AMD/ATI vs nVidia...

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#1 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (5775 posts) -

I've always used nVidia cards, but my friend has always used AMD/ATI, and swears by them. We're always arguing over which is better...

So I'm curious to see what you guys prefer... Do you have a preference and why?

#2 Posted by C_Rule (9739 posts) -
Neither one is really (over-all) better than the other. Arguing over which is better, is a bit juvenile.
#3 Posted by rem_game (34 posts) -

I would prefer ati because most of their cards are very cheap and give descent perfomance. Nvidia has also very good cards, and right now it has the edge over ati, but that is very less. Competition wise, it's very close, but for me ati, and only ati. The irony though here is that when i asked my father for a graphics card, he gave me a nvidia 8400gs.

#4 Posted by Elann2008 (32953 posts) -

I would prefer ati because most of their cards are very cheap and give descent perfomance. Nvidia has also very good cards, and right now it has the edge over ati, but that is very less. Competition wise, it's very close, but for me ati, and only ati. The irony though here is that when i asked my father for a graphics card, he gave me a nvidia 8400gs.

rem_game
Since you chose AMD, why didn't you vote?
#5 Posted by ferret-gamer (17310 posts) -
I've always had better luck with AMD cards, nvidia cards tend to break down or develop problems in my experience.
#6 Posted by whitey_rolls (2489 posts) -

I've purchased both, liked both - whatever is the best deal for the money at the time I'll go with.

#7 Posted by Nethemis (156 posts) -

I've always had better luck with AMD cards, nvidia cards tend to break down or develop problems in my experience.ferret-gamer

not sure if serious -.-

#8 Posted by topgunmv (10184 posts) -

I go with best price performance in the 3-400$ range. More often than not that's amd.

#9 Posted by ShadowDeathX (10578 posts) -

I purchased both, liked both - whatever is the best deal for the money at the time I'll go with.

whitey_rolls
Same Story here.
#10 Posted by JimmyJumpy (2554 posts) -

[QUOTE="whitey_rolls"]

I purchased both, liked both - whatever is the best deal for the money at the time I'll go with.

ShadowDeathX

Same Story here.

Yep. Here too... I go for what I consider to be "the best" at any particular moment. If and when my wallet agrees, of course.

#11 Posted by kraken2109 (13007 posts) -

I prefer nvidia software, but if an amd card performed the same for cheaper i'd buy that.

#12 Posted by Jack-o-Thompson (2166 posts) -
ATI gets better fps but I like nvidia for better software and better performance on physics.
#13 Posted by ferret-gamer (17310 posts) -

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I've always had better luck with AMD cards, nvidia cards tend to break down or develop problems in my experience.Nethemis

not sure if serious -.-

Lets see, my gtx 280 died then overheated all the time, my 8600gt worked fine, my 7900gto developed major problems and artifacting after a couple weeks, my 7600gs lasted 6 months, i can't remember what happened to my fx5200 but i had to replace it for some reason. And on AMD's side: My 6950 had its fan die, but that was XFX's crappy HSF fault, not AMD's. My 3870 lasted a few years then sold it, and my Rage 3d card is still working to this day.
#14 Posted by nilzg (753 posts) -
I've always worked with NVidia, the only ATI card I had was in my (old, previous) laptop but I had no trouble with any of my video cards, the only one that broke down was a geforce 7950GT after 6 months of usage.
#15 Posted by JimmyJumpy (2554 posts) -

[QUOTE="Nethemis"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I've always had better luck with AMD cards, nvidia cards tend to break down or develop problems in my experience.ferret-gamer

not sure if serious -.-

Lets see, my gtx 280 died then overheated all the time, my 8600gt worked fine, my 7900gto developed major problems and artifacting after a couple weeks, my 7600gs lasted 6 months, i can't remember what happened to my fx5200 but i had to replace it for some reason. And on AMD's side: My 6950 had its fan die, but that was XFX's crappy HSF fault, not AMD's. My 3870 lasted a few years then sold it, and my Rage 3d card is still working to this day.

I've only had problems with an NVidia GeForce 5200, but that was after I threw it out the window because of scrotum-shriveling performance (it was worse than my MMX 440). Replaced it with a PoV 5950 at the time, by the way, which worked like a charm until it was time to go to the retirement home and I got an Asus EN7600GT...

As of 2009 I switched to ATI, because I wanted a decent replacement for my 2007 Asus EN8800GTS 512 TOP and NVidia had nothing that could compete with ATI at that particular moment...

Last little prob I had was with a squeaky fan on an AMD XFX7970 Dual Fan Black Edition, but those are the only "drawbacks" I've ever had with either manufacturer.

#16 Posted by Slow_Show (2153 posts) -

Personally I'd lean slightly towards Nvidia simply because I've had better experiences with them (no issues with a Geforce 2something, 4something, 8600M GT and a 560 Ti), while both of my ATI/AMD GPUs have had issues (wonky HD4850, my netbook's E-350 doesn't always play nice with driver updates), but there really isn't any difference and you should just go with whatever has the best value for your budget.

#17 Posted by LordRork (2690 posts) -

I've been finding ATi/AMD to be better value than Nvidia. The extra bells and whistles on Nvidia cards just don't feel that useful for most games, so I prefer to put the money into a more powerful AMD card.

#18 Posted by lulmont (670 posts) -

All price/performance for me.

#19 Posted by QQabitmoar (1969 posts) -

From a 5800ultra to sli 7600s to a 8800gtx and a 8800gts to a gtx260, I never had a single problem. Except that SLI was a mess back then, and I was still in middle school and too immature to be smart about it and actually use google.

My 5870 was the best bang/buck I ever had. But the drivers were a MESS, I had to track down alpha versions of 10.4 to stop suttering in BC2, but those drivers had problems with other games, etc etc. Plus, the fan was too damn loud, it was a vanilla version though. I sold it as soon as the 580 came out.

I am running dual 5770s on my secondary machine, but I don't use it as much. I cba to hunt down drivers and CAPs anymore though, it's annoying.

My 580 has been running like a dream, I even neglect looking for new drivers because I don't feel I need them. It runs hotter than I would have wanted to, but nothing serious. The only problem (during the summer it's a problem, in the winter it's a blessing) is that the card produces tons of heat, and the room is usually 3-4 C hotter than the rest of the house.

For me, it's Nvidia all the way, at least untill AMD/ATi fix their damn drivers and CFX scaling/compability.

Physx, CUDA etc. are nice bonuses to have too.

#20 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6028 posts) -

both are decent haven't had a real problem with either of them. Maybe some small problems here and there like flickering in some games for my radeon 4770 and a game not even wanting to start up with my geforce 460. I prefer to go with AMD mainly because they have best bang for buck, and power consumption is always better than nvidia, what can I say I love my low power usage cards. My 6950 performs better than the 560ti and it uses less power than nvidias geforce 460.....pretty pathetic on nvidia's side but thats how it ended up.

#21 Posted by Snaptrap (2186 posts) -

I have no preference as both produce great cards. I've always used ATI because I don't see the need to switch.

#22 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13598 posts) -

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]I've always had better luck with AMD cards, nvidia cards tend to break down or develop problems in my experience.Nethemis

not sure if serious -.-

Nvidia cards tend to resemble a phoenix, they burn hot and then go down in a blaze of glory. Typically when they self destruct, is when I would recommend people to upgrade anyway.

#23 Posted by jedikevin2 (5187 posts) -

I've bought up to50 cards over the last 4 years and I usually get best performance for the budget at the time. 9600 gso's, gts 250's, gtx 460's, amd 4850's, 5830's, couple 5850's, amd 6850's, 6870's, one 6950 that bios updates to a 6970, etc. Both companies make great products and I have never had any crash on any rig i've made for people. I tend to like nvidia drivers more simply for the more centralization of the update procedure compared to amd mini patch wonderland though steam integration has eased things these days.

Price to performance has flipped all over the place for both companies. Right now, amd has the upper hand in my opinion expecially in the mid range arena but for a while those 460's were dang redicoulous in price. AMD to me tends to make a more "powerful" card but things even out after the nvidia "influence" on many games and drivers as a whole between the 2.

In the end, it just comes down to preference for each person.

#24 Posted by wis3boi (31115 posts) -

Nvidia for PhysX, general support, and a better control panel. I like both AMD and Nvidia hardware, but nvidia's supprot and controls seal the deal for me.

#25 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6028 posts) -

I've bought up to50 cards over the last 4 years and I usually get best performance for the budget at the time. 9600 gso's, gts 250's, gtx 460's, amd 4850's, 5830's, couple 5850's, amd 6850's, 6870's, one 6950 that bios updates to a 6970, etc. Both companies make great products and I have never had any crash on any rig i've made for people. I tend to like nvidia drivers more simply for the more centralization of the update procedure compared to amd mini patch wonderland though steam integration has eased things these days.

Price to performance has flipped all over the place for both companies. Right now, amd has the upper hand in my opinion expecially in the mid range arena but for a while those 460's were dang redicoulous in price. AMD to me tends to make a more "powerful" card but things even out after the nvidia "influence" on many games and drivers as a whole between the 2.

In the end, it just comes down to preference for each person.

jedikevin2

why do you have so many cards??

#26 Posted by jedikevin2 (5187 posts) -

[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

I've bought up to50 cards over the last 4 years and I usually get best performance for the budget at the time. 9600 gso's, gts 250's, gtx 460's, amd 4850's, 5830's, couple 5850's, amd 6850's, 6870's, one 6950 that bios updates to a 6970, etc. Both companies make great products and I have never had any crash on any rig i've made for people. I tend to like nvidia drivers more simply for the more centralization of the update procedure compared to amd mini patch wonderland though steam integration has eased things these days.

Price to performance has flipped all over the place for both companies. Right now, amd has the upper hand in my opinion expecially in the mid range arena but for a while those 460's were dang redicoulous in price. AMD to me tends to make a more "powerful" card but things even out after the nvidia "influence" on many games and drivers as a whole between the 2.

In the end, it just comes down to preference for each person.

blaznwiipspman1

why do you have so many cards??

I build computers for people from home. Not a major increase in revenue but a fun hobby to have and get to help many people with great rigs for good prices and better hardware. also lets me test alot of pieces of hardware.

#27 Posted by Cj19_32 (662 posts) -
My 9800gtx preformed to the way longer than I expected. And I love my 2 560ti's. When I built my newest computer I found that ATI actually cost more for what I wanted. But I am jealous of the vram that ATI packs into the competition.
#28 Posted by DevilMightCry (3478 posts) -
I personally prefer AMD right now because of cheaper price/performance ratio, better power consumption, crossfire scaling, and driver support. Nvidia has great performance, physX feature, and decent drivers. I think the time of the big gain in GPU performance is over from generation to another. I also dislike how nvidias support for older GPUs is not that great (I own a EVGA GTX295). I think it all comes down to which has better value and support for its time.
#29 Posted by JimmyJumpy (2554 posts) -

I personally prefer AMD right now because of cheaper price/performance ratio, better power consumption, crossfire scaling, and driver support.DevilMightCry

I would agree with you, if not for the 7970. First of all it has a healthy appetite for big wallets and secondly, it's a serious leap forward in respect to the 6970. AMD driver support has come a long way, but I'm still waiting on drivers to decently support crossfire in Skyrim, Rage, Driver San Francisco and quite a few other games... :(

#30 Posted by Silicel1 (2342 posts) -

Whichever offers the best performance for my budget.

#31 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13598 posts) -

My 9800gtx preformed to the way longer than I expected. And I love my 2 560ti's. When I built my newest computer I found that ATI actually cost more for what I wanted. But I am jealous of the vram that ATI packs into the competition.Cj19_32

:shock:

#32 Posted by kraken2109 (13007 posts) -

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"]My 9800gtx preformed to the way longer than I expected. And I love my 2 560ti's. When I built my newest computer I found that ATI actually cost more for what I wanted. But I am jealous of the vram that ATI packs into the competition.GummiRaccoon

:shock:

lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

#33 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6028 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"]My 9800gtx preformed to the way longer than I expected. And I love my 2 560ti's. When I built my newest computer I found that ATI actually cost more for what I wanted. But I am jealous of the vram that ATI packs into the competition.kraken2109

:shock:

lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

nope ionusx is a hardcore amd fanboy

#34 Posted by kraken2109 (13007 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

:shock:

blaznwiipspman1

lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

nope ionusx is a hardcore amd fanboy

He was one of the few people on this board who wasn't.
#35 Posted by General_X (9028 posts) -
There isn't really a "better" one between the two, it's all situational based on budget and other things. I do prefer Nvidia's drivers though...
#36 Posted by Lockedge (16794 posts) -
I generally go for the best deal. However, if an AMD card is about the same price as an Nvidia card with equal or better performance, I go for it. I'm not really loyal to AMD, but I have had better experiences with their cards.
#37 Posted by Cj19_32 (662 posts) -

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"]My 9800gtx preformed to the way longer than I expected. And I love my 2 560ti's. When I built my newest computer I found that ATI actually cost more for what I wanted. But I am jealous of the vram that ATI packs into the competition.GummiRaccoon

:shock:

"performed way longer" Typos happen.
#38 Posted by V4LENT1NE (12895 posts) -

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

:shock:

blaznwiipspman1

lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

nope ionusx is a hardcore amd fanboy

Haha, you have been posting Nvidia bashing for ages on here, you just posted in an Nvidia driver thread "what happened to qaulity Nvidia drivers" and left which is the SECOND time you have done that exact same thing. And I said you were a fanboy in a thread a few days back and you dissapeared from that to, not to mention someone just called you a fanboy in another thread. Really dude...

#39 Posted by James161324 (8315 posts) -

I prefer

nVidia

#40 Posted by kaitanuvax (3814 posts) -

I prefer the card:

1. That doesn't make me upgrade my 400W Corsair PSU

2. Costs $150.

3. Owns all games.

(because I'm a cheap ass)

Just so happened that it's AMD cards which fulfilled those requisites.

#41 Posted by SF_KiLLaMaN (6446 posts) -
Bought my first AMD card earlier this week. I don't have a preference for either Nvidia or AMD.
#42 Posted by BlackDevil99 (2329 posts) -

I prefer nvidia, but I'll get a AMD if the price is signifigantly better, like next week when i'll be getting a 6870

#43 Posted by osan0 (12628 posts) -

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"][QUOTE="whitey_rolls"]

I purchased both, liked both - whatever is the best deal for the money at the time I'll go with.

JimmyJumpy

Same Story here.

Yep. Here too... I go for what I consider to be "the best" at any particular moment. If and when my wallet agrees, of course.

same. ive had intel and AMD CPUs and nvidia and AMD GPUs. ive had good experiences with all so i just go with the best hardware in my price range at the time of purchase.
#44 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6028 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"] lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

V4LENT1NE

nope ionusx is a hardcore amd fanboy

Haha, you have been posting Nvidia bashing for ages on here, you just posted in an Nvidia driver thread "what happened to qaulity Nvidia drivers" and left which is the SECOND time you have done that exact same thing. And I said you were a fanboy in a thread a few days back and you dissapeared from that to, not to mention someone just called you a fanboy in another thread. Really dude...

whats your point? Ive been lead to believe that nvidia has the best drivers they're unbeatable top notch, nobody can touch them. So when I see a thread about nvidia drivers crashing Im a little confused is all.

#45 Posted by V4LENT1NE (12895 posts) -

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

nope ionusx is a hardcore amd fanboy

blaznwiipspman1

Haha, you have been posting Nvidia bashing for ages on here, you just posted in an Nvidia driver thread "what happened to qaulity Nvidia drivers" and left which is the SECOND time you have done that exact same thing. And I said you were a fanboy in a thread a few days back and you dissapeared from that to, not to mention someone just called you a fanboy in another thread. Really dude...

whats your point? Ive been lead to believe that nvidia has the best drivers they're unbeatable top notch, nobody can touch them. So when I see a thread about nvidia drivers crashing Im a little confused is all.

Nah you know fine well what your doing, you will take a shot at Nvidia any chance you get. Someone posts a driver problem you leave a smart ass comment, someone posts some benchmarks with an AMD card beating Nvidia you trash Nvidia, someone posts an AMD card losing to Nvidia and you call it bias (Which you did in the past, you once said a review was bias towards Nvidia because some of the game were sponsered by them even though some were sponsered by ATI to...). Your full of it man.
#46 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6028 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"]

Haha, you have been posting Nvidia bashing for ages on here, you just posted in an Nvidia driver thread "what happened to qaulity Nvidia drivers" and left which is the SECOND time you have done that exact same thing. And I said you were a fanboy in a thread a few days back and you dissapeared from that to, not to mention someone just called you a fanboy in another thread. Really dude...

V4LENT1NE

whats your point? Ive been lead to believe that nvidia has the best drivers they're unbeatable top notch, nobody can touch them. So when I see a thread about nvidia drivers crashing Im a little confused is all.

Nah you know fine well what your doing, you will take a shot at Nvidia any chance you get. Someone posts a driver problem you leave a smart ass comment, someone posts some benchmarks with an AMD card beating Nvidia you trash Nvidia, someone posts an AMD card losing to Nvidia and you call it bias (Which you did in the past, you once said a review was bias towards Nvidia because some of the game were sponsered by them even though some were sponsered by ATI to...). Your full of it man.

wow bro...if you're talking about the TweakTown review of the radeon 6950 then yeah i don't care if you call me bias, that was just ridiculous. The reviewer chose 9 games out of 10 titles that were nvidia sponsored, said the 6950 was getting owned by the geforce 460 and called it a day. For a professional thats unacceptable, but I guess when the website is getting donations from nvidia its an obvious outcome. Anyways I stand by what I said, if nvidia drivers are the best then I shouldn't be seeing any problem threads created on these forums. If not then you admit they're not as good as ppl say they are.

#47 Posted by V4LENT1NE (12895 posts) -

[QUOTE="V4LENT1NE"][QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

whats your point? Ive been lead to believe that nvidia has the best drivers they're unbeatable top notch, nobody can touch them. So when I see a thread about nvidia drivers crashing Im a little confused is all.

blaznwiipspman1

Nah you know fine well what your doing, you will take a shot at Nvidia any chance you get. Someone posts a driver problem you leave a smart ass comment, someone posts some benchmarks with an AMD card beating Nvidia you trash Nvidia, someone posts an AMD card losing to Nvidia and you call it bias (Which you did in the past, you once said a review was bias towards Nvidia because some of the game were sponsered by them even though some were sponsered by ATI to...). Your full of it man.

wow bro...if you're talking about the TweakTown review of the radeon 6950 then yeah i don't care if you call me bias, that was just ridiculous. The reviewer chose 9 games out of 10 titles that were nvidia sponsored, said the 6950 was getting owned by the geforce 460 and called it a day. For a professional thats unacceptable, but I guess when the website is getting donations from nvidia its an obvious outcome. Anyways I stand by what I said, if nvidia drivers are the best then I shouldn't be seeing any problem threads created on these forums. If not then you admit they're not as good as ppl say they are.

You see one person having an Nvidia driver problem and that means they are not the best? Go over to AMD forums and see how many threads there are on their cards having problems, does that mean that they are not the best now also? Honesly what the hell are you trying to prove, you talk so much crap. As for the review, resorting to saying the games were all Nvidia sponsered and the reviewer was taking Nvidia money, rofl just rofl, go cry some more.

#48 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13598 posts) -

In all honestly, most of the "drivers" problems people have is actually pebkac.

#49 Posted by Bikouchu35 (7351 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

[QUOTE="Cj19_32"]

:shock:

kraken2109

lol

ionusx alt confirmed.

Haha, if only that was true.

In all honestly, most of the "drivers" problems people have is actually pebkac.

GummiRaccoon

I never understood why the armchair rest and the keyboard arm rest always gets blamed for the problems.

#50 Posted by GummiRaccoon (13598 posts) -

[QUOTE="GummiRaccoon"]

In all honestly, most of the "drivers" problems people have is actually pebkac.

Bikouchu35

I never understood why the armchair rest and the keyboard arm rest always gets blamed for the problems.

not sure if serious