Good Upgrade for my 9600GT???

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#1 Posted by darkmask1991 (817 posts) -

Hello all! My ASUS 9600GT is starting to lag behind in recent games so Im starting to look for some upgrade options. What GPU do you recommend me? Here are the Criteria: * 1.5 to 2x more performance than my current one. * Not too hot (My cooling is not that great and my region´s climate is a bit hot) * Low budget ($100 - $150 or euro) * Not power hungry(I have a 500 watt PSU) * Good performance in 1680x1050 or at least 1280x1024 Based on YOUR EXPERIENCE what would be the best card for me? Thanks! P.S- Should I upgrade my e6400?

#2 Posted by 04dcarraher (18956 posts) -
#3 Posted by darkmask1991 (817 posts) -

Yeah but I dont think my PSU can handle it. Also I´ve read heating issues with that card. thanks though.

#4 Posted by simardbrad (2355 posts) -

Yeah but I dont think my PSU can handle it. Also I´ve read heating issues with that card. thanks though.

darkmask1991

You will read about heating issue on any freakin' card on the market. When you read about it on NVIDIA cards, it's dumbass ATI fanboys and vice versa.

#5 Posted by CellAnimation (6116 posts) -
I don't know what kind of power supply you have but a decent 400W will run a 460 without issue. As for the heat, they produce something like 1/2 the heat of a GTX 470.
#6 Posted by 04dcarraher (18956 posts) -

Yeah but I dont think my PSU can handle it. Also I´ve read heating issues with that card. thanks though.

darkmask1991
GTX 460 only needs 160w from psu at max, It will run on a 450w psu
#7 Posted by Empirefrtw (1324 posts) -

I would hold off on the graphics card until you can get something better then a e6400 that is pretty old and will bottle neck something like a 460gtx horribly.

#8 Posted by 04dcarraher (18956 posts) -

I would hold off on the graphics card until you can get something better then a e6400 that is pretty old and will bottle neck something like a 460gtx horribly.

Empirefrtw
No , it wont bottleneck a GTX 460 enough where he will see it,
#9 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

Actually I've used a 5870 and a GTX 460 1GB. The GTX 460 with a decent overclock runs significantly cooler than the 5870. Heat is not an issue for the GTX 460's. It can be an issue for the GTX 470 and 480.

#10 Posted by acsam12304 (3387 posts) -

Yeah but I dont think my PSU can handle it. Also I´ve read heating issues with that card. thanks though.

darkmask1991

not at all i have a GTX 460 1GB 256 bit and right now its running on idle 30*C-39*C

#11 Posted by simardbrad (2355 posts) -

Graphics card temperatures are always super effected by ambient temperatures. When I'm back at my parent's house everything runs 10-15 degrees celcius colder. When I'm here in my boiling hot apartment everything runs warmer, so I turn up my fan speeds.

#12 Posted by Empirefrtw (1324 posts) -
[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"]

I would hold off on the graphics card until you can get something better then a e6400 that is pretty old and will bottle neck something like a 460gtx horribly.

04dcarraher
No , it wont bottleneck a GTX 460 enough where he will see it,

Umm I'm pretty sure it will this isn't a e8400 but a e6400 that has 2.14ghz that is a huge bottleneck on games that use the cpu.
#13 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Empirefrtw"]

I would hold off on the graphics card until you can get something better then a e6400 that is pretty old and will bottle neck something like a 460gtx horribly.

Empirefrtw

No , it wont bottleneck a GTX 460 enough where he will see it,

Umm I'm pretty sure it will this isn't a e8400 but a e6400 that has 2.14ghz that is a huge bottleneck on games that use the cpu.

You are correct. A 2.13ghz Core 2 Duo will be a large bottleneck to a GTX 460 in most games.

To the topic creator- I would recommend upgrading your CPU or motherboard and CPU before doing a significant GPU upgrade. Or, you could overclock your current CPU if you want to. Quite a bit of performance can be gained that way, especially with a Core 2 Duo.

#14 Posted by 04dcarraher (18956 posts) -

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="Empirefrtw"]

I would hold off on the graphics card until you can get something better then a e6400 that is pretty old and will bottle neck something like a 460gtx horribly.

Empirefrtw

No , it wont bottleneck a GTX 460 enough where he will see it,

Umm I'm pretty sure it will this isn't a e8400 but a e6400 that has 2.14ghz that is a huge bottleneck on games that use the cpu.

It all depends on the game. Also I remember a test done that showeda E6600, with a 5870 above 1440x900 resolutions performed nearly same as a i7 even at 3.5 ghz with a gpu focused game like Crysis. And another test that showed a GTX 295 and a with under clocked i7 at 2ghz vs a 3.4 ghz i7 showed only a 2-3 fps difference on average. So even with a E6400 it wont be a big bottleneck for most games. No matter what going from a 9600gt to a GTX 460 will be a 2x in performance for him no matter what speed his cpu is.

#15 Posted by KhanhAgE (1345 posts) -

[QUOTE="Empirefrtw"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] No , it wont bottleneck a GTX 460 enough where he will see it, 04dcarraher

Umm I'm pretty sure it will this isn't a e8400 but a e6400 that has 2.14ghz that is a huge bottleneck on games that use the cpu.

It all depends on the game. Also I remember a test done that showeda E6600, with a 5870 above 1440x900 resolutions performed nearly same as a i7 even at 3.5 ghz with a gpu focused game like Crysis. And another test that showed a GTX 295 and a with under clocked i7 at 2ghz vs a 3.4 ghz i7 showed only a 2-3 fps difference on average. So even with a E6400 it wont be a big bottleneck for most games. No matter what going from a 9600gt to a GTX 460 will be a 2x in performance for him no matter what speed his cpu is.

It also depends upon whether the game is running DirectX 9, 10 or 11. DirectX 11 games are heavily dependent on the GPU, whereas in DirectX 9 games the CPU can have a large impact on performance.
#16 Posted by Artas1984 (40 posts) -

Overclock that E6400! Make 7X400 MHz FSB or 8X366 MHz FSB on 1,35V and you are good to go.

Amazing if you can get a GTX 460 for 150$. The cheapest i can get is 250.

#17 Posted by swehunt (3637 posts) -

Yeah but I dont think my PSU can handle it. Also I´ve read heating issues with that card. thanks though.

darkmask1991
I don't think it has a heating problem. GTX460 is very cool cards, they generally have exellent temperatures. What is the name and bran of your PSU, just about any 500w would be sufficient for that card.
#18 Posted by JohnF111 (14009 posts) -

I got a 5770 as an upgrade from my 9600GT... seems ok so far might wanna check that card out.

Edit: Stop underestimating your PSU, you could probably do a SLI on a 500W.... 450W will have a lot of room left for overspill. I used a 9600GT with dual-core and 2Gb ram, 2 HDD's and i did a powerusage test and was 308W... thats 142W leftover... Or realistically about 100W.