For anyone who like to fiddle with windows

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#1 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

Tonight I came up with an idea which actually works so well, that I would like to ask some people who like to fiddle with windows to give it a try and share your expierences.

What you need:

A fast PC and internet connection and enough physical RAM to spare, say anything higher then 8 Gb. In this example I'll use my own setup:

i7, 12 Gb RAM, 50 Mbps internet connection.

1) Create a virtual RAMdisc using this freeware of at least 1 Gb. This will be a closed block in your physcial RAM that's permanently in use and is made into a drive.

2) Redirect your browser cache to this RAM drive.

3) Enjoy your new superfast cached internet. Sites (provided that they are hosted on a fast server) open almost instantaneously. It's ridiculous how well this works.

#2 Posted by _SKatEDiRt_ (2589 posts) -

Tonight I came up with an idea which actually works so well, that I would like to ask some people who like to fiddle with windows to give it a try and share your expierences.

What you need:

A fast PC and internet connection and enough physical RAM to spare, say anything higher then 8 Gb. In this example I'll use my own setup:

i7, 12 Gb RAM, 50 Mbps internet connection.

1) Create a virtual RAMdisc using this freeware of at least 1 Gb. This will be a closed block in your physcial RAM that's permanently in use and is made into a drive.

2) Redirect your browser cache to this RAM drive.

3) Enjoy your new superfast cached internet. Sites (provided that they are hosted on a fast server) open almost instantaneously. It's ridiculous how well this works.

geitenvla
nice man !
#3 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

Tonight I came up with an idea which actually works so well, that I would like to ask some people who like to fiddle with windows to give it a try and share your expierences.

What you need:

A fast PC and internet connection and enough physical RAM to spare, say anything higher then 8 Gb. In this example I'll use my own setup:

i7, 12 Gb RAM, 50 Mbps internet connection.

1) Create a virtual RAMdisc using this freeware of at least 1 Gb. This will be a closed block in your physcial RAM that's permanently in use and is made into a drive.

2) Redirect your browser cache to this RAM drive.

3) Enjoy your new superfast cached internet. Sites (provided that they are hosted on a fast server) open almost instantaneously. It's ridiculous how well this works.

geitenvla
Great idea dude, but useless, lol.... Still a fun weekend project though.
#4 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

[QUOTE="geitenvla"]

Tonight I came up with an idea which actually works so well, that I would like to ask some people who like to fiddle with windows to give it a try and share your expierences.

What you need:

A fast PC and internet connection and enough physical RAM to spare, say anything higher then 8 Gb. In this example I'll use my own setup:

i7, 12 Gb RAM, 50 Mbps internet connection.

1) Create a virtual RAMdisc using this freeware of at least 1 Gb. This will be a closed block in your physcial RAM that's permanently in use and is made into a drive.

2) Redirect your browser cache to this RAM drive.

3) Enjoy your new superfast cached internet. Sites (provided that they are hosted on a fast server) open almost instantaneously. It's ridiculous how well this works.

FelipeInside

Great idea dude, but useless, lol.... Still a fun weekend project though.

Ok, but why does it work on both my gaming rig and my 5 year old laptop? Have you tried it? It isn't really a weekend project, five minutes of your time will be enough.

#5 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="geitenvla"]

Tonight I came up with an idea which actually works so well, that I would like to ask some people who like to fiddle with windows to give it a try and share your expierences.

What you need:

A fast PC and internet connection and enough physical RAM to spare, say anything higher then 8 Gb. In this example I'll use my own setup:

i7, 12 Gb RAM, 50 Mbps internet connection.

1) Create a virtual RAMdisc using this freeware of at least 1 Gb. This will be a closed block in your physcial RAM that's permanently in use and is made into a drive.

2) Redirect your browser cache to this RAM drive.

3) Enjoy your new superfast cached internet. Sites (provided that they are hosted on a fast server) open almost instantaneously. It's ridiculous how well this works.

geitenvla

Great idea dude, but useless, lol.... Still a fun weekend project though.

Ok, but why does it work on both my gaming rig and my 5 year old laptop? Have you tried it? It isn't really a weekend project, five minutes of your time will be enough.

I never said it didn't work, I just said it was a bit useless, lol.....
#6 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

[QUOTE="geitenvla"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] Great idea dude, but useless, lol.... Still a fun weekend project though.FelipeInside

Ok, but why does it work on both my gaming rig and my 5 year old laptop? Have you tried it? It isn't really a weekend project, five minutes of your time will be enough.

I never said it didn't work, I just said it was a bit useless, lol.....

I'm seriously gaining speed in site loading. How is that useless?

#7 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="geitenvla"]

Ok, but why does it work on both my gaming rig and my 5 year old laptop? Have you tried it? It isn't really a weekend project, five minutes of your time will be enough.

geitenvla

I never said it didn't work, I just said it was a bit useless, lol.....

I'm seriously gaining speed in site loading. How is that useless?

You aren't gaining speed, it just seems that way cause of the RAMDisk Caching.

Caching also sometimes makes you see an outdated website when not configured properly.

I guess for a really old slow computer it might have it's advantages, but in today's day and age with a normal PC and good internet, it's not worth it imo.

Now, using that idea of yours for File Transfer, there it can have it's advantages.

#8 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

[QUOTE="geitenvla"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"] I never said it didn't work, I just said it was a bit useless, lol.....FelipeInside

I'm seriously gaining speed in site loading. How is that useless?

You aren't gaining speed, it just seems that way cause of the RAMDisk Caching.

Caching also sometimes makes you see an outdated website when not configured properly.

I guess for a really old slow computer it might have it's advantages, but in today's day and age with a normal PC and good internet, it's not worth it imo.

Now, using that idea of yours for File Transfer, there it can have it's advantages.

I'm willing to make a fool out of myself by saying that it does work. At least here it does on two separate systems. It doesn't seem like it's faster, it actually is. Try it!

#9 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

[QUOTE="geitenvla"]

I'm seriously gaining speed in site loading. How is that useless?

geitenvla

You aren't gaining speed, it just seems that way cause of the RAMDisk Caching.

Caching also sometimes makes you see an outdated website when not configured properly.

I guess for a really old slow computer it might have it's advantages, but in today's day and age with a normal PC and good internet, it's not worth it imo.

Now, using that idea of yours for File Transfer, there it can have it's advantages.

I'm willing to make a fool out of myself by saying that it does work. At least here it does on two separate systems. It doesn't seem like it's faster, it actually is. Try it!

It's ok dude. If you think it's faster and it's helping you out then that's fine.
#10 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

[QUOTE="geitenvla"]

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"]

You aren't gaining speed, it just seems that way cause of the RAMDisk Caching.

Caching also sometimes makes you see an outdated website when not configured properly.

I guess for a really old slow computer it might have it's advantages, but in today's day and age with a normal PC and good internet, it's not worth it imo.

Now, using that idea of yours for File Transfer, there it can have it's advantages.

FelipeInside

I'm willing to make a fool out of myself by saying that it does work. At least here it does on two separate systems. It doesn't seem like it's faster, it actually is. Try it!

It's ok dude. If you think it's faster and it's helping you out then that's fine.

Ok, I'll take the fall for this... but it would be nice of you to explain the error in my thinking instead off cutting me of like that. Why isn't it possible, according to you, to notice any difference?

Caching from the net (or in general) means two thing imo:

1) It has to be loaded from the net to your drive
2) It has to be loaded from the drive to your RAM

So, direct writing to RAM would skip both steps and read/write the data direct into the MUCH faster (than any given harddrive) physical system memory which also happens to relieve the drive from caching activities.

Now, I'm not saying I improved my internet speed beyond belief, but my internet feels more seamless. Before I wrote my cache directly to RAM, pages sometimes had to load for 2 or 3 seconds; a good example would be google.maps. Also, most of the times the page has to build up while it's on screen (load vids, pics etc,). Normaly, this goes fast... now that I redirected my cache it goes almost instantaneous. I really can feel the difference.

It's ok if you don't think it's working, but at least tell me why it would never work or try it out yourself and share that expierence.

#11 Posted by kraken2109 (13075 posts) -

This should only work in theory if your internet connection is faster than your hard drive, which isn't going to happen.

#12 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

[QUOTE="FelipeInside"][QUOTE="geitenvla"]

I'm willing to make a fool out of myself by saying that it does work. At least here it does on two separate systems. It doesn't seem like it's faster, it actually is. Try it!

geitenvla

It's ok dude. If you think it's faster and it's helping you out then that's fine.

Ok, I'll take the fall for this... but it would be nice of you to explain the error in my thinking instead off cutting me of like that. Why isn't it possible, according to you, to notice any difference?

Caching from the net (or in general) means two thing imo:

1) It has to be loaded from the net to your drive
2) It has to be loaded from the drive to your RAM

So, direct writing to RAM would skip both steps and read/write the data direct into the MUCH faster (than any given harddrive) physical system memory which also happens to relieve the drive from caching activities.

Now, I'm not saying I improved my internet speed beyond belief, but my internet feels more seamless. Before I wrote my cache directly to RAM, pages sometimes had to load for 2 or 3 seconds; a good example would be google.maps. Also, most of the times the page has to build up while it's on screen (load vids, pics etc,). Normaly, this goes fast... now that I redirected my cache it goes almost instantaneous. I really can feel the difference.

It's ok if you don't think it's working, but at least tell me why it would never work or try it out yourself and share that expierence.

The only reason I can see that you might be seeing a speed difference is because your PC (the old one mostly) is slow and therefore the caching give the illusion of faster Internet. The caching thing is only really necessary if you have really limited bandwidth or you need to have lots of PCs downloading at the same time. For 1-2 CURRENT PCs it's useless to set up since the HDD/RAM/PC will be 100 times faster than your Internet Connection. Like I said before too, you can get outdated webpages. Now, there has been 4 different people (apart from me) that have told you that it's not worth it (here and in the other thread you created). If you still want to believe it is, that's fine, I have nothing against it.
#13 Posted by geitenvla (960 posts) -

To all of you who doubt my speed increase: http://lifehacker.com/5687850/speed-up-firefox-by-moving-your-cache-to-ram-no-ram-disk-required

I didn't know it was possible from within Firefox, but at least now I know I'm not imagining my cache speed increase. I still keep the RAMdisk though, I like to use it for fast file handling.

#14 Posted by FelipeInside (25678 posts) -

To all of you who doubt my speed increase: http://lifehacker.com/5687850/speed-up-firefox-by-moving-your-cache-to-ram-no-ram-disk-required

I didn't know it was possible from within Firefox, but at least now I know I'm not imagining my cache speed increase. I still keep the RAMdisk though, I like to use it for fast file handling.

geitenvla
No one doubted you, we just said it's not worth it. The speed increase is more of an illusion really (although technically it RAM is faster than HDD). It can also cause problems though. If it was really useful then everyone would use it. Read the comments on that link I posted and you re-posted here.
#15 Posted by hamelkarl (207 posts) -

This could probably help if you visit a few number of webpages and don't restart your browser often (closing the browser might also be slower if it needs to move the stuffs back to the hdd too). For webpage that you never visited before, I'm almost sure it will be actually slower. You shouldn't have that much improvment either, probably something around 0.25 secs faster for the pages you visit the most...