Black Ops Expansion Pack

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#1 Posted by incredible_one (465 posts) -

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

#2 Posted by biggest_loser (24117 posts) -
Do you want to have this debate about every annual sequel? Its not like Activision are the only ones doing it.
#3 Posted by Qixote (10776 posts) -

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

incredible_one

Identical in what way? That they both have guns? Did MW2 take place in Vietnam? No. Did it have bot support? No. Did it have zombie mode? No. It seems to me that Black Ops offers enough to make people want to pay full price for it. And I'm sure plenty will.

#4 Posted by teardropmina (2806 posts) -

you're kidding right? it's CoD game and we're going to have one at $60 every year (price may spike in the future of course).

#5 Posted by yemen_headshot (514 posts) -

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

incredible_one
why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??
#6 Posted by UnknownElement4 (2603 posts) -

Black Ops is definitely not an expansion.

#7 Posted by millerlight89 (18641 posts) -
[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot
why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

Yea right :roll:
#8 Posted by morrowindnic (1541 posts) -

[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot

why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

activi$ion is one of the **** companies around. And people did complain about l4d2.

#9 Posted by ironman388 (1454 posts) -

[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot

why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

there was ALOT of complaining about l4d2, however l4d2 was WAY more than an expansion and was better than l4d1 in many ways, except for the characters.

#10 Posted by Godofnerdyness (3248 posts) -

[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot

why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

:shock: Were you under a rock when L4D2 was announced?

#11 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -
[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot
why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

probably because its valve. and what they did with that game was far more acceptable than activisions flop with mw2. 2 free content patches, easily moddable, given out free to people, gone on sale for dirt cheap many times and having actual support makes l4d2 ultimately superior to mw2. activision offered us 2 map packs, 15 bucks each, and had mw2 for 60 bucks even through steam sales periods. not to mention horrible support for their product. this is why people hate activision. please dont ask that question ever again.
#12 Posted by biggest_loser (24117 posts) -
[QUOTE="yemen_headshot"][QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yellosnolvr
why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

probably because its valve. and what they did with that game was far more acceptable than activisions flop with mw2. 2 free content patches, easily moddable, given out free to people, gone on sale for dirt cheap many times and having actual support makes l4d2 ultimately superior to mw2. activision offered us 2 map packs, 15 bucks each, and had mw2 for 60 bucks even through steam sales periods. not to mention horrible support for their product. this is why people hate activision. please dont ask that question ever again.

You think MW2 was a flop?
#13 Posted by gmaster456 (7561 posts) -
Black ops is a Completely different game than Modern Warfare. Different Setting, Different guns, Different Developer, Different Gameplay modes. Even if it was an "expansion" I would gladly pay the $60 for all the new stuff thats included
#14 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -
You think MW2 was a flop? biggest_loser
mw2 itself wasnt a flop. activision (and infinity ward), themselves, flopped. it had all of the ingredients for a flop, but the massive amounts of fans it has saved the game from being a flop. sigh...
#16 Posted by biggest_loser (24117 posts) -
[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] mw2 itself wasnt a flop. activision (and infinity ward), themselves, flopped. it had all of the ingredients for a flop, but the massive amounts of fans it has saved the game from being a flop. sigh...

Hardly. They made a solid action game. You must have been one of those fans if you're judging the game. Why did you buy it if you were so concerned about it not having those extra tools?
#17 Posted by yellosnolvr (19302 posts) -
[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] mw2 itself wasnt a flop. activision (and infinity ward), themselves, flopped. it had all of the ingredients for a flop, but the massive amounts of fans it has saved the game from being a flop. sigh...

Hardly. They made a solid action game. You must have been one of those fans if you're judging the game. Why did you buy it if you were so concerned about it not having those extra tools?

i bought the game in december of last year to play with my friends. i was certainly optimistic about my purchase but realized those things after a few weeks of playing. i dont know how im a fan just because i happened to make this purchase. but okie dokie
#18 Posted by biggest_loser (24117 posts) -
[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] mw2 itself wasnt a flop. activision (and infinity ward), themselves, flopped. it had all of the ingredients for a flop, but the massive amounts of fans it has saved the game from being a flop. sigh...

Hardly. They made a solid action game. You must have been one of those fans if you're judging the game. Why did you buy it if you were so concerned about it not having those extra tools?

i bought the game in december of last year to play with my friends. i was certainly optimistic about my purchase but realized those things after a few weeks of playing. i dont know how im a fan just because i happened to make this purchase. but okie dokie

So despite all the articles and blogs written about the lack of dedicated servers you still bought it and only realised it after a few weeks of playing?
#19 Posted by millerlight89 (18641 posts) -
[QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"] Hardly. They made a solid action game. You must have been one of those fans if you're judging the game. Why did you buy it if you were so concerned about it not having those extra tools?

i bought the game in december of last year to play with my friends. i was certainly optimistic about my purchase but realized those things after a few weeks of playing. i dont know how im a fan just because i happened to make this purchase. but okie dokie

So despite all the articles and blogs written about the lack of dedicated servers you still bought it and only realised it after a few weeks of playing?

Quit throwing words into the man's mouth. He said nothing about the lack of dedicated servers. Hell you were the one mentioning "tools," which could refer to a great deal of things. I bought it, and I knew it lacked those so called tools you vaguely refer to. That is not what made the game bad. The SP was a joke, along with the horribly balanced multiplayer. The game is eaten up with hackers. So basically you are left with a 4-5 hour campaign chocked full of corny characters and cliche situations. The overall game was a pretty big let down. Hopefully the next will not be as bad.
#20 Posted by biggest_loser (24117 posts) -
[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] i bought the game in december of last year to play with my friends. i was certainly optimistic about my purchase but realized those things after a few weeks of playing. i dont know how im a fan just because i happened to make this purchase. but okie dokie

So despite all the articles and blogs written about the lack of dedicated servers you still bought it and only realised it after a few weeks of playing?

Quit throwing words into the man's mouth. He said nothing about the lack of dedicated servers. Hell you were the one mentioning "tools," which could refer to a great deal of things. I bought it, and I knew it lacked those so called tools you vaguely refer to. That is not what made the game bad. The SP was a joke, along with the horribly balanced multiplayer. The game is eaten up with hackers. So basically you are left with a 4-5 hour campaign chocked full of corny characters and cliche situations. The overall game was a pretty big let down. Hopefully the next will not be as bad.

If you read back he compares the games lack of support with MW2 to the modding opportunities provided by L4D - I assume he was angry with the lack of modding tools then. There's no need to get angry ol' friend! Lets not let the Bobby K throw the gauntlet down on our friendship! We have known each other for too long my brother!
#21 Posted by Evz0rz (4624 posts) -

Good one TC :roll:

Too bad this looks like a lot more fun than MW2 since that felt like one of the most soul-less games I've played in a while. Treyarch is definitely putting a lot of effort into this title

#22 Posted by JangoWuzHere (17163 posts) -
[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="biggest_loser"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] i bought the game in december of last year to play with my friends. i was certainly optimistic about my purchase but realized those things after a few weeks of playing. i dont know how im a fan just because i happened to make this purchase. but okie dokie

So despite all the articles and blogs written about the lack of dedicated servers you still bought it and only realised it after a few weeks of playing?

Quit throwing words into the man's mouth. He said nothing about the lack of dedicated servers. Hell you were the one mentioning "tools," which could refer to a great deal of things. I bought it, and I knew it lacked those so called tools you vaguely refer to. That is not what made the game bad. The SP was a joke, along with the horribly balanced multiplayer. The game is eaten up with hackers. So basically you are left with a 4-5 hour campaign chocked full of corny characters and cliche situations. The overall game was a pretty big let down. Hopefully the next will not be as bad.

Speeeeec oppppps
#23 Posted by mhofever (3954 posts) -

No one's forcing you to buy it. If you don't want to buy it, don't buy it.

#24 Posted by Frenzyd109 (2276 posts) -
What's with PC gamers and this mentality of, "I want more for less!" You get dedicated servers, mod tools, better visuals, yet you want it, better yet, demand it for $10 less than the console counterpart... I don't get it. Times change, if you stop and expect things are going to stay the same, you're going to miss out on a lot. Also, if you're in the position where you think $60 is a lot to pay, you should be looking for a better source of income.
#25 Posted by badtaker (3661 posts) -
What about every year NFS,FIFA,Madden,stalker ..............
#26 Posted by dakan45 (18707 posts) -

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

incredible_one
:roll: ARE YOU SERIOUS? New singleplayer campaign with better ai and with new gameplay features in the series such as flying the helicopter in vietnam. Tons of new weapons, seriously there are plenty more. All the maps in mp are new, new gamemodes, endless customization options which counts as a huge non expansion feature in multiplayer, last but not least it has a diffirent mp upgrading character system. Let alone dedicated servers and bots which is something that has gone away the last few years.
Do you want to have this debate about every annual sequel? Its not like Activision are the only ones doing it. biggest_loser
^ Also that, everyone is using the last game they released as a template to make an improved version of the firsts. Thats how game sequels are nowdays. You wont see much diffirences from the first. Examples: uncharted 2, the stalker games(wait those are expansions and come to think of it you should take a look at them tc and see how identical are and how few new things are so they can actually count as expansions, unlike black ops) also killzone 3, fallout new vegas, l4d2 and if you think about it even bc2 is an expansion. It has the same weapons as the first, hardly any additions and it has weak campaign. Also for the record i still play mw2 online and singleplayer was not a joke in comparison with others, like bc2 singleplayer. Its easy to bash one game when you are not taking a look to the others for doing it too.
#27 Posted by dakan45 (18707 posts) -
What about every year NFS,FIFA,Madden,stalker ..............badtaker
A bit offtopic, but i would also like to remind that in the past EA wanted to make medal of honor "one game every years" but rising sun and frontline proved that they didnt have enough time to make a proper game and dropped the idea. I guess its activision's turn to give it a shot.
#28 Posted by XXI_World (2050 posts) -

What about every year stalker ..............badtaker


What?

#29 Posted by Daytona_178 (14962 posts) -

What utter rubbish, Black Ops is a FULL game and will most likely deserve the price that's charged for it.

#30 Posted by ventnor (1061 posts) -

[QUOTE="incredible_one"]

Shouldn't Black Ops be priced as an expansion pack? Seeing it's going to be so identical as MW2? I hope it won't we another 60$...

yemen_headshot

why all the hate for activision ???? i didn't see lots of ppl complaining when valve announced l4d 2 ??

Bobby Kotick, Prices, DLC.

#31 Posted by sakshamH (352 posts) -
Black ops is a Completely different game than Modern Warfare. Different Setting, Different guns, Different Developer, Different Gameplay modes. Even if it was an "expansion" I would gladly pay the $60 for all the new stuff thats includedgmaster456
Me to. it owns mW2 from what I've seen