E4300 Allendale or E6420???

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#1 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -

Which is a better buy??? i plan on OCing the CPU for a new gaming rig and even though the E4300 has a lower FSB and 9x multiplier,it needs to be OCed very high to surpass the X6800,while the E6420 doesn't need to be OCed as high to surpass the X6800.

E4300:2MB L2 cache,800 FSB,1.8GHz,9x multiplier.

E6420:4MB L2 cache,1066FSB,2.13GHz,8x multiplier.

#2 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
Lower multipliers give the advantage of being able to get a higher FSB and lower temps, but at the same time, higher multiplier makes higher OC's easier while having higher temps.
#3 Posted by Taijiquan (7431 posts) -

Which is a better buy??? i plan on OCing the CPU for a new gaming rig and even though the E4300 has a lower FSB and 9x multiplier,it needs to be OCed very high to surpass the X6800,while the E6420 doesn't need to be OCed as high to surpass the X6800.

E4300:2MB L2 cache,800 FSB,1.8GHz,9x multiplier.

E6420:4MB L2 cache,1066FSB,2.13GHz,8x multiplier.

AARONRULZ1

April is a long way off.

#4 Posted by frost_mourne13 (1615 posts) -
Indeed. I wonder when Quad-Core's will become mainstream...
#5 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
Indeed. I wonder when Quad-Core's will become mainstream...frost_mourne13
2008.
April is a long way off.Taijiquan
Thats when the E6420 comes out??? well i'll be building the new rig in april-may so thats not a factor.
#6 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
Anyone???
#7 Posted by BLKR4330 (1698 posts) -
I voted e6420. Mostly because it's a better cpu and I'm not a big overclocker. If you are, the E4300 will be a more rewarding purchase..
#8 Posted by DirkVDV01 (20155 posts) -
I voted e6420. Mostly because it's a better cpu and I'm not a big overclocker. If you are, the E4300 will be a more rewarding purchase..
BLKR4330
So did I, I voted E6420 as well, the higher and better tech you get now, the better and higher OC'ing you will be able to do. It doesn't count all the time, but of the time, this works fine.
#9 Posted by Deamon321 (1568 posts) -

Which is a better buy??? i plan on OCing the CPU for a new gaming rig and even though the E4300 has a lower FSB and 9x multiplier,it needs to be OCed very high to surpass the X6800,while the E6420 doesn't need to be OCed as high to surpass the X6800.

E4300:2MB L2 cache,800 FSB,1.8GHz,9x multiplier.

E6420:4MB L2 cache,1066FSB,2.13GHz,8x multiplier.

AARONRULZ1
just a quik question... are these quad core CPU s ?
#10 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much
#11 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]

Which is a better buy??? i plan on OCing the CPU for a new gaming rig and even though the E4300 has a lower FSB and 9x multiplier,it needs to be OCed very high to surpass the X6800,while the E6420 doesn't need to be OCed as high to surpass the X6800.

E4300:2MB L2 cache,800 FSB,1.8GHz,9x multiplier.

E6420:4MB L2 cache,1066FSB,2.13GHz,8x multiplier.

Deamon321
just a quik question... are these quad core CPU s ?

No,they're dual-core.
its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much macpop
I'm actually 15 now and i want to do hardcore OCing.
#12 Posted by pokefant (137 posts) -
its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much macpop

Way to stereotype.
#13 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
:lol: im 16
#14 Posted by pokefant (137 posts) -
:lol: im 16 macpop

Yes, and I'm 22. Would you like an award?
#15 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
[QUOTE="macpop"]:lol: im 16 pokefant

Yes, and I'm 22. Would you like an award?

Can we get back to topic now???
#16 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
[QUOTE="macpop"]:lol: im 16 pokefant

Yes, and I'm 22. Would you like an award?

haha tryin to flame arent u? lol i know the moment u loosse ur cool mods wont even hesitate to ban u :lol: but yea aaron both are good the cache wont provide more than a 1-8% performance diff, and it doesnt matter when ur gonna oc, but i still say e6420
#17 Posted by Nonam3gamer (880 posts) -
Well, they both overclock about the same (the E6420 might get like 100-200 mhz higher under the same cooling conditions) but as the E6420 has a lower multiplyer, it would perform better even if they were the same clock speed because the higher FSB.
 
#18 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
well we know the e6420 is the better choice, but aaron y dont u go 3600x2 for now and just upgrade to barcelona? amd said its 40% faster than clovertown and even intel sayd it, and clovertown is the server version of kentsfield so going c2d now is a dead wish knowing barcelona will work with am2 and a 3600x2 since u said u want to oc can oc on a dime to 2.6-3.5ghz from the people over @ hardforums got em to
#19 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
but yea aaron both are good the cache wont provide more than a 1-8% performance diff, and it doesnt matter when ur gonna oc, but i still say e6420macpop
The extra cache will surely help future games so i'll go with the E6420.
#20 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
well we know the e6420 is the better choice, but aaron y dont u go 3600x2 for now and just upgrade to barcelona? amd said its 40% faster than clovertown and even intel sayd it, and clovertown is the server version of kentsfield so going c2d now is a dead wish knowing barcelona will work with am2 and a 3600x2 since u said u want to oc can oc on a dime to 2.6-3.5ghz from the people over @ hardforums got em to macpop
Do you have any links to X2 OC's and intel saying barcelona outperforming clovertown??? Btw,how much of a performance increase do you get with that X2 3800 OCed to 3.2GHz???
#21 Posted by pokefant (137 posts) -
[QUOTE="pokefant"][QUOTE="macpop"]:lol: im 16 macpop

Yes, and I'm 22. Would you like an award?

haha tryin to flame arent u? lol i know the moment u loosse ur cool mods wont even hesitate to ban u :lol: but yea aaron both are good the cache wont provide more than a 1-8% performance diff, and it doesnt matter when ur gonna oc, but i still say e6420


Alrighty then. Have fun with that.

Anyway, to get on topic (whoops), I'd go with the E6420. The cache is larger, and you can probably overclock it slightly more than the e4300. Both are good choices, though.
#22 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
[QUOTE="macpop"]well we know the e6420 is the better choice, but aaron y dont u go 3600x2 for now and just upgrade to barcelona? amd said its 40% faster than clovertown and even intel sayd it, and clovertown is the server version of kentsfield so going c2d now is a dead wish knowing barcelona will work with am2 and a 3600x2 since u said u want to oc can oc on a dime to 2.6-3.5ghz from the people over @ hardforums got em to AARONRULZ1
Do you have any links to X2 OC's and intel saying barcelona outperforming clovertown??? Btw,how much of a performance increase do you get with that X2 3800 OCed to 3.2GHz???

yea, i was stable @ 2.8ghz @ 1.55V. and i just messed around and went to 3.4ghz @ 1.75V and it was stable for 10 hours and i went to 3.2ghz @ 1.65V and its stable for 21:12 hours, to me thats stable and i went from scoreing around 2123 @ 2.8ghz to 2342 @ 3.2ghz. so yea this is my temp rig til i upgrade to barcelona x2
#23 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"][QUOTE="macpop"]well we know the e6420 is the better choice, but aaron y dont u go 3600x2 for now and just upgrade to barcelona? amd said its 40% faster than clovertown and even intel sayd it, and clovertown is the server version of kentsfield so going c2d now is a dead wish knowing barcelona will work with am2 and a 3600x2 since u said u want to oc can oc on a dime to 2.6-3.5ghz from the people over @ hardforums got em to macpop
Do you have any links to X2 OC's and intel saying barcelona outperforming clovertown??? Btw,how much of a performance increase do you get with that X2 3800 OCed to 3.2GHz???

yea, i was stable @ 2.8ghz @ 1.55V. and i just messed around and went to 3.4ghz @ 1.75V and it was stable for 10 hours and i went to 3.2ghz @ 1.65V and its stable for 21:12 hours, to me thats stable and i went from scoreing around 2123 @ 2.8ghz to 2342 @ 3.2ghz. so yea this is my temp rig til i upgrade to barcelona x2

keep in mind my 3800x2 is the best stepping u can get for a 3800x2 and does 3.9ghz @ 1.8V with a vapochill :(, but yea i doubt many x2's or c2d can do +.7ghz without any V changes :)
#24 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
Ok,IF what you say is true,mac,how far can i push a X2 3600 with a tuniq tower 120 and a decent OCing AM2 mobo???
#25 Posted by LordEC911 (9972 posts) -
whoops nm, I find the info on the e6420...
#26 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
Ok,IF what you say is true,mac,how far can i push a X2 3600 with a tuniq tower 120 and a decent OCing AM2 mobo???AARONRULZ1
well many from other ocing forums, have gotten it to 2.4-3.0ghz, and u need more than a decent am2 mobo to oc anything being from intel or amd
#27 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
Is the e6420 not 1333fsb?LordEC911
I think it is,don't know for sure. Btw how does a higher FSB make OCing worse???
#28 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
[QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]Ok,IF what you say is true,mac,how far can i push a X2 3600 with a tuniq tower 120 and a decent OCing AM2 mobo???macpop
well many from other ocing forums, have gotten it to 2.4-3.0ghz, and u need more than a decent am2 mobo to oc anything being from intel or amd

Ok then,what else do i need???
#29 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
[QUOTE="macpop"][QUOTE="AARONRULZ1"]Ok,IF what you say is true,mac,how far can i push a X2 3600 with a tuniq tower 120 and a decent OCing AM2 mobo???AARONRULZ1
well many from other ocing forums, have gotten it to 2.4-3.0ghz, and u need more than a decent am2 mobo to oc anything being from intel or amd

Ok then,what else do i need???

good psu good mobo good ram good cooling and most of all the knowledge and patience that ocing requires
#30 Posted by LordEC911 (9972 posts) -
[QUOTE="LordEC911"]Is the e6420 not 1333fsb?AARONRULZ1
I think it is,don't know for sure. Btw how does a higher FSB make OCing worse???



Usually means a lower multiplier...
1333fsb /4 = 333.25mhz
2000/333.25 = 6

But don't worry the E6420 and E6320 are the same as their Conroe counterparts but with 4mb of L2.
#31 Posted by Generalkill8888 (5305 posts) -

Which is a better buy??? i plan on OCing the CPU for a new gaming rig and even though the E4300 has a lower FSB and 9x multiplier,it needs to be OCed very high to surpass the X6800,while the E6420 doesn't need to be OCed as high to surpass the X6800.

E4300:2MB L2 cache,800 FSB,1.8GHz,9x multiplier.

E6420:4MB L2 cache,1066FSB,2.13GHz,8x multiplier.

AARONRULZ1
Looks like the E6420 is winning. I wonder why..
#32 Posted by SoberWarock (3086 posts) -
its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much macpop
hes 14?
#33 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -
[QUOTE="macpop"]its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much SoberWarock
hes 14?

I'm 15 now.
#34 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -
[QUOTE="SoberWarock"][QUOTE="macpop"]its clear the e6420 is best since i know a 14 year old wont oc that much AARONRULZ1
hes 14?

I'm 15 now.

:lol: TEENAGERS RULE!! lol yea man, i posted my oc results and everyone @ xtremesystems cant believe i know how to oc @ my age XD
#35 Posted by AARONRULZ1 (6273 posts) -

good psu

good mobo

good ram

good cooling

and most of all the knowledge and patience that ocing requires macpop

Good PSU???

Have any links to good OCing mobos???

Good RAM???

Is a tuniq tower 120 good enough cooling???

I'm a n00b when it comes to OCing,so when i go to OC,i'll ask a OCing wizard lol.

#36 Posted by harooon (225 posts) -
what about the E4400. i heard its gonna have a 10x multiplier. that will be very much for ocing.
#37 Posted by macpop (3991 posts) -

[QUOTE="macpop"]good psu

good mobo

good ram

good cooling

and most of all the knowledge and patience that ocing requires AARONRULZ1

Good PSU???

Have any links to good OCing mobos???

Good RAM???

Is a tuniq tower 120 good enough cooling???

I'm a n00b when it comes to OCing,so when i go to OC,i'll ask a OCing wizard lol.



PSU
Mobo
Ram
Cooler
#38 Posted by noIinteam (1644 posts) -
http://www.overclockers.com/tips01099/
#39 Posted by X360PS3AMD05 (36298 posts) -
E4300