Your opinion of strip clubs?

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#1 Posted by the_plan_man (1555 posts) -

What do you think about local strip clubs? Do they have a place in the community, and do you support the laws mandating they be a certain distance from a school/church, ect.? I think they stimulate the economy and while they might not be the ideal career for women, they find a way to support themselves. What is your opinion?

#2 Posted by magicalclick (22565 posts) -

Stay away from schools. Otherwise, fine by me.

#3 Posted by Master_Live (14430 posts) -

Yeah, they have a place in the community. :D

#4 Posted by EPICCOMMANDER (461 posts) -

No they should be done away with. Go to bars or watch TV, don't go to strip clubs.

#5 Posted by SaintLeonidas (26170 posts) -

Boring.

#6 Posted by Storm_Marine (10863 posts) -
#7 Posted by -ParaNormaN- (795 posts) -

Boring.

I'd rather watch porn. I've been to a strip club before, it's a waste of money. The girls don't really interact with you unless you got the money anyway.

#8 Posted by EJ902 (14287 posts) -

Don't have a problem with them, as long as it's a clean and legal operation and everyone working there is doing it of their free will and well looked after.

That being said they're really not that fun so I don't see why people go to them.

#9 Posted by TheWalkingGhost (5244 posts) -

Filthy. Don't care beyond that.

#10 Posted by Master_Live (14430 posts) -
#11 Posted by ad1x2 (5565 posts) -

@Storm_Marine said:

@SaintLeonidas said:

Boring.

True. We should talk about legalizing prostitution instead.

Well, prostitution isn't against any federal laws (unless you count the UCMJ, which only applies to servicemembers), it just happens to be illegal in 49 states. If people want to hire hookers they should encourage their state lawmakers to follow Nevada's example.

#12 Edited by XilePrincess (13129 posts) -

Why should they be kept away from schools or churches? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Children and underage highschool students can't even go in. It's not like there's strippers standing outside stripping.

There was a strip club I used to pass regularly as a child when out with my mom, the sign said it was a nightclub and I thought absolutely nothing of it. I didn't even realize it was actually a strip club until someone told me it was.

As for churches, why? Because the laws and morals of one religion should apply to everyone? Adults can choose not to go to strip clubs if it's against their religious or moral beliefs. I drive past a Denny's every day and don't go in because I know I'll find nothing but filth inside. Just because you can see it doesn't mean you have to patronize the establishment.


Regardless, I have no problem with strip clubs so long as everyone working there is of age and working there of their own free will.

#13 Posted by deeliman (2423 posts) -

As long as there is demand for it, there is a place for it in the community. I agree that it shouldn't be too close to a school. Don't really give a fuck whether or not it's close to a church though.

#14 Posted by ferrari2001 (16877 posts) -

yuck.

#15 Posted by deeliman (2423 posts) -
#16 Edited by jcknapier711 (380 posts) -

They should be banned. They have no place in civilized society. Only gutter trash would ever consider going there.

#17 Posted by -ParaNormaN- (795 posts) -

Why should they be kept away from schools or churches? That is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Children and underage highschool students can't even go in. It's not like there's strippers standing outside stripping.

There was a strip club I used to pass regularly as a child when out with my mom, the sign said it was a nightclub and I thought absolutely nothing of it. I didn't even realize it was actually a strip club until someone told me it was.

As for churches, why? Because the laws and morals of one religion should apply to everyone? Adults can choose not to go to strip clubs if it's against their religious or moral beliefs. I drive past a Denny's every day and don't go in because I know I'll find nothing but filth inside. Just because you can see it doesn't mean you have to patronize the establishment.

Regardless, I have no problem with strip clubs so long as everyone working there is of age and working there of their own free will.

Away from schools because it's an "Adult" operation. Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them. They should also stay away from churches for their own benefit. It's only going to lead to trouble because most if not all religions are against fornication. It also makes the churches and school area higher in quality. Strip clubs are looked down upon by the majority of the population so, it's only obvious that they should stay away from these kind of areas. That is why strip clubs are often found in cities or far from residential areas. No one wants to live next to a strip club.

#18 Posted by XilePrincess (13129 posts) -

Away from schools because it's an "Adult" operation. Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them. They should also stay away from churches for their own benefit. It's only going to lead to trouble because most if not all religions are against fornication. It also makes the churches and school area higher in quality. Strip clubs are looked down upon by the majority of the population so, it's only obvious that they should stay away from these kind of areas. That is why strip clubs are often found in cities or far from residential areas. No one wants to live next to a strip club.

So are liquor stores, smoke shops, bars, actual nightclubs, pole dancing studios (the exercise kind), sex shops, and a number of 'massage' parlors. But those are all over the place, nestled in between coffee shops and boutiques.

If grown men wanted to leer at teenage girls, having their strip club of choice be far away from a school probably isn't going to stop them. Some days I look about 16, and strange men make comments to me in parking lots and while I'm working. Simply being away from a strip joint doesn't mean men are any less piggy if that's who they are to begin with.

How is it going to 'lead to trouble' to have a strip club near a church because they're 'against fornication'? It's not as if the church lets out and everyone rushes over there, and then the church is going to have to have a big talk with all their members about how they're not allowed to go to the strip club and it's becoming an issue.

While yes, I agree it could bring property values down, the same can be said for having a funeral home on the same block. You must live in a city that has a high suburban population, because outside of suburbia, schools are situated in the middle of town for the kids who live nearby. There are lots of apartments and condos in almost any city center. People DO live nearby, not all schools are in suburban areas.

A new highrise of condos just went in across the street from the strip club in my city last year, and they're selling for 250k for a 1 bedroom, and people are buying them. It's not even in one of the nicer areas of town, either. And again, there are no strippers outside. If you're not out in the streets late at night you'd probably never even know it was there.


The entire point is, you buy or lease a location for YOUR business where you think it's best suited. It's none of your concern as a business owner what other businesses or establishments think or want. You're setting up your business in the best location to get maximum patronage, not setting up your business away from everyone who may not like it. You'd go bankrupt.


Besides all of that, churches and schools are like Starbucks, especially in a high-population and/or very diverse city. You can throw a rock from anywhere and hit one. Kind of hard to build anything anywhere when things you're 'supposed' to stay away from are everywhere.

#19 Posted by LostProphetFLCL (17287 posts) -

Nothing against them albeit I have no interest in going to them.

Live and let be type deal here.

#20 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -

@ad1x2 said:

If people want to hire hookers they should encourage their state lawmakers to follow Nevada's example.

Nevada's example?

#21 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -

Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them.

lol, so you're saying this will lead to men attacking teenage girls?

#22 Edited by jun_aka_pekto (15990 posts) -

I've been to a few midwestern strip joints (OK and IL) when I was still single. Those corn-fed boobies looked more like college students to me.

I don't really care where their locations are within a town or city.

#23 Posted by XaosII (16575 posts) -

The entire point is, you buy or lease a location for YOUR business where you think it's best suited. It's none of your concern as a business owner what other businesses or establishments think or want. You're setting up your business in the best location to get maximum patronage, not setting up your business away from everyone who may not like it. You'd go bankrupt.

You would think so, but this is pretty far from reality, regardless of the type of business. Individual towns can have fairly complex zoning and permit laws and towns reserve the ability to grant and deny these permits based on, well, fairly arbitrary reasons.

I had helped a friend of mine set up a bakery in the town that he lived in. A small town. I could not secure approval from the town for the first location we settled on that was on Main Street of the town. We were told that the town is concerned about the amount of traffic in that road already and a daily goods business using trucks would slow down traffic further, unless the location had a dedicated loading parking. It would've likely required months to get something like that in order. In the end, my friend found a place off Main Street that used to be a liquor store. It had to be refitted with a kitchen which added around an extra $20,000 in costs.

It is, sadly, entirely up the town whether they will allow such an establishment. You are always "free" to set up your business somewhere else.

#24 Edited by ad1x2 (5565 posts) -

@PSP107 said:

@ad1x2 said:

If people want to hire hookers they should encourage their state lawmakers to follow Nevada's example.

Nevada's example?

Prostitution is legal in some counties there.

#25 Posted by Venom951 (365 posts) -

Strip Clubs are cool to go to once or so but then its just a waste of money .

#26 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -

@ad1x2 said:

@PSP107 said:

@ad1x2 said:

If people want to hire hookers they should encourage their state lawmakers to follow Nevada's example.

Nevada's example?

Prostitution is legal in some counties there.

Yea but in your own words, why is it legal there?

#27 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (795 posts) -

@XilePrincess said:

@-paranorman- said:

Away from schools because it's an "Adult" operation. Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them. They should also stay away from churches for their own benefit. It's only going to lead to trouble because most if not all religions are against fornication. It also makes the churches and school area higher in quality. Strip clubs are looked down upon by the majority of the population so, it's only obvious that they should stay away from these kind of areas. That is why strip clubs are often found in cities or far from residential areas. No one wants to live next to a strip club.

So are liquor stores, smoke shops, bars, actual nightclubs, pole dancing studios (the exercise kind), sex shops, and a number of 'massage' parlors. But those are all over the place, nestled in between coffee shops and boutiques.

If grown men wanted to leer at teenage girls, having their strip club of choice be far away from a school probably isn't going to stop them. Some days I look about 16, and strange men make comments to me in parking lots and while I'm working. Simply being away from a strip joint doesn't mean men are any less piggy if that's who they are to begin with.

How is it going to 'lead to trouble' to have a strip club near a church because they're 'against fornication'? It's not as if the church lets out and everyone rushes over there, and then the church is going to have to have a big talk with all their members about how they're not allowed to go to the strip club and it's becoming an issue.

While yes, I agree it could bring property values down, the same can be said for having a funeral home on the same block. You must live in a city that has a high suburban population, because outside of suburbia, schools are situated in the middle of town for the kids who live nearby. There are lots of apartments and condos in almost any city center. People DO live nearby, not all schools are in suburban areas.

A new highrise of condos just went in across the street from the strip club in my city last year, and they're selling for 250k for a 1 bedroom, and people are buying them. It's not even in one of the nicer areas of town, either. And again, there are no strippers outside. If you're not out in the streets late at night you'd probably never even know it was there.

The entire point is, you buy or lease a location for YOUR business where you think it's best suited. It's none of your concern as a business owner what other businesses or establishments think or want. You're setting up your business in the best location to get maximum patronage, not setting up your business away from everyone who may not like it. You'd go bankrupt.

Besides all of that, churches and schools are like Starbucks, especially in a high-population and/or very diverse city. You can throw a rock from anywhere and hit one. Kind of hard to build anything anywhere when things you're 'supposed' to stay away from are everywhere.

Being away from a strip joint may not make anyone less piggy but when teenage kids have to walk by it everyday, they are walking by a place where men specifically go to so they get a "load" off. Would you like walking by a bunch of horn dogs on a daily basis? Eventually the kids will start to feel unsafe and it would eventually become a problem. The school would most likely report what is going down and require police around the area every school day which could bring down business by a lot anyway.

As for the churches, assuming that they will not act against a strip club being around them is foolish. Religious people are probably the most persistent people we have in any country and will do everything they can to win. They would either protest, send a large sum of angry letters to the mayor or whoever has the power to shut the place down or may even take things into their own hands and ruin the property themselves by breaking the windows, doors, etc. Especially if the church has a large number of followers, they're no joke.

If the strip club was a late night only type of club, then it wouldn't be as much of a problem for students. If it is open during the day though, I definitely see it as a threat to students. Don't forget a lot of teens and young adults also go to church. How many times have you heard horny guys talking about how they want "a virgin from church". Not saying they will act on it, but it doesn't help giving them the ammo to go up to them and try to hit on them, especially after seeing a bunch of naked women just a second ago.

@PSP107 said:

@-paranorman- said:

Not only that, men who go there are probably horny as hell and that shit should be away from kids, especially teenagers. Grown men still look at teenage girls as if they were still in high school themselves and still hit on them.

lol, so you're saying this will lead to men attacking teenage girls?

It is possible, yup but what I'm trying to say is that they will be pervy as fuck to the girls. If you had a kid, would you like her walking by a bunch of perverted guys everyday? Excuse me, horny older men everyday.

#28 Edited by Nengo_Flow (9669 posts) -

I find strip clubs and strippers useless. Whats their purpose if you cant **** them?

#29 Posted by xdude85 (4394 posts) -

Strip clubs suck, they're a waste of money and the women are ugly.

#30 Edited by EPICCOMMANDER (461 posts) -

@Nengo_Flow: lol

@ad1x2: Nevada is like 99% desert, and then Vegas. It's pretty easy why prostitution is legal in certain areas in that state.

#31 Posted by Gaming-Planet (14021 posts) -

Hmm... seems like a waste of money.

Maybe if I'm drunk I'd enjoy it.

#32 Posted by k41m (726 posts) -

Nothing wrong with them, put them anywhere and everywhere. Prostitution should also be legal.

Strip Clubs are nice if you want to get out of the house and away from the wife and get a quick blowjob.

#33 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -

I find strip clubs and strippers useless. Whats their purpose if you cant **** them?

But you watch porn?

#34 Posted by indzman (17601 posts) -

mmm strippers mmm

#35 Posted by bowchicka07 (1073 posts) -

gaming center/strip club go...

#36 Posted by playmynutz (5982 posts) -

Same as abortion, have it only if you choose

#37 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -
#38 Posted by lamprey263 (23548 posts) -

fine if you can afford it

#39 Posted by XilePrincess (13129 posts) -

@XaosII said:

You would think so, but this is pretty far from reality, regardless of the type of business. Individual towns can have fairly complex zoning and permit laws and towns reserve the ability to grant and deny these permits based on, well, fairly arbitrary reasons.

I had helped a friend of mine set up a bakery in the town that he lived in. A small town. I could not secure approval from the town for the first location we settled on that was on Main Street of the town. We were told that the town is concerned about the amount of traffic in that road already and a daily goods business using trucks would slow down traffic further, unless the location had a dedicated loading parking. It would've likely required months to get something like that in order. In the end, my friend found a place off Main Street that used to be a liquor store. It had to be refitted with a kitchen which added around an extra $20,000 in costs.

It is, sadly, entirely up the town whether they will allow such an establishment. You are always "free" to set up your business somewhere else.


If it never gets past zoning, then the issue of consciously deciding whether to stay away from churches or schools is a moot point. The basis of the discussion is assuming that one CAN open or operate a strip club at a location that is near these things. CAN comes before SHOULD, if there is no can there is no moral discussion for should.

Then, though, you must consider, what is to happen when you build a strip club, it passes the zoning laws and is put in, and later on a school or church is built or opened nearby? Should the strip club move? I don't think so. Should the school or church move? I don't think so either.

#40 Posted by gamerguru100 (10585 posts) -

You're basically throwing money away just so you can look at girls who behave like robots. You can't even touch, so that makes it more of a waste. Just go watch free porn.

#41 Posted by -Renegade (8340 posts) -

I find strip clubs and strippers useless. Whats their purpose if you cant **** them?

some people do

#42 Posted by magicalclick (22565 posts) -

@XilePrincess:

I don't worry about children getting in. I worry about children passing by while the customer coming out because I don't know what they would do to the kids when they are drunk and horny.

#43 Posted by Iszdope (9884 posts) -

Fine, that's fine.

#44 Posted by PSP107 (11894 posts) -

@xdude85 said:

Strip clubs suck, they're a waste of money and the women are ugly.

I take it you visit often?

fine if you can afford it

What's the going rate these days?

#45 Posted by Master_Live (14430 posts) -

I find strip clubs and strippers useless. Whats their purpose if you cant **** them?

Sure you can.

#46 Posted by thereal25 (408 posts) -

Not really my cup of tea but if there's a market for it...

#47 Posted by Large_Soda (8610 posts) -

Nothing against them albeit I have no interest in going to them.

Live and let be type deal here.

Hey! This is the Internet! Stop it with the level headed analysis and common sense opinions.

#48 Edited by bforrester420 (1457 posts) -

I don't know why strip clubs, in particular, should be certain distances from schools and churches. If you want to make the argument that all establishments selling alcohol should be a certain distance from schools, with which I agree, then I'm on board. Nothing goes on outside of a strip club that doesn't happen outside of any other business that serves alcohol, regardless of what is happening inside.

A requirement being a certain distance from a church is silly. Just because a church's congregation doesn't like something doesn't mean that something should not be near a church. I don't like churches, but I have no right, nor legal recourse, to keep churches away from my home (for example).

I personally don't care to patronize strip clubs. Why pay a bunch of skanky women to pretend they like you when there are terabytes of free porn on the internet?

#49 Edited by toast_burner (21522 posts) -

Don't like strip clubs? Don't go to one.

#50 Posted by comp_atkins (31342 posts) -

@Venom951 said:

Strip Clubs are cool to go to once or so but then its just a waste of money .

pretty much this