GTX 460 1gb vs HD 6850

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#1 Nick3306
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6850- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

GTX460- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130565

which one should I get?

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#2 heretrix
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Lol. I just ordered the GTX 460 this morning from newegg. That was my choice. I just happen to like Nvidia cards a lot more.In my experience their drivers have always been more stable than the Catalyst drivers..BUT that's just been my experience.

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#3 Nick3306
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Ya i have had really good experiences with nvidia and EVGA but im still interested in what one is better.
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#4 heretrix
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From what I've read the difference is minimal with the ATI card coming out slightly ahead in benchmarks. So I think it really boils down to what your preference is. I don't think either card would be a bad choice for that price point.

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#5 C_Rule
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Ya i have had really good experiences with nvidia and EVGA but im still interested in what one is better.Nick3306

If you're willing to pay the extra 10-20 dollars, the 460 is definitely the better of the two.

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Both of them are about equal, so unless you're comfortable with overclocking a 460 I would say get the 6850. You'll also be able to crossfire it in the future if your motherboard supports crossfire.
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a GTX 460 1gig at reference is slightly slower then a 6850 but as you overclock, it will surpass a overclock 6850 (power constraints hold it back) and can match up to a 6870 oced (6870 wins though). Also, certain games run better on AMD and certain run better on Nvidia cards. That is something to also take note.

Though its very hard to find good reviews, there is one pretty good review that demonstrates the max potential of a gtx 460 1gig, 6850, and 6870...

Be sure to read Hardwarecanucks overclock study 460 1gig, 6850, 6870.

I have personally been recommending that EVGA gtx 460 1gb card. The price is very nice for what you ae getting. Add in the 75% chance of getting the MIR (Mine came in 3 weeks after I sent it in but you never know) then the card is a complete steal at $159.99

If you're willing to pay the extra 10-20 dollars, the 460 is definitely the better of the two.

C_Rule

I think you mean if your willing to save 5-25 dollars, then the 460 is the better of the two.. the EVGa card is $179.99(159.99MIR) compared to the Sapphire $184.99

Pretty much My price to performance list right now is

  1. 5770 if $100 or less
  2. GTX 460 768mb $120-160
  3. GTX 460 1gig>6850 $160-200
  4. 6870>GTX 460 1gig superclocks> 5850 & 6850's $200-250 (This flips all the time due to price wars, personal heat and power constraints)
  5. 5870 $250-300
  6. GTX 570 $350
  7. GTX 580 $500

Cards I def wouldn't touch anymore unless extremely cheap or just to good of a deal, DX10 cards at this point, 5830, GTX 465, GTX 470, GTX 480, 5970 (new AMD cards coming so don't worry wityh the 5970)

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#8 Nick3306
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Thank you, I was planning on overclocking it a bit so i will stick with the 460.
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The GTX 460 is super easy to overclock, and most of them OC to the point where you're close to GTX 470 performance without tweaking voltage. Plus it runs very cool and doesn't make noise. Really a winner all the way around. The 6850 is a great card too, right about on par with a stock GTX 460 1GB. But who leaves a GTX 460 at stock clocks?

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#10 SoraX64
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The Sapphire 6870 is down to $239.99 if you don't mind paying a bit more.
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#11 jedikevin2
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Is actually $244 as it has shipping.. $180 to $244 is a pretty big jump. 64 dollars to me is more then a "bit more"
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gtx 460
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i'd wait until later this week to see what happens with the 10.12 catalyst drivers. the 68xx series isnt even fully supported by drivers yet (which is horse 'stuff'). pretty sure there's going to be significant performance increases with some games in that huge 1gb download. if not, i'll go emo.
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Is actually $244 as it has shipping.. $180 to $244 is a pretty big jump. 64 dollars to me is more then a "bit more"jedikevin2
Well when you're talking about computer components, where you build rigs upwards of $1000, $64 isn't really all that much.
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#15 Nick3306
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]Is actually $244 as it has shipping.. $180 to $244 is a pretty big jump. 64 dollars to me is more then a "bit more"SoraX64
Well when you're talking about computer components, where you build rigs upwards of $1000, $64 isn't really all that much.

Yes, it is. Considering I am on my way to college and that can get quite expensive.
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#16 SoraX64
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[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]Is actually $244 as it has shipping.. $180 to $244 is a pretty big jump. 64 dollars to me is more then a "bit more"Nick3306
Well when you're talking about computer components, where you build rigs upwards of $1000, $64 isn't really all that much.

Yes, it is. Considering I am on my way to college and that can get quite expensive.

Well, I wasn't supposed to know that. You didn't say you were on a budget and you wanted to know which to choose between those two cards. I contributed an answer, and then afterwards threw another option out there in case the deal was attractive to you.
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[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="jedikevin2"]Is actually $244 as it has shipping.. $180 to $244 is a pretty big jump. 64 dollars to me is more then a "bit more"Nick3306
Well when you're talking about computer components, where you build rigs upwards of $1000, $64 isn't really all that much.

Yes, it is. Considering I am on my way to college and that can get quite expensive.

If you are already spending $1000, $64 is not a lot. I am in college, I know.
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#18 jedikevin2
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Well Nicks, I hope you got the EVGA card because its sold out now. Guess you weren't the only one looking at that deal.
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Both of them are about equal, so unless you're comfortable with overclocking a 460 I would say get the 6850. You'll also be able to crossfire it in the future if your motherboard supports crossfire.SoraX64
The GTX 460 is extremely OC-friendly. The best experience I've had with OC'ing. Newcomers to overclocking a GPU will feel right at home and the GTX 460 overclocks like a beast.
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[QUOTE="SoraX64"]Both of them are about equal, so unless you're comfortable with overclocking a 460 I would say get the 6850. You'll also be able to crossfire it in the future if your motherboard supports crossfire.Elann2008
The GTX 460 is extremely OC-friendly. The best experience I've had with OC'ing. Newcomers to overclocking a GPU will feel right at home and the GTX 460 overclocks like a beast.

I have to agree. I'm not a newbie to overclocking, but the 460 was definitely the easiest for me. You're almost guaranteed to get over 800mhz stable without touching voltages.

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Well Nicks, I hope you got the EVGA card because its sold out now. Guess you weren't the only one looking at that deal.jedikevin2
There are still several versions of the same card on sale at Newegg..

For example The GTX 460 that I bought from them yesterday has exactly the same specs but instead of a 2 year warranty and a 20 dollar rebate, it has a lifetime warranty and a 30 dollar rebate for 10 bucks more.

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Nah... At the moment, nothing really special sale wise is going on in the gtx 460 on newegg. Each week there is a great deal such as this EVGA card. Last week was the MSI gtx 460 Hawk which was outrageously cheap and this week was the EVGA card which as sold out. I keep up with these deals and each weekend, give members some of the best prices. At the moment, nothing is quiet touching the great price to performance, free shipping, free game, etc right now in the 1gig cards.

Now if we roll back to the GTX 460 768mb range, the Asus gtx 460 768 is back to 149.99(129.99 MIR free shipping)

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^^ lol. I didn't mean "sale" sale, just other EVGA 1 gig GTX 460 cards being sold.

I do think the version I bought with the lifetime warranty is the better deal @ 10 bucks more.

Lifetime warranty >>>>>>>>>> 2 years .

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I learned a long time back... Lifetime warranties are a joke (lolled on BFG, PNY, and EVGA before). So many stipulations, so many things for you to get loled on. Add in gtx 460's are meant for overclocking and many times ToU warranty clauses allow companies to pull a fast one on you... just usually now worth it unless prices are really similiar but even then I would say Nah.

Trust me... that little EVGa clause of "damage during modification of any kind" is a BIGGY...

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I learned a long time back... Lifetime warranties are a joke. So many stipulations, so many things for you to get loled on. Add in gtx 460's are meant for overclocking and many times ToU warranty clauses allow companies to pull a fast one on you... just usually now worth it unless prices are really similiar but even then I would say Nah.jedikevin2
I'm not a big over clocker so that doesn't bother me. I usually use my cards stock.

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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]I learned a long time back... Lifetime warranties are a joke. So many stipulations, so many things for you to get loled on. Add in gtx 460's are meant for overclocking and many times ToU warranty clauses allow companies to pull a fast one on you... just usually now worth it unless prices are really similiar but even then I would say Nah.heretrix

I'm not a big over clocker so that doesn't bother me. I usually use my cards stock.

It's a waste to use a GTX 460 stock. You can take it to a different level of performance by taking a few minutes to overclock it.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]I learned a long time back... Lifetime warranties are a joke. So many stipulations, so many things for you to get loled on. Add in gtx 460's are meant for overclocking and many times ToU warranty clauses allow companies to pull a fast one on you... just usually now worth it unless prices are really similiar but even then I would say Nah.hartsickdiscipl

I'm not a big over clocker so that doesn't bother me. I usually use my cards stock.

It's a waste to use a GTX 460 stock. You can take it to a different level of performance by taking a few minutes to overclock it.

It's not a waste, I don't care. I have GTX 260 right now and I can play everything I have at perfectly acceptable levels. The only reason I;m getting the 460 is because I'm going to use the 260 in the PC in my bedroom which isn't really used for gaming.Since I'm getting a new card, I might as well get an upgrade.

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]I'm not a big over clocker so that doesn't bother me. I usually use my cards stock.

heretrix

It's a waste to use a GTX 460 stock. You can take it to a different level of performance by taking a few minutes to overclock it.

It's not a waste, I don't care. I have GTX 260 right now and I can play everything I have at perfectly acceptable levels. The only reason I;m getting the 460 is because I'm going to use the 260 in the PC in my bedroom which isn't really used for gaming.Since I'm getting a new card, I might as well get an upgrade.

Not taking free guaranteed performance = waste.

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#30 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

It's a waste to use a GTX 460 stock. You can take it to a different level of performance by taking a few minutes to overclock it.

hartsickdiscipl

It's not a waste, I don't care. I have GTX 260 right now and I can play everything I have at perfectly acceptable levels. The only reason I;m getting the 460 is because I'm going to use the 260 in the PC in my bedroom which isn't really used for gaming.Since I'm getting a new card, I might as well get an upgrade.

Not taking free guaranteed performance = waste.

Again, I don't care and neither should you. Deal with it I spend my money as I see ift and use the things I buy the same way.

I don't tell you how to use your stuff when you don't ask do I?

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[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]It's not a waste, I don't care. I have GTX 260 right now and I can play everything I have at perfectly acceptable levels. The only reason I;m getting the 460 is because I'm going to use the 260 in the PC in my bedroom which isn't really used for gaming.Since I'm getting a new card, I might as well get an upgrade.

heretrix

Not taking free guaranteed performance = waste.

Again, I don't care and neither should you. Deal with it I spend my money as I see ift and use the things I buy the same way.

I don't tell you how to use your stuff when you don't ask do I?

Lol.. wow. You got really upset about that. I just don't like to see good hardware go to waste :P

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Well Nicks, I hope you got the EVGA card because its sold out now. Guess you weren't the only one looking at that deal.jedikevin2
Ha ya i saw, i ordered the superclocked EE one this mourning so it all good anyway. Plus I get just cause 2 for free, who can turn down that deal?
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Not taking free guaranteed performance = waste.

hartsickdiscipl

Again, I don't care and neither should you. Deal with it I spend my money as I see ift and use the things I buy the same way.

I don't tell you how to use your stuff when you don't ask do I?

Lol.. wow. You got really upset about that. I just don't like to see good hardware go to waste :P

Sorry man. Lol. I just read how that came out. Apologies. Overclocking the card just isn't really important to me that's all.

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#34 heretrix
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]Well Nicks, I hope you got the EVGA card because its sold out now. Guess you weren't the only one looking at that deal.Nick3306
Ha ya i saw, i ordered the superclocked EE one this mourning so it all good anyway. Plus I get just cause 2 for free, who can turn down that deal?

Yeah, I got that as well. It's too bad I already bought it and finished it awhile ago.I guess I'll give it away to someone that wants it.