Would you vote for an atheist? (Now with POLL)

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#251 Posted by mgreener_34 (5181 posts) -
Church and state man, thats all thier realy is to say :? Religion should be kept out of office, because all it does is split people apart. I would vote for a athiest just as i would a jew/chistian/ muslim...but i would rather have a athiest because they wouldnt have any morrals to live by, and might have differnt thoughts on differnt things.
#252 Posted by Solid_Snake325 (6091 posts) -
I didn't mean to argue about atheism and Christianity, I'm just saying I would've vote for an atheist, I respect your beliefs. I'm tired, got a test tomorrow, goodnight folks.
#253 Posted by -Cranium (4376 posts) -
A candidates religous preference has nothing to do with his political preference, so no.
#254 Posted by Solid_Snake325 (6091 posts) -
*wouldn't vote for an atheist
#255 Posted by Aznsilvrboy (11501 posts) -
Yeah I would, but not because he's an athiest. I'd just vote for him/her like anyone else.
#256 Posted by Blazin_Ice (929 posts) -
Id find more trust in somebody that takes responbility on their own shoulders, rather than somebody that would say "Lets leave that to God".
#257 Posted by slinky6 (8521 posts) -
Of course I would. As long as their political views matched mine.
#258 Posted by Hewkii (26339 posts) -

Then you think God created the world by evolution.

battlefront23

the Earth isn't a living thing, so that is impossible.

#259 Posted by Foolio1 (7465 posts) -
If I believe this individual is most qualified for the position he/she is running for, then yes.
#260 Posted by slinky6 (8521 posts) -

Then you think God created the world by evolution.

battlefront23

The earth doesn't have genes, and doesn't have sex with other planets to make baby planets, that may have planetary mutations that are either beneficial, neutral, or detrimental based on environment, predators, etc.
#261 Posted by longhorn7 (4637 posts) -
[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Then you think God created the world by evolution.

slinky6

The earth doesn't have genes, and doesn't have sex with other planets to make baby planets, that may have planetary mutations that are either beneficial, neutral, or detrimental based on environment, predators, etc.

YES IT DOES :p
#262 Posted by NaiKoN9293 (4102 posts) -
I really don't know what to say. Half of the 'merican population wouldn't vote for someone because they're atheist? Maybe 'mericans really are d
#263 Posted by Bourbons3 (24248 posts) -
I meant having a firm belief in Christianity can be a major factor in good leadership, it's about how strongly you believe in Christianity, not how much God is talking to you or what He's saying. Leadership involves believing what's best for the followers or the country, so you would be concerned with guiding the country by its biblical roots as the founding fathers did. Protecting human rights, not tolerating communism or terrorism in other countries, upholding justice, etc.Solid_Snake325
...banning abortion, banning stem-cell research, banning same-sex unions/marriages, putting religion in schools, etc. :roll:
#264 Posted by freshgman (12241 posts) -
i wouldnt.
#265 Posted by four_of_clubs (4474 posts) -

We need a good seperation of church and state.

Or skate...

Well, not WE, seeing as how I live in Canada. Good old Canadian Government.

#266 Posted by Bourbons3 (24248 posts) -
i wouldnt. freshgman
Why not?
#267 Posted by import_fighter1 (1218 posts) -
[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.mig_killer2

can someone believe in evolution and be a christian according to you?

NO

well if that's the case then tough **** for christianity

Well then sorry for speaking the truth.

according to you, if evolution is true(which it absolutely is) then christianity collapses.

tough **** for your beliefs

All religions are going to collapse. Christianity, Islam, etc. I give it 25-30 years tops before the catholic church falls, when it falls, all of them will follow with it.

#268 Posted by giton (1745 posts) -

People shouldn't vote for rulers. It's an act of aggression toward humanity.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new
master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner

"We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two
bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between
Tweedledum and Tweedledee." - Helen Keller

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

#269 Posted by jointed (16719 posts) -

People shouldn't vote for rulers. It's an act of aggression toward humanity.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new
master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner

"We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two
bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between
Tweedledum and Tweedledee." - Helen Keller

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

giton

Than what do you suggest we do? Ahh, I know, let's go back to being a 100% monarchy...

#270 Posted by sonicare (53451 posts) -
If they were well qualified, then yes. I generally don't know the religious affiliations of most candidates anyway, unless they advertise it.
#271 Posted by Elraptor (30966 posts) -
It really depends on the alternatives.
#272 Posted by ArmoredAshes (4025 posts) -
as long as he respects others views sure. its just like with religions..i dont want you to force it on to me if i dont believe.
#273 Posted by sonicare (53451 posts) -

People shouldn't vote for rulers. It's an act of aggression toward humanity.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new
master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner

"We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two
bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between
Tweedledum and Tweedledee." - Helen Keller

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

giton

In a pure democracy, nothing could ever get done. You would need the approval of all 300 million people in the US to make any decision. Logisticaly impossible.

#274 Posted by Cook66 (5182 posts) -

Of course. God has no place in politics.

I should say: God should have no place in politics. Reality, unfortunately, follows different rules than ideal.

Jandurin

Agreed.

#275 Posted by Cook66 (5182 posts) -
[QUOTE="giton"]

People shouldn't vote for rulers. It's an act of aggression toward humanity.

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new
master once in a term of years." - Lysander Spooner

"We vote? What does that mean? It means that we choose between two
bodies of real, though not avowed, autocrats. We choose between
Tweedledum and Tweedledee." - Helen Keller

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

sonicare

In a pure democracy, nothing could ever get done. You would need the approval of all 300 million people in the US to make any decision. Logisticaly impossible.

Switserland (spelling? :o) actually has a system where every major and not so major issue gets voted on by everyone. Excellent system in theory, but too many just doesn't bother travling to a voting station once a week. Maybe if you coul vote from home over the internet or something people would be more interested though.

#276 Posted by zombiefruit (2491 posts) -
[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="redban2"]

People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.

redban2

bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|

What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of their religion.

Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.

Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.

Well what about all the people whoa re in gangs and wear crosses. They kill people which is not helping them be a good christian. And you say that people who have "deep" faith in a religion, you don't say that they have to follow every thing it says. I would have agreed with you in the 50's but definetly not now.

#278 Posted by Nifty_Shark (13137 posts) -
yes. I don't care what religion the person follows either as long as it has nothing to do with their decision making.
#279 Posted by DeSainte (3 posts) -

You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.battlefront23

But what kind of Christian? There are so many variants, aren't there?

#280 Posted by sSubZerOo (43098 posts) -
I like to think every president becomes a athiest for their terms of service to the United States.. In the sense that they dont allow religious dogma to sway their decision making, and make their decisions based on the constitution and for the good of the people.
#281 Posted by MFaraz_Hayat (1796 posts) -
Well, I think that a person's leadership qualities should be taken into account, rather than his beliefs. Further, his honesty etc. (in short, virtues) must be checked.
#282 Posted by MFaraz_Hayat (1796 posts) -
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.import_fighter1

can someone believe in evolution and be a christian according to you?

NO

well if that's the case then tough **** for christianity

Well then sorry for speaking the truth.

according to you, if evolution is true(which it absolutely is) then christianity collapses.

tough **** for your beliefs

All religions are going to collapse. Christianity, Islam, etc. I give it 25-30 years tops before the catholic church falls, when it falls, all of them will follow with it.

And how do you know this?:question:

#283 Posted by sSubZerOo (43098 posts) -
[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.MFaraz_Hayat

can someone believe in evolution and be a christian according to you?

NO

well if that's the case then tough **** for christianity

Well then sorry for speaking the truth.

according to you, if evolution is true(which it absolutely is) then christianity collapses.

tough **** for your beliefs

All religions are going to collapse. Christianity, Islam, etc. I give it 25-30 years tops before the catholic church falls, when it falls, all of them will follow with it.

And what gives you that impression?

Possibly if these fundamentalists grow in numbers.. For instance in the US christian fundamentalism is growing which is quite startling.

#284 Posted by chrisrooR (9026 posts) -
[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.import_fighter1

can someone believe in evolution and be a christian according to you?

NO

well if that's the case then tough **** for christianity

Well then sorry for speaking the truth.

according to you, if evolution is true(which it absolutely is) then christianity collapses.

tough **** for your beliefs

All religions are going to collapse. Christianity, Islam, etc. I give it 25-30 years tops before the catholic church falls, when it falls, all of them will follow with it.

as soon as ANY evidence of life is found on another planet, most religions will fall.

#285 Posted by MFaraz_Hayat (1796 posts) -
[QUOTE="import_fighter1"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]You're a Christian OR you're an atheist.chrisrooR

can someone believe in evolution and be a christian according to you?

NO

well if that's the case then tough **** for christianity

Well then sorry for speaking the truth.

according to you, if evolution is true(which it absolutely is) then christianity collapses.

tough **** for your beliefs

All religions are going to collapse. Christianity, Islam, etc. I give it 25-30 years tops before the catholic church falls, when it falls, all of them will follow with it.

as soon as ANY evidence of life is found on another planet, most religions will fall.

Why?

#286 Posted by trix5817 (12252 posts) -

I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.

Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.

People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.

Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.

redban2

Hahaha, that made me laugh. I guess you've never heard of the Crusades? What about extremeist terroist who will kill millions in the name of God? This is why religion has to be separate from state, and it's sad that the 52% of Americans believe the Founding Fathers advice to be wrong.

#287 Posted by trix5817 (12252 posts) -
[QUOTE="redban2"][QUOTE="JML897"]

So, those Catholic Priests that did stuff with little boys...they're great citizens?

JML897

If a priest molested a toddler, then do they do they really have deep faith in their religion? No, there're in disguise..just a masquerade . Those priests do not have true faith in their religion.

Alright, fair enough.

In the Bible, it says it's okay to kill a disobedient child. Also, it says it's okay to sell your daughter into slavery.

So, let's say some guy tries to prostitute his daughter. But, she refuses -- so, the father kills her. Would he be alright? I mean, nothing he did went against the Bible. In fact, the Bible supports him.

I guess so. The Bible also says that it's ok to summon bears that attack and kill 42 boys that yelled at you.......

#288 Posted by ElZilcho90 (6157 posts) -

If an individual had the political beliefs that I agreed with and, in my opinion, the capability to run the nation effectively, but was an athiest, then yes, yes I would vote for him.

I can't make voting decisions based upon religious affiliation. If I did, I'd have no-one to vote for, being Catholic.

If this guy is a great candidate and the only "negative" thing about him was that he did not believe in a higher power, of course I'd vote for him.

#289 Posted by Shiggums (21436 posts) -
I would.
#290 Posted by trix5817 (12252 posts) -
[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

But let me ask you this: do you think YOUR views are flawed?

battlefront23

Nobody's perfect. I'm sure some of my opinions can be disputed well.

But anyone who thinks the Bible isn't full of contradictions, is fooling themselves.

can you tell me these contradictions?

Are you serious? Why do you think the Christians wrote the New Testament? The original was not good enough for them. Do you actually believe everything that is written in the bible?

Yes, but some of it is meant symbolicly...

I'm so sick of that cop out. Anything that someone disagrees with in the Bible is supposed to be "symbolic" and not taken literally. But whose to say what's to be taken literally and what isn't? You can't pick and choose, because all of it is "The Word of God".

Tell me what the symbol was supposed to be when the Bible states that people who don't have genitals or their genitals have been cut off aren't allowed into heaven..........

Or when Elisha summoned 2 bears that malled 42 kids to death....just for calling him baldhead.....yeah, sounds really "moral" to me.

#291 Posted by mdk31 (2 posts) -
I'd vote for an atheist for sure. That would even be a plus for me. They wouldn't be deluded by some crazy 2000-year-old fairy tale that was invented by a bunch of dudes with political agendas.
#292 Posted by inyourface_12 (14757 posts) -
looks @ sig. no
#293 Posted by Funkyhamster (17366 posts) -
As long as he/she was a good candidate...
#294 Posted by Directions2 (52 posts) -

Naturally; I wouldn't vote for an atheist for pope, but outside of that, I can't see where it would be relevant.xaos

when would you even vote for a pope?

#295 Posted by cowboymonkey21 (5297 posts) -
There is alot of reasons to not vote for someone but not voting for them cuz there black or because theyr not religois is just dumb.
#296 Posted by inyourface_12 (14757 posts) -

[QUOTE="xaos"]Naturally; I wouldn't vote for an atheist for pope, but outside of that, I can't see where it would be relevant.Directions2

when would you even vote for a pope?

maybe he's a cardinal

#297 Posted by saintzombie (60 posts) -
the religion really doesnt matter...although most of the hardcore athiest i come in contact with are negative....yet all the christians i come in contact with are to right winged.and i wouldnt vote for a negative person or a right wing...
#299 Posted by btaylor2404 (11353 posts) -

If the US Presidential candidate for the party you would normally vote for were an atheist, would you still vote for them? I ask this because I recently found a report that found 52% of Americans wouldn't vote for a well-qualified atheist.Bourbons3

In a heartbeat. If I agreed with their policies I'd campagin and donate to them as well.

#300 Posted by foxhound_fox (87844 posts) -
I wouldn't let the candidates private beliefs effect how I voted. As long as I agree with their campaign "promises" then that is all that matters.