Will my LGA1150 cpu socket mobo be compatible with those Skylake cpu's coming out? Don't really want to have to buy a new cpu and mobo if I don't have too.
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Skylake processors will require a new socket. LGA 1151, If you have a i5 4670 or i7 4770 or newer no point in upgrading
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Skylake processors will require a new socket. LGA 1151, If you have a i5 4670 or i7 4770 or newer no point in upgrading
why no point in upgrading?
DX12 is meant to reduce the load on CPU's for gamers, so unless you will take advantage of the extra power (video/photography or rendering), you're unlikely to benefit.
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Skylake processors will require a new socket. LGA 1151, If you have a i5 4670 or i7 4770 or newer no point in upgrading
why no point in upgrading?
DX12 is meant to reduce the load on CPU's for gamers, so unless you will take advantage of the extra power (video/photography or rendering), you're unlikely to benefit.
Not to mention that early reports saying the usual (after AMD fail to compete in HEDT) around 10% performance jump... What's the point of giving hundreads of $$ for 10%?
The real performance jump will come for people that don't want to buy a GPU till Pascal / Arctic islands, where Skylake will offer i5s with GPUs that will perform 50% faster than current Broadwell (not Haswell), which leads to 750ti (yes you didn't misread) levels.
So new CPUs will have an onboard GPU that it will be capable of playing a lot of games at 1080p60fps and some of the old (lol old) even Crysis 3 with medium settings...
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Skylake processors will require a new socket. LGA 1151, If you have a i5 4670 or i7 4770 or newer no point in upgrading
why no point in upgrading?
DX12 is meant to reduce the load on CPU's for gamers, so unless you will take advantage of the extra power (video/photography or rendering), you're unlikely to benefit.
Not to mention that early reports saying the usual (after AMD fail to compete in HEDT) around 10% performance jump... What's the point of giving hundreads of $$ for 10%?
The real performance jump will come for people that don't want to buy a GPU till Pascal / Arctic islands, where Skylake will offer i5s with GPUs that will perform 50% faster than current Broadwell (not Haswell), which leads to 750ti (yes you didn't misread) levels.
So new CPUs will have an onboard GPU that it will be capable of playing a lot of games at 1080p60fps and some of the old (lol old) even Crysis 3 with medium settings...
750Ti levels og GPU power on that iGPU? If only it was possible to use the iGPU for calculating physics in games... It's better suited for it than the CPU part.
750Ti levels og GPU power on that iGPU? If only it was possible to use the iGPU for calculating physics in games... It's better suited for it than the CPU part.
I wonder if DX12 is capable of doing it.
Quite possible, but the devs have to code for it I believe.
It's almost as the biggest reason to upgrade is not the CPU itself, it would be DDR4 RAM and what the new chipset might support that your current one does not.
Uhhh what benefits does DDR4 give for gaming? I mean Linus had a very comprehensive video on ddr3 vs ddr4 in performance and found literally no difference for gaming..
It's almost as the biggest reason to upgrade is not the CPU itself, it would be DDR4 RAM and what the new chipset might support that your current one does not.
Uhhh what benefits does DDR4 give for gaming? I mean Linus had a very comprehensive video on ddr3 vs ddr4 in performance and found literally no difference for gaming..
Next to nothing I assume unless you are running out of VRAM I guess. Lower power usage though.
It's almost as the biggest reason to upgrade is not the CPU itself, it would be DDR4 RAM and what the new chipset might support that your current one does not.
Uhhh what benefits does DDR4 give for gaming? I mean Linus had a very comprehensive video on ddr3 vs ddr4 in performance and found literally no difference for gaming..
DDR4 adds bandwidth over DDR3, if you were running 3-4 gpu's in multiple gpu setup that extra bandwidth gives a noticeable increase in performance over DDR3.Since the need for more data to be moved from ram to gpus.
But for the 98% of people out there DDR4 isnt useful right now.
It's almost as the biggest reason to upgrade is not the CPU itself, it would be DDR4 RAM and what the new chipset might support that your current one does not.
Uhhh what benefits does DDR4 give for gaming? I mean Linus had a very comprehensive video on ddr3 vs ddr4 in performance and found literally no difference for gaming..
DDR4 adds bandwidth over DDR3, if you were running 3-4 gpu's in multiple gpu setup that extra bandwidth gives a noticeable increase in performance over DDR3.Since the need for more data to be moved from ram to gpus.
But for the 98% of people out there DDR4 isnt useful right now.
I am sure if you are running 3-4 gpu's in SLI/CF you wouldn't go with non HEDT (LGA 2011-3) setup for many reasons.
So for the current generation DDR3 is enough since on many dual systems it can even reach 32GB/s (like in my system). And LGA1150 without PLX chip is limited to PCIE 3.0 x16 16GB/s which is the same as the dual 1600MHz DDR3 of sandybridge.
So no point adding faster RAM when you are limited by PCIE which is at the moment the only way a GPU connects with the rest of the system.
Probably things will change when Pascal arrives.
Pascal will introduce NVLink, which will allow an Nvidia GPU to direct communicate with the CPU (or any other GPU) with speeds 5-12 faster than PCIE3.0. Which means faster than PCIE4.0 and PCIE5.0 too. :P
Now I don't know how in the hell, they will manage to connect the GPU directly to CPU but this is something I would like to see....
@Coseniath: it is nvidia so it is probably an expensive and exclusive feature to them and most likely onky used in workstations.
Yeah that last part with "workstations" is probably true, since I read about 8-SLI enable. :P
But I am curious, how are they going to use an NVLink since they are not making mobo chips, Perhaps partnership with Intel?
@Coseniath: it is nvidia so it is probably an expensive and exclusive feature to them and most likely onky used in workstations.
Yeah that last part with "workstations" is probably true, since I read about 8-SLI enable. :P
But I am curious, how are they going to use an NVLink since they are not making mobo chips, Perhaps partnership with Intel?
This could be one thing they have on paper only. Have the tech on their GPU for it, but not on the mobo/CPU part. I'm really curious about the details here as well.
Will the skylake cpu's have any 6 or 8 cores? Was watching a video on YouTube by LinusTechTips and he benchmarked using 4 core non threaded, 4 core threaded, 6 core threaded, and 8 core threaded. The 6 and 8 cores hyperthreaded seen an increase average fps, increased minimum fps, and a lot less stutter. If they don't then I'm looking at either the i7 5960X 8core 3.3-3.5ghz $1000-yikes, or the i7 5820K 6core 3.4-3.6ghz $500.
Will the skylake cpu's have any 6 or 8 cores? Was watching a video on YouTube by LinusTechTips and he benchmarked using 4 core non threaded, 4 core threaded, 6 core threaded, and 8 core threaded. The 6 and 8 cores hyperthreaded seen an increase average fps, increased minimum fps, and a lot less stutter. If they don't then I'm looking at either the i7 5960X 8core 3.3-3.5ghz $1000-yikes, or the i7 5820K 6core 3.4-3.6ghz $500.
Micro Center sells the 5820k for $300 but its in store pickup only.
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