Building a PC, need feedback

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#1 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Yo.

Thanks to Sony/MS sitting on waiting for the next gen a little bit longer (plus not really up for the Wii-U at launch, I'm willing to wait), I have enough funds to seriously invest into building myself a rig. Problem is, I'm a total newb at this, so feel free to mock me if I say anything completely ludicrous. I'd prefer to build my own since it's cheaper and it'd be a good learning experience. My goal is to make the thing last at least 6-7 years with upgrades towards the end of that timeline. I have $1500 I'm willing to commit. So, obviously I'll need the following and I haven't added up the costs yet but these are what I'm considering:

  • CPU - AMD Bulldozer FX 8150, $299 with liquid cooling on Amazon, suggestions to keep it cost effective while providing the highest performance possible?
  • GPU - Radeon 7970, (willing to rethink this as I might prefer buying two and linking them if it's better for performance)
  • PSU - Whatever works best for the lowest price
  • Motherboard - Haven't looked into this yet, thought I'd pick my processor first
  • RAM - Minimum 8GB, ideally 16GB-32GB (all depends on brand and what the cost is. I can wait to upgrade to a higher amount, but 8GB to start minimum)
  • Disc Drive (I'm more keen on biting the bullet and getting a Blu-ray/DVD RW combo, would love to use this rig as a media center and have the option for Blu-ray)
  • HDD (SSD option if my budget allows for it, doesn't need to be huge though, I already own a 1TB external drive I'd use in addition)
  • Monitors (going the dual route, need some suggestions here. Only one need be high-level, the other I'm going to have around for work to simply make life more awesome)
  • K+M (suggestions?)
  • OS (Windows 7 64-bit)
  • Fans+Cooling (no idea where to start with this one)
  • Case (no idea here either)

Now, I'm looking more toward performance but don't want to sacrifice features, so any pointers on exactly where I'm going to have to straddle the line? BTW, definitely looking for 1080p SLI settings. And what kind of sound card will I need if I've got headphones? One last thing: any issues arise if I want to use an HDTV with this rig?

Again, I still have no idea how to put it together and am dumb as can be on how these parts will work together. If you were in my shoes (those with way more experience at this), what kind of rig would you build?

Cheers.

#2 Posted by 04dcarraher (19589 posts) -

Here you go.. here is a start for you

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2311915&CatId=31

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2580889

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5213932

#3 Posted by NVIDIATI (7689 posts) -

And what kind of sound card will I need if I've got headphones?

Basinboy

What headphones do you have?

#4 Posted by GTR12 (9549 posts) -

Here you go.. here is a start for you

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2311915&CatId=31

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2580889

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5213932

04dcarraher

Basically that rig, except CPU and mobo, get a z77 and a 3770k for that price.

#5 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

And what kind of sound card will I need if I've got headphones?

NVIDIATI

What headphones do you have?

Tritton Pros, I may upgrade at some later point but they fit the bill for most of my gametime for now.

#6 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Here you go.. here is a start for you

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2311915&CatId=31

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2580889

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5213932

GTR12

Basically that rig, except CPU and mobo, get a z77 and a 3770k for that price.

Excuse my newbness, mobo (motherboard? I'm not at all up to speed on PC lingo)?

And I've researched the ongoing arguments between Intel and AMD on why you should choose each respective chipset, what are your reasons for your preference?

Last question, regarding the GPU: in your opinion, is it better to have two GPUs to share the workload or is the performance increase marginal and not worth the monetary cost?

#7 Posted by NVIDIATI (7689 posts) -

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

And what kind of sound card will I need if I've got headphones?

Basinboy

What headphones do you have?

Tritton Pros, I may upgrade at some later point but they fit the bill for most of my gametime for now.

Those headphones don't need a soundcard as they use an external device. If in the future you plan to upgrade to a pair of quality stereo headphones, then a soundcard would benefit you.

#8 Posted by 04dcarraher (19589 posts) -

[QUOTE="GTR12"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Here you go.. here is a start for you

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2311915&CatId=31

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2580889

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5213932

Basinboy

Basically that rig, except CPU and mobo, get a z77 and a 3770k for that price.

Excuse my newbness, mobo (motherboard? I'm not at all up to speed on PC lingo)?

And I've researched the ongoing arguments between Intel and AMD on why you should choose each respective chipset, what are your reasons for your preference?

Last question, regarding the GPU: in your opinion, is it better to have two GPUs to share the workload or is the performance increase marginal and not worth the monetary cost?

Yes mobo = motherboard AMD tends to be great for budget builds while Intel is for people that have the money to get something that's better. The only reason to buy a 8 core AMD cpu is if you do alot of multitasking, but if you just want to game and other odds and ends Intel is the better option if you have the money. My preference depends on what I need and have the money for, what gives me the best bang for your buck... Now as using two gpu's never plan on building a Pc starting out with multiple gpu's, your better off getting one more powerful card first then deciding if you want/need another one later on. Also with SLI'ing and Crossfire requires more psu power so you have to make sure your psu can handle the load of multiple gpu's.
#9 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Yes mobo = motherboard AMD tends to be great for budget builds while Intel is for people that have the money to get something that's better. The only reason to buy a 8 core AMD cpu is if you do alot of multitasking, but if you just want to game and other odds and ends Intel is the better option if you have the money. My preference depends on what I need and have the money for, what gives me the best bang for your buck... Now as using two gpu's never plan on building a Pc starting out with multiple gpu's, your better off getting one more powerful card first then deciding if you want/need another one later on. Also with SLI'ing and Crossfire requires more psu power so you have to make sure your psu can handle the load of multiple gpu's. 04dcarraher

To what extent regarding multi-tasking? As in, I don't intend to do a whole lot of multi-tasking while in-game, in all honesty, but when I have class assignments or work to perform I'd definitely have somewhere between 4-10 programs running at the same time. Most of those programs aren't RAM intensive and would doubt that they'd be a burden on the CPU. But is it better to invest in the Bulldozer CPU just for the sake of it or would I get around fine with the Intel recommendations made above?

#10 Posted by stevencompton (1461 posts) -
AMD's update to the Bulldozer architecture ('Piledriver') seen in the mobile A10-4600M CPU should be out in desktop CPUs soon-ish. If you want to stick with AMD I would wait, though I'm not sure exactly when they're due (but definitely within the year). http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hope
#11 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

AMD's update to the Bulldozer architecture ('Piledriver') seen in the mobile A10-4600M CPU should be out in desktop CPUs soon-ish. If you want to stick with AMD I would wait, though I'm not sure exactly when they're due (but definitely within the year). http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hopestevencompton

I'm still a few weeks away from taking the plunge but I'm gearing up for it. As well, I figured it'd be a good idea to wait til post E3 in case any new announcements affect my decision making (doubt it though).

One other question: what sort of things do I need to know concerning RAM and cooling units?

#12 Posted by GTR12 (9549 posts) -

[QUOTE="stevencompton"]AMD's update to the Bulldozer architecture ('Piledriver') seen in the mobile A10-4600M CPU should be out in desktop CPUs soon-ish. If you want to stick with AMD I would wait, though I'm not sure exactly when they're due (but definitely within the year). http://www.anandtech.com/show/5831/amd-trinity-review-a10-4600m-a-new-hopeBasinboy

I'm still a few weeks away from taking the plunge but I'm gearing up for it. As well, I figured it'd be a good idea to wait til post E3 in case any new announcements affect my decision making (doubt it though).

One other question: what sort of things do I need to know concerning RAM and cooling units?

Just get an Intel build for your price range.

Not really need to know much about RAM, look at the motherboard's manufacturer website, look at the correct model, look at a thing called QVL (Qualified Vendor List), and it lists the RAM which are known to work and have been tested by them. Just buy the same one for compatibility.

As for cooling, just mainly CPU cooling if your looking at overclocking (just google that term), but these are relatively cheap and much better than the stock cooling anyway.

#13 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Another quick newb question:

When shopping for a disc drive, I've come around to the idea about getting a BD-RW/DVD-RW combo but wanted to know if it's better to buy an internal drive or an external and if it's better to buy with software or without (why would I need software, as well?). Thanks guys.

#14 Posted by MW2ismygame (2183 posts) -

Another quick newb question:

When shopping for a disc drive, I've come around to the idea about getting a BD-RW/DVD-RW combo but wanted to know if it's better to buy an internal drive or an external and if it's better to buy with software or without (why would I need software, as well?). Thanks guys.

Basinboy
get a single cd/dvd drive, they are $17-$20 almost everywhere, no you dont need software, you just connect the sata cables to the motherboard and done
#15 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6046 posts) -

for cpu get the core i5 3770k or whatever its called now. Don't go anywhere near AMD cpu's. On the other hand the radeon 7970 is a really decent gpu, its pretty much the same as the geforce 670 gtx, but I think the 7970 is a better deal since you have more vram and also a promotion of 3 free games right now.

#16 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Question:

Regarding the PSU, if I plan on only buying one card (either the Radeon 7970 or GTX 670, willing to dish out $400) w/16 GB Ram and your other basic PC parts (BD/DVDRW drive, i7 intel CPU) but with the intention of possibly buying a second GPU down the line (as well as a sound card), what watt support should I be looking at? I think initially I'm going to get a 650w, unless I need to have a higher watt count to support two GPUs and it doesn't inflate the cost too much. Thoughts?

EDIT:

One other question: regarding cases, any suggestions? I like cleaner, more simple designs (Corsair 600T, for example and I would get it if only it were less than $75) and I'm busy sifting through the web trying to find others I like, just wondering if you guys might have any suggestions (willing to sacrifice form for function, meaning if it has more ports of any kind, I'd be willing to look past its looks).

#17 Posted by WiiRocks66 (3488 posts) -

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15299974

#18 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15299974

WiiRocks66

I'd probably drop the SSD from that list because, in all honesty, it's a lot of money to commit when I have a 1TB hard drive internal and another 1TB external drive. I'm assuming the data transfer is faster since there's no moving parts, so loading for games and programs is improved when they're located on the SSD, amirite?

GPU is spot on (question: why pick the GTX 670 over the Radeon 7970, overlooking whatever cost difference exists) along with all the other components save for CPU. Again, I'm a newb with these things, but is it better to spend that little extra on the CPU and get myself a 3770 or 3820 (stock performance at 3.4 and 3.6, overclocking at 3.9 ghz) or is the performance bump fairly marginal and am better off saving my dough? I tend to lean toward taking the bullet and getting as good a CPU as I can.

As well, found another case I really like (teh black and green is teh sexiness, also dig the white+red and black+blue). Thoughts?

http://www.amazon.com/Crafted-Series-Tower-Steel-Chassis/dp/B003WE9WQO/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1338002056&sr=1-4

#19 Posted by 04dcarraher (19589 posts) -
The GTX 670 is as fast or faster then a 7970 and is cheaper. Also the ivy bridge is a waste over the Sandy Bridge , Intel went cheap on the heat spreader on the Ivy's which means that your temps will not be as good as they would be over a Sandy bridge based CPU. also the performance between ivy vs sandy is so small you will never be able to tell.
#20 Posted by ronvalencia (15112 posts) -

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15299974

WiiRocks66

link

Red = AMD (HD 7970) leads

Green = NVIDIA (GTX 680) leads

TF7CW.jpg

#21 Posted by WiiRocks66 (3488 posts) -

[QUOTE="WiiRocks66"]

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15299974

Basinboy

I'd probably drop the SSD from that list because, in all honesty, it's a lot of money to commit when I have a 1TB hard drive internal and another 1TB external drive. I'm assuming the data transfer is faster since there's no moving parts, so loading for games and programs is improved when they're located on the SSD, amirite?

GPU is spot on (question: why pick the GTX 670 over the Radeon 7970, overlooking whatever cost difference exists) along with all the other components save for CPU. Again, I'm a newb with these things, but is it better to spend that little extra on the CPU and get myself a 3770 or 3820 (stock performance at 3.4 and 3.6, overclocking at 3.9 ghz) or is the performance bump fairly marginal and am better off saving my dough? I tend to lean toward taking the bullet and getting as good a CPU as I can.

As well, found another case I really like (teh black and green is teh sexiness, also dig the white+red and black+blue). Thoughts?

http://www.amazon.com/Crafted-Series-Tower-Steel-Chassis/dp/B003WE9WQO/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1338002056&sr=1-4

The case you choose is more personal preference and it's really up to you, as long as it has good cooling. The one you chose does and is a good case. I wouldn't drop the SSD completely. I would get a small(like 20-30 gig) one and use it as a boot drive, as they are much faster than HDDs. The 670 outperforms the 7970 in most scenarios, although they are both great cards and you really can't go wrong with either one. And I originally had a 3820 and LGA2011 mobo in the build, but it was expensive. If you can increase your budget, the performance difference would be noticeable.

#22 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

[QUOTE="WiiRocks66"]

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=15299974

WiiRocks66

I'd probably drop the SSD from that list because, in all honesty, it's a lot of money to commit when I have a 1TB hard drive internal and another 1TB external drive. I'm assuming the data transfer is faster since there's no moving parts, so loading for games and programs is improved when they're located on the SSD, amirite?

GPU is spot on (question: why pick the GTX 670 over the Radeon 7970, overlooking whatever cost difference exists) along with all the other components save for CPU. Again, I'm a newb with these things, but is it better to spend that little extra on the CPU and get myself a 3770 or 3820 (stock performance at 3.4 and 3.6, overclocking at 3.9 ghz) or is the performance bump fairly marginal and am better off saving my dough? I tend to lean toward taking the bullet and getting as good a CPU as I can.

As well, found another case I really like (teh black and green is teh sexiness, also dig the white+red and black+blue). Thoughts?

http://www.amazon.com/Crafted-Series-Tower-Steel-Chassis/dp/B003WE9WQO/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1338002056&sr=1-4

The case you choose is more personal preference and it's really up to you, as long as it has good cooling. The one you chose does and is a good case. I wouldn't drop the SSD completely. I would get a small(like 20-30 gig) one and use it as a boot drive, as they are much faster than HDDs. The 670 outperforms the 7970 in most scenarios, although they are both great cards and you really can't go wrong with either one. And I originally had a 3820 and LGA2011 mobo in the build, but it was expensive. If you can increase your budget, the performance difference would be noticeable.

Good to hear about the case, although the one I picked up inflates my costs just over my budget ($1550) but I think I might come around on biting the bullet on that one because I would prefer it to be socially presentable (some towers, IMHO, are just gross looking). The other I was eyeing was the Corsair 600T, but it's Amazon listing is at $160 and I'm hoping to be somewhere in the $50-$80, if it can be helped.

All I'm saying about SSDs at the moment is I can't afford to incorporate them into my budget quite yet. I would prefer a larger SSD, of course, but I may bide my time until my funds replenish enough to afford a sizable one. Is that a feasible sacrifice or am going to be compromising my system by incorporating it later on?

The more I look at the 7970 the more I tend to come back to the 670 because 1) it performs better in most cases and 2) it's cheaper. Hard to argue against that (I guess it doesn't have quite the cosmetic appeal but it's gonna be in a box for it's whole life, screw it).

Where I'm the most uncertain is the CPU/Mobo combination. The i5 2500-2700 series appeal to me a lot since they cut a good amount out of the cost and the performance (while less) is still comparable. My concern though is I want to try and ride out my CPU for gaming purposes for 5+ years and I worry that 5 years from now I'll have to look at updating my CPU and possibly my Mobo if things develop as quickly as they tend to. Unfortunately I can't bump the budget yet, I'll have to wait and see how things play out with work and how long I decide to wait on purchasing everything before I can raise my spending cap.

In regard to my CPU dilemma, what do you think? Better to invest in a all-new Ivy Bridge i7 or am I as well off stepping it back a notch somewhere near an i5 2500?

#23 Posted by GTR12 (9549 posts) -

Look at the Corsair Carbide 400R as another case, its the successor to the 600T

#24 Posted by ronvalencia (15112 posts) -

The GTX 670 is as fast or faster then a 7970 and is cheaper. Also the ivy bridge is a waste over the Sandy Bridge , Intel went cheap on the heat spreader on the Ivy's which means that your temps will not be as good as they would be over a Sandy bridge based CPU. also the performance between ivy vs sandy is so small you will never be able to tell.

04dcarraher

Depends on benchmark mix and the final AIB config e.g. MSI R7970 Lightning (factory 1070 Mhz) or Sapphire HD7950 OC 950 (factory 950 Mhz).

link

Red = AMD (HD 7970) leads

Green = NVIDIA (GTX 680) leads

TF7CW.jpg

#25 Posted by 04dcarraher (19589 posts) -

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]The GTX 670 is as fast or faster then a 7970 and is cheaper. Also the ivy bridge is a waste over the Sandy Bridge , Intel went cheap on the heat spreader on the Ivy's which means that your temps will not be as good as they would be over a Sandy bridge based CPU. also the performance between ivy vs sandy is so small you will never be able to tell.

ronvalencia

Depends on benchmark mix and the final AIB config e.g. MSI R7970 Lightning (factory 1070 Mhz) or Sapphire HD7950 OC 950 (factory 950 Mhz).

link

Red = AMD (HD 7970) leads

Green = NVIDIA (GTX 680) leads

Just overclock or get a factory overclocked GTX 670 and again out do a 7970 let alone a overclocked 7950, which is still a better value for a gaming gpu.

#26 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking I'll put together. The links provided would be the literal product I buy, everything seem like it'll come together properly?

  • Case:NZXT Phantom 410 (Black w/ White trim)$84.99
  • PSU:Corsair 600CX (600w)$62.24
  • MOBO:ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro$159.98
  • CPU:Intel i7 3770, Quad core @ 3.4-3.9ghz$319.99
  • RAM:8GB DDR3 RAM$53.99
  • GPU:EVGA GTX 670$399.99
  • HDD:2TB Internal Drive$109.99
  • Disc D.:Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer$64.99
  • SSD:Samsung 64GB SSD$89.99
  • OS:Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium$99.99
  • TOTAL = $1,589.14 w/tax

With tax I'm a bit over my budget but it won't apply to many of the purchases so I'm pretty close to where I wanted to be. Down the road I'll add a card reader, upgrade the RAM to 16GB, add a sound card and maybe a TV tuner or Wi-fi card (doubt I'll need it, why would I need the mobility anyway?). Thoughts?

#27 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6046 posts) -

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking I'll put together. The links provided would be the literal product I buy, everything seem like it'll come together properly?

  • Case:NZXT Phantom 410 (Black w/ White trim)$84.99
  • PSU:Corsair 600CX (600w)$62.24
  • MOBO:ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro$159.98
  • CPU:Intel i7 3770, Quad core @ 3.4-3.9ghz$319.99
  • RAM:8GB DDR3 RAM$53.99
  • GPU:EVGA GTX 670$399.99
  • HDD:2TB Internal Drive$109.99
  • Disc D.:Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer$64.99
  • SSD:Samsung 64GB SSD$89.99
  • OS:Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium$99.99
  • TOTAL = $1,589.14 w/tax

With tax I'm a bit over my budget but it won't apply to many of the purchases so I'm pretty close to where I wanted to be. Down the road I'll add a card reader, upgrade the RAM to 16GB, add a sound card and maybe a TV tuner or Wi-fi card (doubt I'll need it, why would I need the mobility anyway?). Thoughts?

Basinboy

go for the core i7 3770K, its the only version you can overclock. The 64gb SSD is pointless, save up money and buy a 120gb/180gb one down the road.

#28 Posted by godzillavskong (7899 posts) -
[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Another quick newb question:

When shopping for a disc drive, I've come around to the idea about getting a BD-RW/DVD-RW combo but wanted to know if it's better to buy an internal drive or an external and if it's better to buy with software or without (why would I need software, as well?). Thanks guys.

MW2ismygame
get a single cd/dvd drive, they are $17-$20 almost everywhere, no you dont need software, you just connect the sata cables to the motherboard and done

Yeah, that seems like the cheapest, easiest part of the PC to add. That and adding ram. I still have 2 or 3 CDRW/DVDRW laying around. I thought about putting another one in my PC, but then I thought about the extra power constraints, and figured it's not worth it.
#29 Posted by godzillavskong (7899 posts) -

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking I'll put together. The links provided would be the literal product I buy, everything seem like it'll come together properly?

  • Case:NZXT Phantom 410 (Black w/ White trim)$84.99
  • PSU:Corsair 600CX (600w)$62.24
  • MOBO:ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro$159.98
  • CPU:Intel i7 3770, Quad core @ 3.4-3.9ghz$319.99
  • RAM:8GB DDR3 RAM$53.99
  • GPU:EVGA GTX 670$399.99
  • HDD:2TB Internal Drive$109.99
  • Disc D.:Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer$64.99
  • SSD:Samsung 64GB SSD$89.99
  • OS:Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium$99.99
  • TOTAL = $1,589.14 w/tax

With tax I'm a bit over my budget but it won't apply to many of the purchases so I'm pretty close to where I wanted to be. Down the road I'll add a card reader, upgrade the RAM to 16GB, add a sound card and maybe a TV tuner or Wi-fi card (doubt I'll need it, why would I need the mobility anyway?). Thoughts?

blaznwiipspman1

go for the core i7 3770K, its the only version you can overclock. The 64gb SSD is pointless, save up money and buy a 120gb/180gb one down the road.

Indeed. I plan on adding one also, but I think I'm going to go with something at least of the 200-300gb range. I just wish those bad boys would come down in price!
#30 Posted by GamerSyrim (115 posts) -

Starting to look good hope all goes well with building the beast!

#31 Posted by buccomatic (1941 posts) -

Yo.

Thanks to Sony/MS sitting on waiting for the next gen a little bit longer (plus not really up for the Wii-U at launch, I'm willing to wait), I have enough funds to seriously invest into building myself a rig. Problem is, I'm a total newb at this, so feel free to mock me if I say anything completely ludicrous. I'd prefer to build my own since it's cheaper and it'd be a good learning experience. My goal is to make the thing last at least 6-7 years with upgrades towards the end of that timeline. I have $1500 I'm willing to commit. So, obviously I'll need the following and I haven't added up the costs yet but these are what I'm considering:

  • CPU - AMD Bulldozer FX 8150, $299 with liquid cooling on Amazon, suggestions to keep it cost effective while providing the highest performance possible?
  • GPU - Radeon 7970, (willing to rethink this as I might prefer buying two and linking them if it's better for performance)
  • PSU - Whatever works best for the lowest price
  • Motherboard - Haven't looked into this yet, thought I'd pick my processor first
  • RAM - Minimum 8GB, ideally 16GB-32GB (all depends on brand and what the cost is. I can wait to upgrade to a higher amount, but 8GB to start minimum)
  • Disc Drive (I'm more keen on biting the bullet and getting a Blu-ray/DVD RW combo, would love to use this rig as a media center and have the option for Blu-ray)
  • HDD (SSD option if my budget allows for it, doesn't need to be huge though, I already own a 1TB external drive I'd use in addition)
  • Monitors (going the dual route, need some suggestions here. Only one need be high-level, the other I'm going to have around for work to simply make life more awesome)
  • K+M (suggestions?)
  • OS (Windows 7 64-bit)
  • Fans+Cooling (no idea where to start with this one)
  • Case (no idea here either)

Now, I'm looking more toward performance but don't want to sacrifice features, so any pointers on exactly where I'm going to have to straddle the line? BTW, definitely looking for 1080p SLI settings. And what kind of sound card will I need if I've got headphones? One last thing: any issues arise if I want to use an HDTV with this rig?

Again, I still have no idea how to put it together and am dumb as can be on how these parts will work together. If you were in my shoes (those with way more experience at this), what kind of rig would you build?

Cheers.

Basinboy

no to amd cpu - get intel it's worth spending more money on

no to radeon gpu - nvidia smokes ati driver support - go for stability go with nvidia

psu - corsair

motherboard - asus

ram - gskill

disc drive - cheapest one that doesn't break down

HDD - western digital 10,000 rpm

K+M microsoft naturalelite keyboard / logitech mouse

case - coolermaster

#32 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Alright, so here's what I'm thinking I'll put together. The links provided would be the literal product I buy, everything seem like it'll come together properly?

  • Case:NZXT Phantom 410 (Black w/ White trim)$84.99
  • PSU:Corsair 600CX (600w)$62.24
  • MOBO:ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro$159.98
  • CPU:Intel i7 3770, Quad core @ 3.4-3.9ghz$319.99
  • RAM:8GB DDR3 RAM$53.99
  • GPU:EVGA GTX 670$399.99
  • HDD:2TB Internal Drive$109.99
  • Disc D.:Pioneer Internal Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Writer$64.99
  • SSD:Samsung 64GB SSD$89.99
  • OS:Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium$99.99
  • TOTAL = $1,589.14 w/tax

With tax I'm a bit over my budget but it won't apply to many of the purchases so I'm pretty close to where I wanted to be. Down the road I'll add a card reader, upgrade the RAM to 16GB, add a sound card and maybe a TV tuner or Wi-fi card (doubt I'll need it, why would I need the mobility anyway?). Thoughts?

blaznwiipspman1

go for the core i7 3770K, its the only version you can overclock. The 64gb SSD is pointless, save up money and buy a 120gb/180gb one down the road.

I've been volleying the idea of getting a 2700k or 3770k, but I'm starting to get a little sensitive on the price. At this point, I'm leaning a little more toward the 2700k (Sandy Bridge) so I can allocate some of my funds into something else.

About the SSD, the reason I only listed a 64GB is (1) any higher and they start to leave my price range and (2) it's primary function would be solely as my boot drive, that way I can could separate my data from the OS and if my system ever crashes, I'll still be able to keep my hard drive intact.

no to amd cpu - get intel it's worth spending more money on

no to radeon gpu - nvidia smokes ati driver support - go for stability go with nvidia

psu - corsair

motherboard - asus

ram - gskill

disc drive - cheapest one that doesn't break down

HDD - western digital 10,000 rpm

K+M microsoft naturalelite keyboard / logitech mouse

case - coolermaster

buccomatic

CPU+GPU: Agreed, shopping around now for a 2700k/3770k and a GTX 670

PSU: Corsair 600X (still not sure if I need a higher voltage or not)

Motherboard: ASUS Z77 PRO-M

RAM: Still up in the air, 8GB-16GB, are there performance issues with certain types of RAM? My lurking on forums seems to indicate so.

Disc Drive: Beyond gaming I'm going to use my PC as media center, so a Blu-ray drive is kinda necessary (at some point). I figure I might as well bite the extra $40 for the BD-ROM initially but I'm willing to wait if it makes more sense fiscally.

HDD: Largest size+best performance for lowest price. Right now I found a 2TB Seagate for 109.99, not sure if I'll be able to find better.

K+M: I'll shop for those later, thanks for the recommendation

Case: NZXT Phantom 410, Black w/White trim

#33 Posted by 04dcarraher (19589 posts) -
For a cpu skip the 2700k just get the 2600k instead, For psu I would go with a Corsair 650w TX series 8gb is plenty now and if you need more which I doubt you add it later, and now for memory brand just pick up a name brand you will be fine For the harddrive just make sure its 7200 rpm
#34 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Purchased:

  • NZXT Phantom 410, Gunmetal @ $84.99
  • Corsair 650TX PSU @ $80.99
  • LG UH12LS29 Internal SATA 16x DVDRW, 12x BD-ROM with 3D Playback @ $59.99

Upcoming purchases (pending):

  • ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro
  • Intel i7 2600k, Sandy Bridge @ 3.4ghz
  • Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3, 1600mhz
  • EVGA GTX 670
  • Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
  • SanDisk 120GB SSD
  • Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 2TB 7200RPM SATA III

I'm still on the fence about the type of HDD I want (I thought I was settled on a 2TB seagate but the customer reviews were bad, still looking but would love as much space as possible), plus the motherboard/cpu outfit is still up in the air and probably will be up until I buy.

In all I've committed $226, current quote has me slated to spend $1,445.89. Not too shabby. Thoughts on my rig?

#35 Posted by WiiRocks66 (3488 posts) -

Purchased:

  • NZXT Phantom 410, Gunmetal @ $84.99
  • Corsair 650TX PSU @ $80.99
  • LG UH12LS29 Internal SATA 16x DVDRW, 12x BD-ROM with 3D Playback @ $59.99

Upcoming purchases (pending):

  • ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro
  • Intel i7 2600k, Sandy Bridge @ 3.4ghz
  • Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3, 1600mhz
  • EVGA GTX 670
  • Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
  • SanDisk 120GB SSD
  • Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 2TB 7200RPM SATA III

I'm still on the fence about the type of HDD I want (I thought I was settled on a 2TB seagate but the customer reviews were bad, still looking but would love as much space as possible), plus the motherboard/cpu outfit is still up in the air and probably will be up until I buy.

In all I've committed $226, current quote has me slated to spend $1,445.89. Not too shabby. Thoughts on my rig?

Basinboy

Pretty good, but get an ATX board instead of a micro-atx.

#36 Posted by roleplayer2004 (921 posts) -

I've been thinking about building a PC myself. It's not a beast by any stretch of the imagination, but it's very nice and will last you a few years.

You should get:

GPU - Nvidea GTX 570

CPU - Intel Quad Core 3.4 Gz

RAM - 8 GB

MEM - 1 Terrabyte (2 if your a hardcore gamer)

Mouse - Razer Mamba

Keyboard - Logitech G19

Monitor - Samsung LS27A350H 27" LED

#37 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

[QUOTE="Basinboy"]

Purchased:

  • NZXT Phantom 410, Gunmetal @ $84.99
  • Corsair 650TX PSU @ $80.99
  • LG UH12LS29 Internal SATA 16x DVDRW, 12x BD-ROM with 3D Playback @ $59.99

Upcoming purchases (pending):

  • ASUS Intel Z77 M-Pro
  • Intel i7 2600k, Sandy Bridge @ 3.4ghz
  • Corsair Vengeance 8GB DDR3, 1600mhz
  • EVGA GTX 670
  • Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium
  • SanDisk 120GB SSD
  • Hitachi Deskstar 3.5" 2TB 7200RPM SATA III

I'm still on the fence about the type of HDD I want (I thought I was settled on a 2TB seagate but the customer reviews were bad, still looking but would love as much space as possible), plus the motherboard/cpu outfit is still up in the air and probably will be up until I buy.

In all I've committed $226, current quote has me slated to spend $1,445.89. Not too shabby. Thoughts on my rig?

WiiRocks66

Pretty good, but get an ATX board instead of a micro-atx.

Can I ask: what should I be looking for in a motherboard? Earlier in the thread it was suggested I get a Z77, but in searching I've come to understand there are differences in quality between the aftermarket versions. What should I be paying attention to and what would I be sacrificing if I didn't get the most top of the line?

#38 Posted by egger7577 (588 posts) -

I have to assume you're not going to be overclocking which is a feature many people look for in motherboards. It's not necessary but some people are into that and like having motherboards that allow easier overclocking. For the most part you should consider additional PCI experess slots so you have the option of SLI'ing or crossfiring your video cards later if you choose. The mother boards will usually be labled as crossfire or SLI ready. Also, some cards have better integrated sound built in than others and make sure the ram you choose matches the specs listed for the board. Newegg or Tiger Direct list all the specs for the boards and people post their reviews on the products which is very insightful in deciding.

#39 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

I have to assume you're not going to be overclocking which is a feature many people look for in motherboards. It's not necessary but some people are into that and like having motherboards that allow easier overclocking. For the most part you should consider additional PCI experess slots so you have the option of SLI'ing or crossfiring your video cards later if you choose. The mother boards will usually be labled as crossfire or SLI ready. Also, some cards have better integrated sound built in than others and make sure the ram you choose matches the specs listed for the board. Newegg or Tiger Direct list all the specs for the boards and people post their reviews on the products which is very insightful in deciding.

egger7577

Gotcha, I figured I'd hold off on overclocking for a time until I become more familiar with a custom PC setup and the entire process, but I'll be buying the compatible components in case I feel like overclocking later on.

#40 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

8000th post. Man, I dunno if I should consider this an accomplishment or just plain sad.

Anyway, I've built out my PC in the link below:

LINK

The total balance equates closer to $1400, which is good because I'm still without a K+M and a monitor (again, I'll be using my Samsung 32" in the meantime).

This look good for a final purchase? Any changes you would make at my budget of $1500?

Thanks for all the advice as well.

EDIT: BTW, the HDD still isn't set, I was going to get this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Deskstar-7200RPM-Internal-0S02861/dp/B003S6ID20/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1338232565&sr=8-12

But the price went up after yesterday, but it still looks like the one to get for what I'm willing to spend. Thoughts?

#41 Posted by Basinboy (11169 posts) -

Repost bump, I know no shame.

8000th post. Man, I dunno if I should consider this an accomplishment or just plain sad.

Anyway, I've built out my PC in the link below:

LINK

The total balance equates closer to $1400, which is good because I'm still without a K+M and a monitor (again, I'll be using my Samsung 32" in the meantime).

This look good for a final purchase? Any changes you would make at my budget of $1500?

Thanks for all the advice as well.

EDIT: BTW, the HDD still isn't set, I was going to get this:

http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Deskstar-7200RPM-Internal-0S02861/dp/B003S6ID20/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1338232565&sr=8-12

But the price went up after yesterday, but it still looks like the one to get for what I'm willing to spend. Thoughts?

Basinboy

#42 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6046 posts) -

well if I were you, i wouldn't get a 670, but instead pick up a last gen card used. Those cards perform really well and can be had for half the price of the new ones, but the again used items aren't for everybody. For example I found a geforce 570 gtx going for $180 on craigslist....it sold pretty quickly though :(