AMD arming new tahiti to fight 660ti. welcome hd 7890!!!

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#1 Posted by ionusX (25716 posts) -

amd is arming a new tahiti gpu. the hd 7890 as we can call it for now is going to be ahead of the 7870 but behinbd the 7950. currently according to source its going to be in the 7800 family and is based on the tahiti LE architecture.

details are atm murky at best but amd expects to have it ready before the end of november

http://ht4u.net/news/26462_amd_bringt_tahiti_le_im_november_-_neues_radeon-hd-7800-modell/

#2 Posted by BeerMage (267 posts) -

But they already have a GPU that spanks the gtx 660 ti at it's price point. It's called Radeon HD 7950.

#3 Posted by free_milk (4368 posts) -

But they already have a GPU that spanks the gtx 660 ti at it's price point. It's called Radeon HD 7950.

BeerMage
The 7870 is very close to the GTX 660 ti.
#4 Posted by Guovssohas (330 posts) -
That's good i guess. But is it really needed? I mean the 7870 is already at spitting distance from the 660ti.
#5 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6061 posts) -

the 7870 is +/- 1% of the 660ti performance. Last I checked, it was 1% faster at 1080p res in all games.

#6 Posted by hartsickdiscipl (14787 posts) -

Not really sure why they need this card. There isn't a heck of a lot of room to stick another card in between the 7870 and 7950.

#7 Posted by ronvalencia (15130 posts) -

Not really sure why they need this card. There isn't a heck of a lot of room to stick another card in between the 7870 and 7950.

hartsickdiscipl

To maximise yields, failed 7950 would be repositioned as 7890 or AMD releases the consumer version of FireGL W8000 i.e. 79x0 level GPU with 256bit wide bus (cheaper PCB).

#8 Posted by Guppy507 (17396 posts) -
[QUOTE="BeerMage"]

But they already have a GPU that spanks the gtx 660 ti at it's price point. It's called Radeon HD 7950.

free_milk
The 7870 is very close to the GTX 660 ti.

No, you're thinking of the GTX 660. The ti is a step up.
#9 Posted by jhcho2 (4427 posts) -

That card is not needed at all. AMD should instead focus on a gpu which is better than the 7970, like say....a 7980, which could beat the GTX 680 is every area.

#10 Posted by ionusX (25716 posts) -

what their doing is forcing nvidia up a market segment.

ever since the 8800 series walloped amd senseless they have had to claw back from the bottom. when they did so they preformed a fortification system.

they would focus their efforts on strengthening their lowest end and then move up. the APU is one such fortification. nvidia rather than compete directly with or udnercutting the amd products has simply moved up because their revenue is at the higher end anyway. amd has then been moving up market segments

in the 5000 series it was the 5770 that got the attention, with the 6000 series it was te 6850 getting reinforced with the 6790 and the apu. with the 7 series they have a fresh line of lower fortifications from trinity and the hd 7800 series is where the attention is being given. and nvidia rather than undercut or directluy compete has simply gone up a price segment.

nvidia's financial results reflect this alot actually with their revenue up 15% and their profits down from last year. they are judging revenue as the measure of success

i expect next gen nvidia will have a killer high end gpu forged of mithril, a #70 series card thats compareable to AMD's high end and then the gtx #60 series will be given little attention and will get crushed by amd's competitive thrust upwards.

this trend will continue until AMD has effectively tossed nvidia into a price tag that nobody wants to buy cards for at the high end. which puts them in a very bad spot financially.

amd tried doing this to intel back in intels 1st pentium IV run before the move the lga 775. and if left unchecked this innovative dilema will send nvidia without a paddle down sh!ts creek

#11 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6061 posts) -

That card is not needed at all. AMD should instead focus on a gpu which is better than the 7970, like say....a 7980, which could beat the GTX 680 is every area.

jhcho2

no point, the 7970 ghz already beats the 680 in every area.

#12 Posted by ronvalencia (15130 posts) -

That card is not needed at all. AMD should instead focus on a gpu which is better than the 7970, like say....a 7980, which could beat the GTX 680 is every area.

jhcho2

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#13 Posted by jhcho2 (4427 posts) -

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

#14 Posted by blaznwiipspman1 (6061 posts) -

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

jhcho2

the ghz edition isn't overclocked, that is the factory setting its set to. The geforce 680 is also at 1 ghz clock speed. The 7970 is simply faster clock for clock than the 680gtx. Toms hardware already rates 7970 ghz as the best single video card on the market. Why do you think the 680 has dropped in price recently? Because the 7970 is faster and cheaper. Whats your point on the resolution exactly? It just means that its more future proof.

#15 Posted by jhcho2 (4427 posts) -

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

blaznwiipspman1

the ghz edition isn't overclocked, that is the factory setting its set to. The geforce 680 is also at 1 ghz clock speed. The 7970 is simply faster clock for clock than the 680gtx. Toms hardware already rates 7970 ghz as the best single video card on the market. Why do you think the 680 has dropped in price recently? Because the 7970 is faster and cheaper. Whats your point on the resolution exactly? It just means that its more future proof.

Future proof? I dunno about you, but i have no intention on sticking to one card for more than four years. That's like light years in pc hardware terms

#17 Posted by ronvalencia (15130 posts) -

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

jhcho2
Like any CPU vendor, the GPU design vendor sets the clock speed. 7970 GE follows 7870 GE and 7770 GE i.e. GE = "Ghz Edition" SKU.
#18 Posted by ronvalencia (15130 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

jhcho2

the ghz edition isn't overclocked, that is the factory setting its set to. The geforce 680 is also at 1 ghz clock speed. The 7970 is simply faster clock for clock than the 680gtx. Toms hardware already rates 7970 ghz as the best single video card on the market. Why do you think the 680 has dropped in price recently? Because the 7970 is faster and cheaper. Whats your point on the resolution exactly? It just means that its more future proof.

Future proof? I dunno about you, but i have no intention on sticking to one card for more than four years. That's like light years in pc hardware terms

With the PC, it's your choice.
#19 Posted by ionusX (25716 posts) -

[QUOTE="blaznwiipspman1"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

why is everyone only quoting techpowerup? is it because it favours AMD? Where are the guru3D and Anandtech results? And good job showing comparisons between OC'ed 7970s against standard 680s and then again at 2560x1600 which clearly favours AMD cards due to their cards having more memory

jhcho2

the ghz edition isn't overclocked, that is the factory setting its set to. The geforce 680 is also at 1 ghz clock speed. The 7970 is simply faster clock for clock than the 680gtx. Toms hardware already rates 7970 ghz as the best single video card on the market. Why do you think the 680 has dropped in price recently? Because the 7970 is faster and cheaper. Whats your point on the resolution exactly? It just means that its more future proof.

Future proof? I dunno about you, but i have no intention on sticking to one card for more than four years. That's like light years in pc hardware terms

stop talking to ron.. here is a conversation with ron ft. a joke (artisits interpretation)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc8s3LPehWM

#20 Posted by ronvalencia (15130 posts) -

amd is arming a new tahiti gpu. the hd 7890 as we can call it for now is going to be ahead of the 7870 but behinbd the 7950. currently according to source its going to be in the 7800 family and is based on the tahiti LE architecture.

details are atm murky at best but amd expects to have it ready before the end of november

http://ht4u.net/news/26462_amd_bringt_tahiti_le_im_november_-_neues_radeon-hd-7800-modell/

ionusX

From http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/1

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#21 Posted by Guovssohas (330 posts) -
Wow the 660ti is incredibly overpriced, at this moment it's just a waste of a card.
#22 Posted by Xtasy26 (4254 posts) -

Wow the 660ti is incredibly overpriced, at this moment it's just a waste of a card.Guovssohas

That's an understatement.

#24 Posted by Souvs (6 posts) -
with 12.11beta ,7900 series beats Kepler counterpart ----http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pagesprinter/his_7970_iceq_xsup2_ghz_edition_7950_iceq_xsup2_bo ost_clock,1.html frostbite 2 crown also goes to 7900 series-- ---http://www.techspot.com/review/591-medal-of-honor-warfighter-benchmarks/ (7890 will outperform 660ti and 7950 boost is comparable to gtx 670...and due to huge oc potential of gcn and lower price tag,7950 boost gives gtx 680 run for the money right out of the box as kepler has locked voltages and very low oc potential...even ref 7950 goes to 1200 core....emotianally invested people should research it before buying blindly....