[QUOTE="jakes456"]Intel i3 destroys AMD.
AMD is so far behind they need to throw in the towel now.
superclocked
O rly? [QUOTE="Hardware Secrets"] The FX processors have their clock multiplier unlocked, allowing you to overclock them by changing this parameter. With the FX-8350, which runs internally at 4 GHz multiplying a base clock of 200 MHz by 20, we could increase the clock multiplier to 22 and the base clock to 212 MHz, resulting in an internal clock rate of 4,664 MHz, a 16.6% increase over the CPU default clock rate. Then we replaced the stock cooler with AMDs liquid cooling solution, and we were able to increase the CPU multiplier to 22.5 and the base clock to 213 MHz, resulting in an internal clock rate of 4,792 MHz, a 19.8% increase over the CPU default clock rate. kraken2109
They got 4.8 ghz.
Now for their game benchmarks, (They won't let me post their images here). Colours are to make reading easier, they mean nothing.
Starcraft 2: 3470: 185, FX8350: 178
Far Cry 2: 3470: 133, FX8350: 131
Dirt 3: 3470: 100, FX8350: 96
BF3 (assuming single player): 3470: 86, FX8350: 87
Borderlands 2: 3470: 85,FX8350: 85
So we can safely say there is no noticeable difference in gaming, since these benchmarks were on low settings to ensure a CPU bottleneck.
Looking at cinebench which fully uses all cores, FX8350 beats 3470 by 22%
Yes, really. I like how the benchmarks compare a 3.2 GHz stock processor vs a 4.0 GHz one. Let's compare the similarly priced 3570K, which can overclock to 4.6 quite often:
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpus/2012/05/01/intel-core-i5-3570k-cpu-review/8
People aren't kidding when they say Intel smashes AMD in the face. AMD simply can't match the IPC of Intel, that's why they need an 800 MHz discrepancy just to be able to pull even in some games. Since we all love benchmarks so much, let's take a look at other applications/productivity:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/3
Photoshop:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/5
Winzip:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/FX-8350-vs-Core-i5-3470-CPU-Review/1657/8
This is the sad state of AMD CPU engineering at the moment. That's why they're in trouble. Their processors suck. End of story. Anyone claiming otherwise is a homer or misinformed.
AMD FX-8350 @ $220:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284
Intel 3570K @ 220:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504&Tpk=3570K
Yes, your eyes aren't playing tricks on you. They're actually the same price. Whoever's reading these posts and wondering which processor to purchase, trust me, don't even think twice about this. If you're considering the FX-8350, don't. AMD are run by some of the most inept people around if they think they can charge the same prices as a processor that walks all over it. They only have themselves to blame for the mess they're in.
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