments.

kraken2109

Computers and phones aren't investments either.

[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

;Cars aren't investments.

GummiRaccoon

Jay Leno is an idiot.

What did you just say?

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="darksusperia"] Jay Leno wants a word with you.hartsickdiscipl

Jay Leno is an idiot.

What did you just say?

Captain, that phrase does not work on the internet.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Jay Leno is an idiot.

GummiRaccoon

What did you just say?

Captain, that phrase does not work on the internet.

Jay Leno is the freaking man.  

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

What did you just say?

hartsickdiscipl

Captain, that phrase does not work on the internet.

Jay Leno is the freaking man.  

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Captain, that phrase does not work on the internet.

GummiRaccoon

Jay Leno is the freaking man.  

Negatory.  What's with the Jay Leno hate?

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

 

 

Jay Leno is the freaking man.  

hartsickdiscipl

Negatory.  What's with the Jay Leno hate?

1) bad human being

2) not funny