gtx 680 vs hd 7970 results.. usually better but strange testbed

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#1 ionusX
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i have apparently legitimate results with a gtx 680 vs a 7970. generally they are better vs tahiti xt however sometimes they are not.

arkham city maxed out @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 57fps

hd 7970: 49fps

bf3 maxed @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 72.2fps

hd 7970: unlisted but assumed lower (whoever did the graph was a moron)

CoDmw3 maxed @ 1080p:

gtx 680 & hd 7970: tied @ 74fps

unigine:

gtx 680:46.5

hd 7970:41.5

LP2 @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 73.4fps

hd 7970: 58.5

3dmark 11: generally over hd 7970's results by 1.7k to 2k points across all presets @ 1080p

granted these were stock results

testbed was as follows:

LN2 cooled core i7 SB-e 3960x

8gb ddr3

ASUS RoG board

1200 watt psu

http://www.techpowerup.com/162498/GTX-680-Generally-Faster-Than-HD-7970-New-Benchmarks.html

here comes the pain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0zMe5pLX8

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#2 ShadowDeathX
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Seems pretty close. Most of these games are "Way it is meant to be played" optimized games. Pretty close overall though. Guess I'm switching over to AMD soon to try them out, been having a lot of Nvidia driver issues lately. -.-
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#3 adamosmaki
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now lets see its price and power consumption compared
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#4 jonleeprice
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I get more than that on MW3....i get around 85-100fps...

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#5 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tc
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#6 Silicel1
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On the hexus site post where you can see the nvidia chip the chip number looks shopped. Ill wait for release, but if anything is correct it will be more expensive then a 7970.

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#7 Truth_Hurts_U
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Looks like I'll keep my GTX 460 even longer then I would have hoped. Nvidia... what a waste of time waiting for something so meh.
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#8 ionusX
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im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcTH1Sx1SxSPARTA
im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

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#9 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcionusX

im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

what are you even talking about lol

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#10 CmdrMcNeil
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2x GTX 470s plugged into the TV and still puttering along fine. Checking some of the specs from the new Nvidia line coupled with the price not seeing a real impetus to upgrade. Not to mention haven't encountered a game that's forced me too. Certain that day is fast approaching though. Will prolly give it some time; wait for the prices to drop.

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#11 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcionusX

im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

still waiting on wtf your even talking about, or do you just make stuff up about users when your butthurt? is it my fault you have a reputation for putting down anything nvidia or intel and praising everything amd? no its not so shut the fvck up

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

still waiting on wtf your even talking about, or do you just make stuff up about users when your butthurt? is it my fault you have a reputation for putting down anything nvidia or intel and praising everything amd? no its not so shut the fvck up

Stay on topic. If you want to talk like that go on system wars. This is pc hardware, keep your petty arguments out please.
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#13 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"] im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

kraken2109

still waiting on wtf your even talking about, or do you just make stuff up about users when your butthurt? is it my fault you have a reputation for putting down anything nvidia or intel and praising everything amd? no its not so shut the fvck up

Stay on topic. If you want to talk like that go on system wars. This is pc hardware, keep your petty arguments out please.

tell that to that @sshole

sorry im on my fifth day without a cigarette :xim a little pissy and irritable lol forums probably arent where i should be right now haha

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#14 CmdrMcNeil
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[QUOTE="kraken2109"][QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"] still waiting on wtf your even talking about, or do you just make stuff up about users when your butthurt? is it my fault you have a reputation for putting down anything nvidia or intel and praising everything amd? no its not so shut the fvck up

TH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Stay on topic. If you want to talk like that go on system wars. This is pc hardware, keep your petty arguments out please.

tell that to that @sshole

sorry im on my fifth day without a cigarette :xim a little pissy and irritable lol forums probably arent where i should be right now haha

I've seen how that works out. Been underway when the cigs run out and the ship's store isn't restocked. There's murder in some of those dudes' eyes.

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#15 ronvalencia
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bf3 maxed @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 72.2fps

hd 7970: unlisted but assumed lower (whoever did the graph was a moron)

ionusX

Corrected graph for BF3.

For GTX 680, 772 --> 1006 = 30% core clock increase i.e. overclock.

For end user performance, it comes down to AIB's value added efforts i.e. the level of factory overclocks.

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#16 mitu123
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Looks like I'll keep my GTX 460 even longer then I would have hoped. Nvidia... what a waste of time waiting for something so meh.Truth_Hurts_U
What res and settings do you game at?

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I love how the damage control is right there in the title.
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im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Your handle is a combination of leet speak and a meme.

gtfo

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#19 Truth_Hurts_U
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What res and settings do you game at?mitu123
1080, med, high and ultra. What ever combo of settings work best.
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Dont trust the results, until the card is actually released to the public. The GTX 680 is suppose to have 1536 shader processors 3x the amount of a GTX 580 and it can only muster 34% increase in performance according to those, while a 7970 is only 32% faster then GTX 580 in BF3. Something is out of place about those tests.

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#21 Iantheone
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tell that to that @sshole

sorry im on my fifth day without a cigarette :xim a little pissy and irritable lol forums probably arent where i should be right now haha

TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
I feel your pain man. Ontopic: Seems like an nvidia card does better in nvidia optimised games. Will be interesting to get a larger view of performance between the 2
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#22 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] Stay on topic. If you want to talk like that go on system wars. This is pc hardware, keep your petty arguments out please.CmdrMcNeil

tell that to that @sshole

sorry im on my fifth day without a cigarette :xim a little pissy and irritable lol forums probably arent where i should be right now haha

I've seen how that works out. Been underway when the cigs run out and the ship's store isn't restocked. There's murder in some of those dudes' eyes.

haha well im trying to quit, cold turkey, the hardest way but the most effective
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im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcTH1Sx1SxSPARTA
Took the works write off my keyboard - glad I'm not the only one who notices this...
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcwhitey_rolls
Took the works write off my keyboard - glad I'm not the only one who notices this...

Been doin it for a while, posts heavily in favour of AMD. Remember that post where he said a patch was coming out for Bulldozer that would increase peformance by quite a bit? Yeah we saw how that ended up...He just cant take it when something from AMD doesnt work out like Bulldozer did. Also likes to trash Nvidia at every second and never posts anything positive about them. Soon as the new AMD cards came out he said how the crapped over Nvidia cards even though the AMD ones were the next gen cards versus Nvidia's old ones. Gets boring reading news storys just ripped from other sites to with bad English and a useless youtube link usually about wrestling for some odd reason...

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#25 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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If anything these new keplers will let AMD's GPUs come down in price because I don't think a 680 would be worth it at the price for that small a difference

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#26 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"] What res and settings do you game at?Truth_Hurts_U
1080, med, high and ultra. What ever combo of settings work best.

Depending on what FPS you want, I see far more demanding games will hurt you 460, it hurts mine, that's why I have 2.

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#27 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="whitey_rolls"][QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]im surprised you didnt flat out lie and make up numbers to favor amd tcV4LENT1NE

Took the works write off my keyboard - glad I'm not the only one who notices this...

Been doin it for a while, posts heavily in favour of AMD. Remember that post where he said a patch was coming out for Bulldozer that would increase peformance by quite a bit? Yeah we saw how that ended up...He just cant take it when something from AMD doesnt work out like Bulldozer did. Also likes to trash Nvidia at every second and never posts anything positive about them. Soon as the new AMD cards came out he said how the crapped over Nvidia cards even though the AMD ones were the next gen cards versus Nvidia's old ones. Gets boring reading news storys just ripped from other sites to with bad English and a useless youtube link usually about wrestling for some odd reason...

For AMD Bulldozer module's dual thread operations, AMD didn't double TLB L1 entries.

AMD's older K10 CPU's TLB L1 has 48 entries.

AMD's older K8 CPU's TLB L1 has 32 entries.

Intel Sandybridge core's TLB L1 has 64 entries(1).

Intel Clarkdale/Westmere's TLB L1 has 64 entries(2).

AMD stuff'ed up with Bulldozer i.e. K8's TLB L1 32 entries with added stress of 2 threads. Effectively has 16 entries per thread. It's LOL episode.

Reference
1. Link, Intel Core i5-2400

2. Link, Intel Core i5-560

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#28 whitey_rolls
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If anything these new keplers will let AMD's GPUs come down in price because I don't think a 680 would be worth it at the price for that small a difference

seanmcloughlin
Unless Nvidia determines they are say 10% better and then increase their pricing. For the past 3-4 years from what I can recall the prices have stayed fairly level, due to AMD's ridiculous pricing with their new GPU's we could see a price jump for Nvidia as well.
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haha well im trying to quit, cold turkey, the hardest way but the most effectiveTH1Sx1SxSPARTA
Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

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#30 Truth_Hurts_U
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Depending on what FPS you want, I see far more demanding games will hurt you 460, it hurts mine, that's why I have 2.mitu123
It's got DDR3 1866MHz backing it along with 2600k OC'ed to 3.8 GHz. I get good frames 50-60 most games. Newest NV driver let me fully max Skyrim out with HD texture pack. Runs like butter. I wanted a bigger jump. All this trash talk made it seem it was gonna stomp AMD into the dirt. More like a baby slap across their face. But they are months late to the party. Is more of a joke then anything.
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Since their performance is so closed, it will be depending on price. I think these 2 cards are cost more than $500. It is a little bid too much for me.
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]haha well im trying to quit, cold turkey, the hardest way but the most effectivetequilasunriser

Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFF
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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]haha well im trying to quit, cold turkey, the hardest way but the most effectiveTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFF

Translation: I wanna cry like a baby, poor me.

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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"] im surpised you have the pair to post here again after the whooping in gave you last time

kraken2109

still waiting on wtf your even talking about, or do you just make stuff up about users when your butthurt? is it my fault you have a reputation for putting down anything nvidia or intel and praising everything amd? no its not so shut the fvck up

Stay on topic. If you want to talk like that go on system wars. This is pc hardware, keep your petty arguments out please.

System wars are not about "fanboy" wars..

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#35 ronvalencia
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Dont trust the results, until the card is actually released to the public. The GTX 680 is suppose to have 1536 shader processors 3x the amount of a GTX 580 and it can only muster 34% increase in performance according to those, while a 7970 is only 32% faster then GTX 580 in BF3. Something is out of place about those tests.

04dcarraher

ROPs could be bottlenecking these stream processor monsters. There are professional GpGPU markets that doesn't rely on ROPs.

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#36 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

GummiRaccoon

who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFF

Translation: I wanna cry like a baby, poor me.

lmao, **yawn** did you think that one up yourself? is tequilla your butt buddy or something, so you gotta step in? this poor thread got off topic raped by the butthurt fanboys, im sorry i said anything tc, didnt realize you guys took it so personal
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"] who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFFTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Translation: I wanna cry like a baby, poor me.

lmao, **yawn** did you think that one up yourself? is tequilla your butt buddy or something, so you gotta step in? this poor thread got off topic raped by the butthurt fanboys, im sorry i said anything tc, didnt realize you guys took it so personal

yeah stfu and gtfo kkthxbai

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#38 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

Translation: I wanna cry like a baby, poor me.

GummiRaccoon

lmao, **yawn** did you think that one up yourself? is tequilla your butt buddy or something, so you gotta step in? this poor thread got off topic raped by the butthurt fanboys, im sorry i said anything tc, didnt realize you guys took it so personal

yeah stfu and gtfo kkthxbai

lol
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[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"] lmao, **yawn** did you think that one up yourself? is tequilla your butt buddy or something, so you gotta step in? this poor thread got off topic raped by the butthurt fanboys, im sorry i said anything tc, didnt realize you guys took it so personalTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

yeah stfu and gtfo kkthxbai

lol

Hi my name is this is sparta, I am edgy because I use leetspeak, lol >.< I mean l33t $p33k, and I reference popular movies and I smoke. Oh wait I just quit smoking but I am going to cry about it like a blubbering vagina.

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Nice derailing here, though I agree with the regular skewing of results.
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[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]haha well im trying to quit, cold turkey, the hardest way but the most effectiveTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFF

You're not doing a good job of trolling us softly. ;)
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#42 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

yeah stfu and gtfo kkthxbai

GummiRaccoon

lol

Hi my name is this is sparta, I am edgy because I use leetspeak, lol >.< I mean l33t $p33k, and I reference popular movies and I smoke. Oh wait I just quit smoking but I am going to cry about it like a blubbering vagina.

your really using all your brain power for this one arent ya? have fun
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#43 TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"][QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] Well pissing and moaning about it won't help. Man up and quit being a sissy about it.

tequilasunriser

who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFF

You're not doing a good job of trolling us softly. ;)

i never troll in the first place except dumbass tc, lol he still hasnt came back to explain what he was even talking about hahah i have no clue

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#44 tequilasunriser
Member since 2004 • 6379 Posts
i never troll in the first place TH1Sx1SxSPARTA
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#45 GummiRaccoon
Member since 2003 • 13799 Posts

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"][QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"] who cares. i wasnt talking to you, i just gave a reason as to why i jumped on tc a bit. FVCK OFFTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

You're not doing a good job of trolling us softly. ;)

i never troll in the first place except dumbass tc, lol he still hasnt came back to explain what he was even talking about hahah i have no clue

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#46 Silicel1
Member since 2005 • 2342 Posts

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]

[QUOTE="tequilasunriser"] You're not doing a good job of trolling us softly. ;)GummiRaccoon

i never troll in the first place except dumbass tc, lol he still hasnt came back to explain what he was even talking about hahah i have no clue

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#47 ronvalencia
Member since 2008 • 29612 Posts

i have apparently legitimate results with a gtx 680 vs a 7970. generally they are better vs tahiti xt however sometimes they are not.

arkham city maxed out @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 57fps

hd 7970: 49fps

bf3 maxed @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 72.2fps

hd 7970: unlisted but assumed lower (whoever did the graph was a moron)

CoDmw3 maxed @ 1080p:

gtx 680 & hd 7970: tied @ 74fps

unigine:

gtx 680:46.5

hd 7970:41.5

LP2 @ 1080p:

gtx 680: 73.4fps

hd 7970: 58.5

3dmark 11: generally over hd 7970's results by 1.7k to 2k points across all presets @ 1080p

granted these were stock results

testbed was as follows:

LN2 cooled core i7 SB-e 3960x

8gb ddr3

ASUS RoG board

1200 watt psu

http://www.techpowerup.com/162498/GTX-680-Generally-Faster-Than-HD-7970-New-Benchmarks.html

here comes the pain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN0zMe5pLX8

ionusX

"I was expecting more from the GTX 680."

link

Default clock speed for AMD Radeon HD 7970.

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#48 blaznwiipspman1
Member since 2007 • 16538 Posts

whats wrong with those results? It seems reasonable, and btw increasing shader count DOES NOT mean better performance across the board. It just means the card will handle shader heavy games better and thats all it means.

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#49 blaznwiipspman1
Member since 2007 • 16538 Posts

oh yeah that reminds me...nvidia claimed "GeForce GTX 680 Is 40% Faster Than AMD Radeon HD 7970". Heres the link:

http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/windows/GeForce-GTX-680-Is-40-faster-than-AMD-Radeon-HD-7970-Review-258452.shtml

in reality the 680 ends up about 3-10% faster in most cases like ive been predicting all along...well looks like nvidia just ownd themselves, heres a pic of ownage:

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#50 Malta_1980
Member since 2008 • 11890 Posts

So far i'm fine with my current specs.. looks like performance wise these 2 new cards are close so it all comes down to price...

I'll probably get the HD7970 later on this summer..