Do I need a better power supply?

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#1  Edited By MajorPain10
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I've had my PC for nearly two years now and considering upgrading my GPU. I purchased a Dell XPS 8500. So far it's been pretty hard to identify exactly what components I do have (brand, model, etc.). Just need some further input on what I should consider.

Here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 3770

AMD Radeon HD 7870

16 GB DDR3 RAM

2TB Hardisk, 32 GB SSD for OS

460W Power Supply

Can't identify my motherboard =/

I'm heavily considering the MSI GTX 970. From what I could find, it seems to pull less power than my 7870 (OEM card I believe). So far I haven't had any issues with my card and power supply, but from a safety standpoint should I reconsider?

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What is the brand? and what are the 12v specs how many A does it do per 12v rail? While yes the GTX 970 uses less power then a 7870, I wouldn't want to keep on using a no name psu.

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as 04d said its not a good idea to keep using a no name psu.

I'm surprised its not blown out running that i7 and 7870 my no name 500w psu have out on my 8350 7850 combo.

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#4  Edited By Coseniath
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Also MSI GTX970 requires a 6pin and an 8pin PCIE. Does your PSU have 1 6pin and 1 8pin?

Also as @04dcarraher said, brand name will help too.

Your 7870 consumes 40 less watt. But this shouldn't be a problem...

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@thehig1 said:

as 04d said its not a good idea to keep using a no name psu.

I'm surprised its not blown out running that i7 and 7870 my no name 500w psu have out on my 8350 7850 combo.

He's fine, only using about max 300w under load.. The no name PSU is Dell's line of PSU, they aren't bad and he has nothing to worry about.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

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@MajorPain10 said:

I've had my PC for nearly two years now and considering upgrading my GPU. I purchased a Dell XPS 8500. So far it's been pretty hard to identify exactly what components I do have (brand, model, etc.). Just need some further input on what I should consider.

Here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 3770

AMD Radeon HD 7870

16 GB DDR3 RAM

2TB Hardisk, 32 GB SSD for OS

460W Power Supply

Can't identify my motherboard =/

I'm heavily considering the MSI GTX 970. From what I could find, it seems to pull less power than my 7870 (OEM card I believe). So far I haven't had any issues with my card and power supply, but from a safety standpoint should I reconsider?

Check what PCIe connections you've got with that PSU and the GPU you intend to buy, 970 by Asus uses only 1x 8 pin connector while others uses 2x6 pin.

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#7  Edited By thehig1
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@zaku101 said:

@thehig1 said:

as 04d said its not a good idea to keep using a no name psu.

I'm surprised its not blown out running that i7 and 7870 my no name 500w psu have out on my 8350 7850 combo.

He's fine, only using about max 300w under load.. The no name PSU is Dells line of PSU.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

I'm paranoid with PSU and often go overkill, I have a 750W XFX PSU now to power my 8350/7850 thats probably overkill.

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@thehig1 said:

@zaku101 said:

@thehig1 said:

as 04d said its not a good idea to keep using a no name psu.

I'm surprised its not blown out running that i7 and 7870 my no name 500w psu have out on my 8350 7850 combo.

He's fine, only using about max 300w under load.. The no name PSU is Dells line of PSU.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

I'm paranoid with PSU and often go overkill, I have a 750W XFX PSU now to power my 8350/7850 thats probably overkill.

That's totally normal, the GPU manufacturers make people think this way for legal reasons..

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@zaku101 said:

@thehig1 said:

@zaku101 said:

@thehig1 said:

as 04d said its not a good idea to keep using a no name psu.

I'm surprised its not blown out running that i7 and 7870 my no name 500w psu have out on my 8350 7850 combo.

He's fine, only using about max 300w under load.. The no name PSU is Dells line of PSU.

http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

I'm paranoid with PSU and often go overkill, I have a 750W XFX PSU now to power my 8350/7850 thats probably overkill.

That's totally normal, the GPU manufacturers make people think this way for legal reasons..

With me it was one bad experience with a dodgy PSU I had, the thing blew up and set a fire inside my PC, you can imagine the sheer panic and terror if you see flames inside your PC.

I put the flames out fast lucky enough only the PSU was broken, and some case fans and the CPU fans had some burn marks on, other that it was a lucky escape.

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@MajorPain10 said:

I've had my PC for nearly two years now and considering upgrading my GPU. I purchased a Dell XPS 8500. So far it's been pretty hard to identify exactly what components I do have (brand, model, etc.). Just need some further input on what I should consider.

Here are my specs:

Intel Core i7 3770

AMD Radeon HD 7870

16 GB DDR3 RAM

2TB Hardisk, 32 GB SSD for OS

460W Power Supply

Can't identify my motherboard =/

I'm heavily considering the MSI GTX 970. From what I could find, it seems to pull less power than my 7870 (OEM card I believe). So far I haven't had any issues with my card and power supply, but from a safety standpoint should I reconsider?

wowa im running a ocz 600 watt psu on a phenom 2 rig.

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#11  Edited By MajorPain10
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@PredatorRules: Checking on that now. Good point to bring up.

EDIT: Looks like I will be taking a look tomorrow. My case has a casing for the power supply, so I can't tell what PCIE connections it has without opening everything up (the wires feed through a small opening). Don't have time tonight so I will take a look tomorrow.

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#12 MajorPain10
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@Coseniath:

Would it be safe to assume from my current GPU whether or not I have 1 8 pin and 1 6 pin? The 7870 looks to be using two 6 pin connections for the power supply.

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#13  Edited By Coseniath
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@MajorPain10 said:

@Coseniath:

Would it be safe to assume from my current GPU whether or not I have 1 8 pin and 1 6 pin? The 7870 looks to be using two 6 pin connections for the power supply.

7870 needs 2 x 6pins. So we can assume that your PSU has 2x6pins. The reference GTX970 uses 2x6pin too. Some non-reference models too.

But The MSI GTX970 uses 1x8pin and 1x6pin.

A good non-reference GTX970 is the EVGA ACX2.0.

It needs only 2x6pins.

You can check other non-reference GPUs but from the reviews I know that Asus Strix has 1x8pin, Gigabyte and MSI need 1x8pin and 1x6pin.

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@Coseniath:

A better non-reference is the Zotac 970, I had the evga for 4 days and it died, so I'm getting a strix. Also IMO, the Zotac 970's look the best.

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@GTR12 said:

@Coseniath:

A better non-reference is the Zotac 970, I had the evga for 4 days and it died, so I'm getting a strix. Also IMO, the Zotac 970's look the best.

Well Zotac doesn't have EVGA's warranty but, I agree its a nice card and its advantage against all other cards is that its smaller and it should be fit to more cases...

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@Coseniath said:
@GTR12 said:

@Coseniath:

A better non-reference is the Zotac 970, I had the evga for 4 days and it died, so I'm getting a strix. Also IMO, the Zotac 970's look the best.

Well Zotac doesn't have EVGA's warranty but, I agree its a nice card and its advantage against all other cards is that its smaller and it should be fit to more cases...

Well TC has a XPS, and the last I remember seeing one, they are cramped and tiny inside.

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#17  Edited By MajorPain10
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@GTR12 said:

@Coseniath said:
@GTR12 said:

@Coseniath:

A better non-reference is the Zotac 970, I had the evga for 4 days and it died, so I'm getting a strix. Also IMO, the Zotac 970's look the best.

Well Zotac doesn't have EVGA's warranty but, I agree its a nice card and its advantage against all other cards is that its smaller and it should be fit to more cases...

Well TC has a XPS, and the last I remember seeing one, they are cramped and tiny inside.

That is very true. It's a midtower case and is VERY cramped inside. I shouldn't have too many issues since the 7870 fits in there nice and snug.