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Of course. God has no place in politics.
I should say: God should have no place in politics. Reality, unfortunately, follows different rules than ideal.
If he can get the NHS back in the black then of course. I don't really care what a politician's beliefs are as long as they don't feature too heavily in his policies.
EDIT: I didn't realise this was for US president but my original statement still stands. :)
For me, that would be a big plus for the candidate....Junior_AIN
HaHa!! Me too. I would not be surprised to find out that religion has cost more lives than any other single unnatural cause in history. We are on course to continue the crusades, and I would like to derail this train that we're on.
as i said in the other topic,no i wouldnt.in my encounters with athiest,most of them tend to be angry,negative,hopeless and waaaaaay to liberal.i know not all athiest are like that though.
I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.
Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
redban2
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
[QUOTE="redban2"]People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
guitboxdude25
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of their religion.
Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.
Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.
[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="redban2"]People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
redban2
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.
Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.
What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of his religion.
Actualy his cause can be jusified as he is fightng to spread his religion. In the Quarn (correct me if thats the wrong spelling) that's okay[QUOTE="Junior_AIN"]For me, that would be a big plus for the candidate....Engrish_Major
HaHa!! Me too. I would not be surprised to find out that religion has cost more lives than any other single unnatural cause in history. We are on course to continue the crusades, and I would like to derail this train that we're on.
Most Atheists are too liberal for me, but if i found a moderate Atheist, then i'd be all for voting for that person.I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.
Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.
redban2
Sorry us non-believers aren't exemplary citizens with out a stitch of moral intregrity in our bodies.
It's people like you, who act and believe such henous things that's keeping us back.
A person's religious beliefs shouldn't determine their ability to run and govern a nation. After all, it's our duty to legislate and protects rights, not one's petty view on morality.
[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="redban2"]People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
redban2
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of their religion.
Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.
Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.
If we had a president that did not believe in heaven, he would not be so quick to send all of our troops there.
[QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="redban2"]People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
redban2
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of their religion.
Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.
Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.
the thing is,theres allways some joker that takes there religion way to seriously and way out of context,extremist and bible beaters.
i understand what your saying tho.if a person has good morals and ethics(wether they are religious or not)they are a good canidate,its just that not everyone who follows there religion passionatley is a good person.i think you were trying to say something else though,it just sounded that way.
[QUOTE="redban2"]Do you really want religion politicised? Politics will change religion tooI'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
hair001
Not entirely. I'm not saying drastically incorparate relgion into politics. But at least show some acknowledgement to God in general in it (Notice I say God, not Jesus, Allah, or Shiva).
Because last I checked there were actually people uproaring about the US bill having the words "In God we trust", and the pledge saying "...Indivisible, UNDER GOD" . Why the uproar? Because they say religion should have zero part in politics. That, to me, is so stupid and annoying.
[QUOTE="redban2"]I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.
Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.
Donkey_Puncher
Sorry us non-believers aren't exemplary citizens with out a stitch of moral intregrity in our bodies.
It's people like you, who act and believe such henous things that's keeping us back.
A person's religious beliefs shouldn't determine their ability to run and govern a nation. After all, it's our duty to legislate and protects rights, not one's petty view on morality.
Yup exemplary citizens :lol: That's why Bush has no problem going to sleep at night knowing all the suffering and death he has caused for greed.[QUOTE="redban2"][QUOTE="guitboxdude25"][QUOTE="redban2"]People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated.
Engrish_Major
bin laden deeply believes in his religion....:|
What I meant by my comment is someone who follows the moral ethics of their religion.
Bin Laden doesn't "deeply" follow his religion.
Bin Laden is Muslim, is he not? do you know what the guidelines are for that religion? Well, nonviolence is one of them.
If we had a president that did not believe in heaven, he would not be so quick to send all of our troops there.
uhh that makes no sense.george bush isnt trying to send our troops the heaven,and nor is he doing a good job at it....hes just an idiot.
[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="redban2"]Do you really want religion politicised? Politics will change religion tooI'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
redban2
Not entirely. I'm not saying drastically incorparate relgion into politics. But at least show some acknowledgement to God in general in it (Notice I say God, not Jesus, Allah, or Shiva).
Because last I checked there were actually people uproaring about the US bill having the words "In God we trust", and the pledge saying "...Indivisible, UNDER GOD" . Why the uproar? Because they say religion should have zero part in politics. That, to me, is so stupid and annoying.
Why? Why can't we just preach to be a good person? Why does our leader have to believe that a 2000 year old book is fact?
Voting for a Atheist wont send you to hell. You are just picking a person that you think would lead your country the best, and if that person happens to not be a Christian, oh well. It is not like YOU are choosing to become an Atheist.I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.
Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.
redban2
I assume you would argue that folks like Seantor Larry Craig and preachers Ted Haggard and Jim Bakker do not have deep faith in their religion? If so, your argument is vacuous, since we can only determine the depth of their faith by observing their behavior. You are saying "People who are faithful are responsible/good citizens. People who claim faith but are not good/responsible citizens don't really have faith." But that means that an individual's faith as they report it has no bearing at all on their citizenship. I don't see the correlation between good citizenship and religious affiliation, personally.People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
redban2
[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="redban2"]I wouldn't even think about voting for an athiest.
Having no belief in God is a sign of deep confusion in my eyes. I'm not going to go into the reasoning for why that is, as that has to do with my personal beliefs.
People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
Another reason for not voting for an athiest is the the guilt feeling I'd get from doing so. I'd feel like I did the wrong thing in supporting someone like that.
X360PS3AMD05
Sorry us non-believers aren't exemplary citizens with out a stitch of moral intregrity in our bodies.
It's people like you, who act and believe such henous things that's keeping us back.
A person's religious beliefs shouldn't determine their ability to run and govern a nation. After all, it's our duty to legislate and protects rights, not one's petty view on morality.
Yup exemplary citizens :lol: That's why Bush has no problem going to sleep at night knowing all the suffering and death he has caused for greed.george bush = stupid ignorant hick
george bush =/= antichrist.
and petty morality?morality is what we need?morality has nothing to do with religion.
[QUOTE="hair001"][QUOTE="redban2"]Do you really want religion politicised? Politics will change religion tooI'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
redban2
Not entirely. I'm not saying drastically incorparate relgion into politics. But at least show some acknowledgement to God in general in it (Notice I say God, not Jesus, Allah, or Shiva).
Because last I checked there were actually people uproaring about the US bill having the words "In God we trust", and the pledge saying "...Indivisible, UNDER GOD" . Why the uproar? Because they say religion should have zero part in politics. That, to me, is so stupid and annoying.
Why is it stupid? Do you think that all non-thocratic goverments are stupid?People who have deep faith in religion have one thing in common. And that is they all are exemplary citizens. A person who believes in God would also seem to be more secure and morally-motivated. Religion does play a big part in a person's character. Which is why I'm not a believer in the "Religion should stay out of politics..." thing.
redban2
So, those Catholic Priests that did stuff with little boys...they're great citizens?
An Atheist running for President would make my view of him/her a little more favorable, but that's it. I wouldn't vote for them just because they're atheist -- but if they also have good ideas, I'd vote for 'em in a heartbeat. I don't even know exactly what religion the current candidates are -- I assume they're mostly Protestant, but I really don't know; and I don't care. It shouldn't be an issue.
So, those Catholic Priests that did stuff with little boys...they're great citizens?
JML897
If a priest molested a toddler, then do they do they really have deep faith in their religion? No, there're in disguise..just a masquerade . Those priests do not have true faith in their religion.
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