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#1 Lonelystrokez
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Will any blu-ray player play 4k?I just need the software for it to work right?I been thinking about buying an internal blu-ray player for my pc but want to make sure it can do 4k.

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#2 C_Rule
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I do not believe there are any 4K Blu-Ray players or discs currently on the market.

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#3  Edited By KHAndAnime
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4k Blu-ray content has yet to be standardized AFAIK, I don't think it really exists yet...

Best I've found are 1080P transfers of 4k content.

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#4  Edited By ferrari2001
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If you can actually find a 4k blu-ray which don't exist outside demo testing. The blu-ray association responsible for standardizing formats though has basically said the 4k blu-rays upon release will require a new player. Looks like they are trying to increase the layers on blu-ray discs to hold 33gb/layer in order to store the 4k images. If you buy a player now it's highly unlikely it will work with the eventual release to 4k physical media.

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4k bluray will use quad layer discs aka BDXL, as long as your drive supports that format you should fine

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I think they'll have to improve the storage capacity of blurays to be able to give 4k videos proper room for the videos or they'll end up over compressing the videos and end up with awful netflix quality videos.

I've not used h265 yet but it may give enough compression/quality to fit on a 50gb bluray but even being 20% better compression or so over h264, I don't think h265 will be able to give clean and flawless artifact free compression to 4k videos till we get some media that is beyond the 50gb currently on blurays.

It seems weird they came out with 4k tvs so soon and have been shoving this tech in peoples face, but they don't have a proper media format to fit proper 4k videos yet.

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@Old_Gooseberry said:

I think they'll have to improve the storage capacity of blurays to be able to give 4k videos proper room for the videos or they'll end up over compressing the videos and end up with awful netflix quality videos.

I've not used h265 yet but it may give enough compression/quality to fit on a 50gb bluray but even being 20% better compression or so over h264, I don't think h265 will be able to give clean and flawless artifact free compression to 4k videos till we get some media that is beyond the 50gb currently on blurays.

It seems weird they came out with 4k tvs so soon and have been shoving this tech in peoples face, but they don't have a proper media format to fit proper 4k videos yet.

Well it's easy enough for them to push resolutions in panels, just not as easy to power them in games or provide native media content for them. I'm not that surprised that television companies are trying to cash in on something that's not even that big of a deal for the normal consumer.

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#10 Kh1ndjal
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@KHAndAnime said:

@Old_Gooseberry said:

I think they'll have to improve the storage capacity of blurays to be able to give 4k videos proper room for the videos or they'll end up over compressing the videos and end up with awful netflix quality videos.

I've not used h265 yet but it may give enough compression/quality to fit on a 50gb bluray but even being 20% better compression or so over h264, I don't think h265 will be able to give clean and flawless artifact free compression to 4k videos till we get some media that is beyond the 50gb currently on blurays.

It seems weird they came out with 4k tvs so soon and have been shoving this tech in peoples face, but they don't have a proper media format to fit proper 4k videos yet.

Well it's easy enough for them to push resolutions in panels, just not as easy to power them in games or provide native media content for them. I'm not that surprised that television companies are trying to cash in on something that's not even that big of a deal for the normal consumer.

h.265 is about 4 times as efficient as h.264, in terms of file size while keeping the same resolution (and perceived quality), which is insane. that means a 40 GB video encoded in h.264 will be about 10GB when encoded in h.265, in the same resolution and almost identical quality.

with a bit of googling you can find sample videos showing the difference, and i believe the latest VLC is able to play h.265 (i know MKplayer can as i used that).

believe me, filesize is not a problem for 4k videos.

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@Kh1ndjal said:

@KHAndAnime said:

@Old_Gooseberry said:

I think they'll have to improve the storage capacity of blurays to be able to give 4k videos proper room for the videos or they'll end up over compressing the videos and end up with awful netflix quality videos.

I've not used h265 yet but it may give enough compression/quality to fit on a 50gb bluray but even being 20% better compression or so over h264, I don't think h265 will be able to give clean and flawless artifact free compression to 4k videos till we get some media that is beyond the 50gb currently on blurays.

It seems weird they came out with 4k tvs so soon and have been shoving this tech in peoples face, but they don't have a proper media format to fit proper 4k videos yet.

Well it's easy enough for them to push resolutions in panels, just not as easy to power them in games or provide native media content for them. I'm not that surprised that television companies are trying to cash in on something that's not even that big of a deal for the normal consumer.

h.265 is about 4 times as efficient as h.264, in terms of file size while keeping the same resolution (and perceived quality), which is insane. that means a 40 GB video encoded in h.264 will be about 10GB when encoded in h.265, in the same resolution and almost identical quality.

with a bit of googling you can find sample videos showing the difference, and i believe the latest VLC is able to play h.265 (i know MKplayer can as i used that).

believe me, filesize is not a problem for 4k videos.

It's around twice as efficient, not 4x.

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#12  Edited By KHAndAnime
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@Kh1ndjal said:

h.265 is about 4 times as efficient as h.264, in terms of file size while keeping the same resolution (and perceived quality), which is insane. that means a 40 GB video encoded in h.264 will be about 10GB when encoded in h.265, in the same resolution and almost identical quality.

with a bit of googling you can find sample videos showing the difference, and i believe the latest VLC is able to play h.265 (i know MKplayer can as i used that).

believe me, filesize is not a problem for 4k videos.

Never said file-size was a problem :p I'm sure with some future disk, 4k Blu-Ray content will be easy. But that's not my point.

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#13 Kh1ndjal
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@JigglyWiggly_ said:

@Kh1ndjal said:

@KHAndAnime said:

@Old_Gooseberry said:

I think they'll have to improve the storage capacity of blurays to be able to give 4k videos proper room for the videos or they'll end up over compressing the videos and end up with awful netflix quality videos.

I've not used h265 yet but it may give enough compression/quality to fit on a 50gb bluray but even being 20% better compression or so over h264, I don't think h265 will be able to give clean and flawless artifact free compression to 4k videos till we get some media that is beyond the 50gb currently on blurays.

It seems weird they came out with 4k tvs so soon and have been shoving this tech in peoples face, but they don't have a proper media format to fit proper 4k videos yet.

Well it's easy enough for them to push resolutions in panels, just not as easy to power them in games or provide native media content for them. I'm not that surprised that television companies are trying to cash in on something that's not even that big of a deal for the normal consumer.

h.265 is about 4 times as efficient as h.264, in terms of file size while keeping the same resolution (and perceived quality), which is insane. that means a 40 GB video encoded in h.264 will be about 10GB when encoded in h.265, in the same resolution and almost identical quality.

with a bit of googling you can find sample videos showing the difference, and i believe the latest VLC is able to play h.265 (i know MKplayer can as i used that).

believe me, filesize is not a problem for 4k videos.

It's around twice as efficient, not 4x.

it appears you're right. i could have sworn it was 4x.

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#14 Jr14
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I think you can download movies or stream movies in 4k if that's what your wanting to do.

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#15 hatecalledlove
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The first 4k blu ray players aren't expected to hit the market till Fall of this year. Some where shown at CES.

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#16 AmberBeda
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Technically, there is no 4K Blu-ray on the market now so it's hard to say or test whether a 4K Blu-ray player exist. I do search some information through the internet and found reports about Panasonic 4K Blu-ray player 2015 CES. But it is until the end of 2015 when 4K Blu-ray released that we can make sure that it worked.