Just wondering when will it bottleneck a gpu. Lets say i buy a new nvidia card every time they release a new series (not going over $350 per gpu), when will a replacement of the cpu be needed?
The question would be more at what reduced gpu usage does it become viable to upgrade the chip. With each iteration of gpu the bottle neck would increase but not massively, I'd be more concerned with cores being lacking.
2500k is neck to neck with even a 4790k, when it comes to games. If you are rocking that, you won't need any upgrade for the forseeable future, with regards to games.
2500k is neck to neck with even a 4790k, when it comes to games. If you are rocking that, you won't need any upgrade for the forseeable future, with regards to games.
Can I assume the same can be said for the i7 2600 (no k)?
2500k is neck to neck with even a 4790k, when it comes to games. If you are rocking that, you won't need any upgrade for the forseeable future, with regards to games.
Can I assume the same can be said for the i7 2600 (no k)?
non-k versions of the chips aren't unlocked, which means you can't overclock. Basically, any i5/i7 from Sandy Bridge forward (25*, 35*, 45* intel chips) will run games with plenty of power. Clock rate is what you should be looking for. i5 oc'ed to 4.5 or more is going to match any i7 in games.
@demi0227_basic: Whoops never mind overclocking then. Thanks :D
If you have a capable MOBO you can easily OC them 400mhz(basically their one core max Turbo Boost), and even then you can leave Turbo Boost enabled and receive a little more as long as you have good cooling.
@glez13: Thanks but I'm pretty sure my mobo is the opposite of capable... that's an upgrade I'm not looking forward, but for now it has an x16 slot so it'll do
The truth is it isn't like it was years ago. The CPU market has reached its sweet spot, they're ahead of their time as far as gaming goes. Games are also becoming less and less CPU dependent. This will be especially true once DX12 comes out and plus we've also got Mantle as well... This means your CPU could very easily last you 5+ years since games are becoming less dependent on them.
Keep in mind this game doesn't even make use of DX12 or Mantle, if you plan on playing your games on very low you will notice a CPU bottle neck but if you plan on maxing your games the CPU bottle neck disappears.
It's all going to be about what GPU you've got in your system rather than your CPU.
You should easily make it till the PS5 comes out before you have to think about upgrading I have a nearly 6 year old i7 920 that is still doing going strong even in modern games with an overclock to 4GHz and a $30 cpu cooler. Intel makes some incredible cpus with great staying power unlike amd they can no longer compete in the cpu space with intel. Super glad I spent the extra money for the i7 920 + motherboard and ram back in 2009 over a cheaper amd phenom II X4 build no way in hell that would have stayed relevant for gaming nearly as long as my i7 has and continues to be.
Just wondering when will it bottleneck a gpu. Lets say i buy a new nvidia card every time they release a new series (not going over $350 per gpu), when will a replacement of the cpu be needed?
It'll last as long as you see the performance you require out of it. As for when compared to the current CPUs - it's still a strong contender and should be able to handle the job you're asking of it.
still not many games use more then 4 threads in games. and at that nice clock speed i doubt you max out 100% on your cpu in most games.
Thats about two and a half times more clock speed then the consoles, so even though they have 8 cores, your cpu is probably still quite faster.
Check your cpu usage in games and if its not max'd out you are probably not bottlenecking the gpu that much... although some games just are badly optimized and won't use the cpu to its fullest causing it to bottleneck out no matter what cpu you have running.
It might even last so long that your CPU needs more voltage to be stable at 4.5 D=
Only reason I can see it being suddenly outdated while games not requiring a lot more of the CPU would be awful console ports leading to loads of games requiring 4+ threads.
Abit off topic but on topic at the same time. I have a I73770k and a MSI 670 2GB GTX. Is it might Graphic card what is holding me back then and not CPU?. I cant seem to have graphics on ultra at 1080p.
Abit off topic but on topic at the same time. I have a I73770k and a MSI 670 2GB GTX. Is it might Graphic card what is holding me back then and not CPU?. I cant seem to have graphics on ultra at 1080p.
That would be your GPU. GTX 970 would be a nice upgrade for you. Anything lower is pointless I think.
CPU heavy games will start to show pretty big differences. I know AC Unity isn't the most optimized game, but the CPU here matters as much as the GPU does.
CPU heavy games will start to show pretty big differences. I know AC Unity isn't the most optimized game, but the CPU here matters as much as the GPU does.
lol it takes amd most powerful chip running at 4.7 ghz to match an i3 running at 3.5ghz I wonder how my nearly 6 year old i7 920 running at 4Ghz would fair compared to amd newest chips?
CPU heavy games will start to show pretty big differences. I know AC Unity isn't the most optimized game, but the CPU here matters as much as the GPU does.
A long time. Or at least I hope so. My i7 930 is still running tough, and I've had this thing for nearly 5 years. At 4.2 Ghz, it's not as fast as the newer gen i5's and i7's, but it undoubtedly holds its own. Enough that I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by not upgrading. :)
Abit off topic but on topic at the same time. I have a I73770k and a MSI 670 2GB GTX. Is it might Graphic card what is holding me back then and not CPU?. I cant seem to have graphics on ultra at 1080p.
You could run 3 high end GPUs and you would not see any bottleneck what's so ever. It's your GPU that's holding you back. It's lacking a bit of vram. If you got a GTX 970 or R9 290(X), you'd be set for quiet sometime.
are you guys serious? im running an i5 2500k at 4.8ghz with gtx 970 msi non reference factory oc with 12gb of ram at 1600 mhz im noticing some micro stutter in multiplayer games and far cry 4 and crysis 3 also op ignore my post im not certain what my pc problem
are you guys serious? im running an i5 2500k at 4.8ghz with gtx 970 msi non reference factory oc with 12gb of ram at 1600 mhz im noticing some micro stutter in multiplayer games and far cry 4 and crysis 3 also op ignore my post im not certain what my pc problem
You should easily make it till the PS5 comes out before you have to think about upgrading I have a nearly 6 year old i7 920 that is still doing going strong even in modern games with an overclock to 4GHz and a $30 cpu cooler. Intel makes some incredible cpus with great staying power unlike amd they can no longer compete in the cpu space with intel. Super glad I spent the extra money for the i7 920 + motherboard and ram back in 2009 over a cheaper amd phenom II X4 build no way in hell that would have stayed relevant for gaming nearly as long as my i7 has and continues to be.
The x58 it is literally a 10 year platform, the best part it that you can buy a very cheap xeon x56xx that is much better than the 920, it is 32nm chip, slightly new architecture, 6 core, 12 threads, OC better 4.3-4.4GHz.
are you guys serious? im running an i5 2500k at 4.8ghz with gtx 970 msi non reference factory oc with 12gb of ram at 1600 mhz im noticing some micro stutter in multiplayer games and far cry 4 and crysis 3 also op ignore my post im not certain what my pc problem
Might need to turn settings down. That processor nor videocard should give you problems but you can't be going crazy on the settings like in Crysis 3 or Far Cry 4. GTX 970 can't perfectly run Crysis 3 at ultra high settings at 1080P, but it can come close, which is why you might stutter.
You should easily make it till the PS5 comes out before you have to think about upgrading I have a nearly 6 year old i7 920 that is still doing going strong even in modern games with an overclock to 4GHz and a $30 cpu cooler. Intel makes some incredible cpus with great staying power unlike amd they can no longer compete in the cpu space with intel. Super glad I spent the extra money for the i7 920 + motherboard and ram back in 2009 over a cheaper amd phenom II X4 build no way in hell that would have stayed relevant for gaming nearly as long as my i7 has and continues to be.
The x58 it is literally a 10 year platform, the best part it that you can buy a very cheap xeon x56xx that is much better than the 920, it is 32nm chip, slightly new architecture, 6 core, 12 threads, OC better 4.3-4.4GHz.
Shit I may have to upgrade my cpu ahead of time if this is true!
Shit I may have to upgrade my cpu ahead of time if this is true!
The x5650 cost me 69€ and I sell my 920 for 50€ so it really cost me 19€ in the end. At 4360MHz it is faster than the i7 5820K at stock clocks of course.
are you guys serious? im running an i5 2500k at 4.8ghz with gtx 970 msi non reference factory oc with 12gb of ram at 1600 mhz im noticing some micro stutter in multiplayer games and far cry 4 and crysis 3 also op ignore my post im not certain what my pc problem
Might need to turn settings down. That processor nor videocard should give you problems but you can't be going crazy on the settings like in Crysis 3 or Far Cry 4. GTX 970 can't perfectly run Crysis 3 at ultra high settings at 1080P, but it can come close, which is why you might stutter.
Hmm you sure? Because there are videos on youtube of the 970 gtx running 16x af, at least 2x msaa everything ultra at 1080p.. And it's pulling 50 to 70fps easy.
are you guys serious? im running an i5 2500k at 4.8ghz with gtx 970 msi non reference factory oc with 12gb of ram at 1600 mhz im noticing some micro stutter in multiplayer games and far cry 4 and crysis 3 also op ignore my post im not certain what my pc problem
Might need to turn settings down. That processor nor videocard should give you problems but you can't be going crazy on the settings like in Crysis 3 or Far Cry 4. GTX 970 can't perfectly run Crysis 3 at ultra high settings at 1080P, but it can come close, which is why you might stutter.
Hmm you sure? Because there are videos on youtube of the 970 gtx running 16x af, at least 2x msaa everything ultra at 1080p.. And it's pulling 50 to 70fps easy.
Been wondering about this myself today and after doing my research im going to hang on to my i5-2500k until it dies.. with reference to any microstuttering, i was plagued by this and the simple (SO SIMPLE) solution that fixed the problem for me was to go into the nVidia control panel and turn the pre-render frames to 3 and switch the adaptive sync on.. just by doing that everygame i played was silky smooth and using rivatuner to set the frame rate limit to 50fps everything is glorious.. ive since got a slightly older monitor capable of 1368x768 resolution and run my games on that on ultra settings and use my 1080p monitor as a secondary to watch films on whilst playing games at full wack... truly awesome processor..
my setup is very simple and very cheap..
Asrock P67 Pro 3 Se motherboard
I5-2500k on stock clock 3.3ghz - dont need to over clock it at all
Venom Voodoo CPU Cooler - freakin massive temps at idle are 25-30 degrees and under full load for hours and hours never goes past 60 deegrees
16Gig of the vengeance ram on stock clock
nVidia GeForce Gtx 760 2gb - stock clock
Corsair CM-750watt Psu
120Gig SSD drive - 3Tb Storage - 2Tb Storage (ripped out of a sky box - takes quite a while to get it free from its jail) - 500gb program files drive
50Gig Dual Layer Pioneer BluRay Burner - excellent for keeping things safe (out of sunlight)
All fitted inside a crappy old case from the 1980s - its a case, stuff goes inside.. with a keyboard that lights up the keys so i can switch the lights off and cool gaming mouse that changes colours..
All is good in my little world of gaming..
BF4, Batman arkham, Arma 3, Crysis, Cod, GTA5, doesnt matter what i run, CPU is never maxed out and graphics card purrs away at 65degrees and its silky glossy yum yum on screen..
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