How does HD7850 rate compared to Xbox 360 and PS3?

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#51 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] So wrong, you haven't used a capture software or device before because you can see the source franerate and or capture the raw data without capping it.04dcarraher
lol to see the frames that the console renders it would have to be a program on the console.

No you can use a pc based capture card and see the frame rate being produced from the source :roll:

not true..
#52 Posted by ferret-gamer (17319 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"] lol to see the frames that the console renders it would have to be a program on the console. _SKatEDiRt_
No you can use a pc based capture card and see the frame rate being produced from the source :roll:

not true..

Right, because what you think overrules everyone else including professional websites, and the capture cards themselves.
#53 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No you can use a pc based capture card and see the frame rate being produced from the source :roll:

not true..

Right, because what you think overrules everyone else including professional websites, and the capture cards themselves.

well they never say what they used to check the frame rate so yes pretty much I'm calling it bogus
#54 Posted by 04dcarraher (19667 posts) -
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"] not true.._SKatEDiRt_
Right, because what you think overrules everyone else including professional websites, and the capture cards themselves.

well they never say what they used to check the frame rate so yes pretty much I'm calling it bogus

No your bogus if you believe consoles cant have sub 30 fps averages
#55 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Right, because what you think overrules everyone else including professional websites, and the capture cards themselves.

well they never say what they used to check the frame rate so yes pretty much I'm calling it bogus

No your bogus if you believe consoles cant have sub 30 fps averages

I didn't say they couldn't I said that those Benchies are bogus. Putting words in my mouth?
#56 Posted by 04dcarraher (19667 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]well they never say what they used to check the frame rate so yes pretty much I'm calling it bogus_SKatEDiRt_
No your bogus if you believe consoles cant have sub 30 fps averages

I didn't say they couldn't I said that those Benchies are bogus. Putting words in my mouth?

hypocritical aren't we? if you believe consoles can have sub 30 fps rates why cant you believe that those games aren't running sub 30 at times..... I have assassins creed 3 and farcry 3 in my household on 360 and yes the frame rates are low many times, especially farcry 3.
#57 Posted by mitu123 (153911 posts) -

That guy is trolling hard.

#58 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No your bogus if you believe consoles cant have sub 30 fps averages

I didn't say they couldn't I said that those Benchies are bogus. Putting words in my mouth?

hypocritical aren't we? if you believe consoles can have sub 30 fps rates why cant you believe that those games aren't running sub 30 at times..... I have assassins creed 3 and farcry 3 in my household on 360 and yes the frame rates are low many times, especially farcry 3.

why don't I believe those benches are correct? They made up the framerate? Maybe that's why? Unless they state the program they use to benchmark the console then it's bogus. Simple
#59 Posted by 04dcarraher (19667 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"] I didn't say they couldn't I said that those Benchies are bogus. Putting words in my mouth?_SKatEDiRt_
hypocritical aren't we? if you believe consoles can have sub 30 fps rates why cant you believe that those games aren't running sub 30 at times..... I have assassins creed 3 and farcry 3 in my household on 360 and yes the frame rates are low many times, especially farcry 3.

why don't I believe those benches are correct? They made up the framerate? Maybe that's why? Unless they state the program they use to benchmark the console then it's bogus. Simple

Your bogus......
#60 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] hypocritical aren't we? if you believe consoles can have sub 30 fps rates why cant you believe that those games aren't running sub 30 at times..... I have assassins creed 3 and farcry 3 in my household on 360 and yes the frame rates are low many times, especially farcry 3.

why don't I believe those benches are correct? They made up the framerate? Maybe that's why? Unless they state the program they use to benchmark the console then it's bogus. Simple

Your bogus......

your face is bogus
#61 Posted by 04dcarraher (19667 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"] why don't I believe those benches are correct? They made up the framerate? Maybe that's why? Unless they state the program they use to benchmark the console then it's bogus. Simple_SKatEDiRt_
Your bogus......

your face is bogus

Na its real
#62 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2587 posts) -
[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Your bogus......

your face is bogus

Na its real

real bogus
#63 Posted by GioVela2010 (4018 posts) -

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

So not true

LORD_BOOZ

Carmack disagrees with u

A pc gpu "equal" to consoles would be a very small and very cheap card. An hd7850 is so not! equal to the consoles it's like Zues compared to a peasant.

Irrelevant to what you quoted
#64 Posted by kraken2109 (13070 posts) -

Read their FAQ, it shows the equipment they use for testing.

#65 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"] no it was not that low fps. If I had to guess I'd say 40 at the lowest. Unless they can prove using a real tool to measure console fps. And no it is not its lowest setting on consoles. It doesn't look as good as PC but PC looks worse on low than does a console_SKatEDiRt_

Average fps: 23.82 (Far Cry 3)

http://www.lensoftruth.com/heads-up-far-cry-3-screenshot-comparison-and-analysis/

Once again how are they measuring console fps? lol

It's not that hard.

#66 Posted by Marfoo (5994 posts) -

[QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Average fps: 23.82 (Far Cry 3)

http://www.lensoftruth.com/heads-up-far-cry-3-screenshot-comparison-and-analysis/

hartsickdiscipl

Once again how are they measuring console fps? lol

It's not that hard.

You take a recording of the video signal and you pass it through a computer algorithm that counts how many unique frames there are from which you can calculate the framerate.
#67 Posted by Metallic_Blade (259 posts) -

For anyone here who hasn't noticed severs fps drop on consoles, go and play Ratchet: Deadlocked/Gladiator on co-op mode. On one of the stages near the end of the game, I can almost guarantee you that the game will drop even bellow 20FPS. Case in point, There ARE FPS drops in console games. GTA:IV runs at sub 20's FPS on either console.

#68 Posted by ronvalencia (15129 posts) -

About 7 times more powerful according to FLOPS, but exclusive console games get twice as much performance vs Equal PC Hardware. Anyway the difference isn't super noticeable GioVela2010

AMD GCN includes hardware designs to improved stream processor usage rates.

#69 Posted by James161324 (8315 posts) -

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="_SKatEDiRt_"]your face is bogus_SKatEDiRt_
Na its real

real bogus

Your stupidity is amazing. You CAN NOT capture a viedo at a higher FPS than its being rendered at.

#71 Posted by ronvalencia (15129 posts) -

I tried to find the answer myself but everything I read was full of techno babble that went right over my head, so if someone can give a simple answer on which is better or a similar comparison, that'd be good. Also, I KNOW no one knows for sure if/when the next gen consoles are coming but do you have a theory on how a 7850 (over clocked edition) will rate against them? Considering upgrading and switching to an Nvidia card this year, just wondering how far I'll need to go to outshine the new consoles that I will, no doubt, buy as well.

Hawkeye747

AMD GCN based consoles might result in AMD "Gaming Evolved" type bias and AMD "Gaming Evolved" PC titles hasn't bypassed MS Direct3D layers.

For example,

DirtShowdown_Benchmark_Performance-635x3

#72 Posted by LORD_BOOZ (10 posts) -
[QUOTE="LORD_BOOZ"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"] Carmack disagrees with u  GioVela2010

A pc gpu "equal" to consoles would be a very small and very cheap card. An hd7850 is so not! equal to the consoles it's like Zues compared to a peasant.

Irrelevant to what you quoted

Apologies. I had scanned the first page and decided to post without looking at the other pages my bad.