Would Bruce Lee be able to beat this man in his prime?

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

I don't know who that is.

Necrifer

Alistair Overeem.

[QUOTE="SuprmanLuvHandl"]

[QUOTE="Jfisch93"] So they DO have something on Lee. Lee is the 2nd most overrated fighter of all time, next to chuck norris.

BMD004

I don't think anybody saying Chuck Norris is the greatest fighter is being serious. Surely nobody believes Chuck Norris kicked a man so hard his foot broke the speed of light, went back in time and killed Amelia Earhart while she was flying over the Pacific Ocean:o

So you're saying that just because Lee didn't participate in any h@rdc0re tournaments, he isn't a legitimate martial artist? You're saying the only way to test a martial artist's skill is through organized tournaments? Fail

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="SuprmanLuvHandl"]

I don't think anybody saying Chuck Norris is the greatest fighter is being serious. Surely nobody believes Chuck Norris kicked a man so hard his foot broke the speed of light, went back in time and killed Amelia Earhart while she was flying over the Pacific Ocean:o

DRAGONPIECEZ

So you're saying that just because Lee didn't participate in any h@rdc0re tournaments, he isn't a legitimate martial artist? You're saying the only way to test a martial artist's skill is through organized tournaments? Fail

Bruce Lee was an actor. He became famous because what he brought to the big screen. Yes, their might be fighters that might be better than him but they will never leave a bigger landmark than Bruce left.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] Both even had "fights". Except Norris has actually competed in plenty of tournaments to test his skills. Guess how many Bruce has competed in? Maybe 1 or 2. And other than that, they are basically the same.lloveLamp

So you're saying that just because Lee didn't participate in any h@rdc0re tournaments, he isn't a legitimate martial artist? You're saying the only way to test a martial artist's skill is through organized tournaments? Fail

But him being an amazing martial artist translates into him being an amazing fighter, and BMD004 sounds like he's implying that the only way someone can be seen as a good fighter is if one participates in organized, public tournaments, which is 100% false. Did I mis-interpret?

I feel like Bruce was all about speed, and today's martial artists are all about power. Two different types of fighters in two different times. Although I respect Bruce a lot more than any UFC fighter.

I feel like Bruce was all about speed, and today's martial artists are all about power. Two different types of fighters in two different times. Although I respect Bruce a lot more than any UFC fighter.

Mousetaches

Bruce Lee is a legend and somewhat of a mythical figure, but Overeem would absolutely eat him alive.

No disrespect to Lee, as I'm definitely a Bruce Lee fan.

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"][QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

So you're saying that just because Lee didn't participate in any h@rdc0re tournaments, he isn't a legitimate martial artist? You're saying the only way to test a martial artist's skill is through organized tournaments? Fail

DRAGONPIECEZ

But him being an amazing martial artist translates into him being an amazing fighter, and BMD004 sounds like he's implying that the only way someone can be seen as a good fighter is if one participates in organized, public tournaments, which is 100% false. Did I mis-interpret?

Bruce Lee is a legend and somewhat of a mythical figure, but Overeem would absolutely eat him alive.

No disrespect to Lee, as I'm definitely a Bruce Lee fan.

TM_Darkside

Yes, Bruce Lee would KTFO the Demolition man.

No, Bruce Lee is overrated.

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

[QUOTE="lloveLamp"] yeah he was a martial artist. but not a figher. he didn't fight.BMD004

But him being an amazing martial artist translates into him being an amazing fighter, and BMD004 sounds like he's implying that the only way someone can be seen as a good fighter is if one participates in organized, public tournaments, which is 100% false. Did I mis-interpret?

Not true. One could gain as much experience sparring at their school than in an actual tournament. (In my dojo, we spar all out with no equipment. It's amazing experience.) One could also gain knowledge and experience if they tested their skills in the streets. So just because you pick the guy who you know has won all of those fancy-shmansy public tournaments, he won't necessarily defeat the person, that unbeknownst to many, has hands on experience from other resources. So there are many ways for people to have "real fighting experience", like you say, other than participating in tournaments. Just keep that in mind. ;)

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

But him being an amazing martial artist translates into him being an amazing fighter, and BMD004 sounds like he's implying that the only way someone can be seen as a good fighter is if one participates in organized, public tournaments, which is 100% false. Did I mis-interpret?

DRAGONPIECEZ

Not true. One could gain as much experience sparring at their school than in an actual tournament. (In my dojo, we spar all out with no equipment. It's amazing experience.) One could also gain knowledge and experience if they tested their skills in the streets. So just because you pick the guy who you know has won all of those fancy-shmansy public tournaments, he won't necessarily defeat the person, that unbeknownst to many, has hands on experience from other resources. So there are many ways for people to have "real fighting experience", like you say, other than participating in tournaments. Just keep that in mind. ;)

Bruce Lee is incredibly overrated. I find him to be a boring fighter who has rarely won. they just happened to be upsets, but then again every fight he won was an upset because of how bad he was.

If Alistair Overeem was 50, prime Bruce Lee still wouldn't have been able to beat him. Overeem pre-growth hormone would have walloped him too.

nvm

some of you guys need to read a book or two about Bruce Lee. He was one of the most dedicated and talented martial artists on the planet. He created his own martial art, Jeet Kun Do. Read up on some of his physical feats and accomplishments, and what he did every day to stay in shape. The fact that you actually think some big MMA fighter that can KO a bunch of nobodies could stand a chance against Lee is a joke. Frenzyd109

But here is the honest truth: physical feats and accomplishments are great, but they don't mean much when it's time to fight. Secondly, his feats and accomplishments have been pumped up to mythical proportions, as if that justifies him being a great fighter. And third, you say that the "big MMA fighter" can KO a bunch of nobodies......... What I say to this is who has Lee fought? Who has Lee knocked out to make him a great fighter? And that "big MMA fighter" didn't KO a bunch of nobodies. Are you serious? He's fought some of the best martial artists in the world, and best kickboxers in the world. To even think that a 140 pound JKD fighter from the 1960's who never even competed in any significant fights can beat a 255 pound kickboxing/submission grappling beast from 2010 is frankly the ignorance I was looking for when I made this thread.

It's like saying that Jerry West would destroy Chris Paul in basketball. Laughable. But even still, that is a bad analogy, because Jerry West actually played in the NBA. Bruce Lee never even had significant fights. A better analogy would be me saying "some point guard who never even played in college or the NBA from the 1960's could beat Chris Paul in basketball".

Yes, I find it funny when these MMA/UFC fans try to pit lee against these fighter, NONE of them have nothing on Lee

legend26

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Probably. I've never heard of him, plus he seems to be fighting against some chumps. He looks tough but anyone can go to the gym.BMD004

Is that Jean-claude van damme?!...:shock:

If you're going to ask about someone who we know nothing about, it would be nice for you to provide information.Lonelynight

Alistair Overeem - He's a Dutch fighter. If you know anything about the Netherlands, you know they are big on kickboxing. A lot of the world's best kickboxers come from there. These guys are AMAZING "strikers". If you think any kung fu or jkd fighter can stand up and fight with these guys, guess again. Not only that, but Alistair Overeem is 6 feet 5 inches tall, and 255 pounds. He has a reach of 81 inches.

To put his reach in perspective, a 5'7", 145 pound fighter has a reach of about 70 inches. Overeem has nearly a WHOLE FOOT of reach advantage. This is reason enough to conclude that he would destroy Bruce Lee... not to mention he is nearly a foot taller and 100 pounds heavier.

More notes: He is versed in Kickboxing, Muay Thai, and Submission Grappling. He is the current Strike Force Heavyweight Champion of the World. His kickboxing record is 7-4, with a win over Badr Hari. His MMA record is 33-11. But also keep in mind, he's recently hit his prime. Despite what his current record is, he looks UNSTOPPABLE right now.

This knee is ridiculous for a heavyweight:

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[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Probably. I've never heard of him, plus he seems to be fighting against some chumps. He looks tough but anyone can go to the gym.tocool340

Is that Jean-claude van damme?!...:shock:

i'm not going to come in here and say bruce lee like everyone else in here because i know nothing about the guy in question, but who knows, it would be interesting

i'm not going to come in here and say bruce lee like everyone else in here because i know nothing about the guy in question, but who knows, it would be interesting

Chris_Williams

What if this unknow man have been in the 60's in the same conditions that Bruce Lee? I bet Bruce Lee will pwn him, same deal, if Bruce Lee were in his prime in this age, with the proper training, he still pwn this unknow guy.

On a more serious note, El Santo would beat them both...at the same time :D

What if this unknow man have been in the 60's in the same conditions that Bruce Lee? I bet Bruce Lee will pwn him, same deal, if Bruce Lee were in his prime in this age, with the proper training, he still pwn this unknow guy.

On a more serious note, El Santo would beat them both...at the same time :D

madsnakehhh

According to the last thread we had, Bruce lee couldn't beat a paraplegic with the flu even on his best day.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What if this unknow man have been in the 60's in the same conditions that Bruce Lee? I bet Bruce Lee will pwn him, same deal, if Bruce Lee were in his prime in this age, with the proper training, he still pwn this unknow guy.

On a more serious note, El Santo would beat them both...at the same time :D

BMD004

Relax dude, as my Santo pic proves, i'm just messing with you, is just that you are taking this thread way, way, way to serious.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What if this unknow man have been in the 60's in the same conditions that Bruce Lee? I bet Bruce Lee will pwn him, same deal, if Bruce Lee were in his prime in this age, with the proper training, he still pwn this unknow guy.

On a more serious note, El Santo would beat them both...at the same time :D

BMD004

El santo and Bruce Lee are both a heck of alot more well known then this guy.

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

What if this unknow man have been in the 60's in the same conditions that Bruce Lee? I bet Bruce Lee will pwn him, same deal, if Bruce Lee were in his prime in this age, with the proper training, he still pwn this unknow guy.

On a more serious note, El Santo would beat them both...at the same time :D

Pixel-Pirate

El santo and Bruce Lee are both a heck of alot more well known then this guy.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] That makes no sense. And this guy is only unknown if you know nothing about martial arts. And you obviously don't know who this guy is, which leads me to conclude that you know nothing about martial arts. Which leads me to conclude that your opinion is invalid.

BMD004

El santo and Bruce Lee are both a heck of alot more well known then this guy.

And if you exist, you know El Santo and Bruce Lee.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

i'm not going to come in here and say bruce lee like everyone else in here because i know nothing about the guy in question, but who knows, it would be interesting

BMD004

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

El santo and Bruce Lee are both a heck of alot more well known then this guy.

Pixel-Pirate

And if you exist, you know El Santo and Bruce Lee.

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

i'm not going to come in here and say bruce lee like everyone else in here because i know nothing about the guy in question, but who knows, it would be interesting

Chris_Williams

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="BMD004"] Answer me this... have you ever seen Bruce Lee fight?BMD004

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

Again, you are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious, do you realice you are messing with a legend? do you realize you will never change people's opinions? i'll tell you what, what if i make a thread about how Usher is a better artist than Michael Jackson, let's see how well that turns.

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"][QUOTE="BMD004"] Answer me this... have you ever seen Bruce Lee fight?BMD004

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i love bruce lee, enter the dragon, fist of fury, the way of the dragon, but i never seen the mma dude fight so i can't guess who i would think would winmadsnakehhh

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

Again, you are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious, do you realice you are messing with a legend? do you realize you will never change people's opinions? i'll tell you what, what if i make a thread about how Usher is a better artist than Michael Jackson, let's see how well that turns.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="BMD004"] .................... those are movies! That isn't fighting. That is ACTING. Have you ever seen Bruce Lee fight for real?

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

BMD004

Again, you are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious, do you realice you are messing with a legend? do you realize you will never change people's opinions? i'll tell you what, what if i make a thread about how Usher is a better artist than Michael Jackson, let's see how well that turns.

So? Bruce Lee wasn't a martial artist? never trained? never work like crazy to have his condition? all was giving to him for free?

You talk like Bruce Lee didn't break his ass to be the legend we all know today.

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"] i love bruce lee, enter the dragon, fist of fury, the way of the dragon, but i never seen the mma dude fight so i can't guess who i would think would winChris_Williams

If that is what we are going by, then Matt Damon is one of the best martial artists in the world.. did you see what he did to people in the Bourne Identity, Supremacy, and Ultimatum???

[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Again, you are taking this waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to serious, do you realice you are messing with a legend? do you realize you will never change people's opinions? i'll tell you what, what if i make a thread about how Usher is a better artist than Michael Jackson, let's see how well that turns.

madsnakehhh

So? Bruce Lee wasn't a martial artist? never trained? never work like crazy to have his condition? all was giving to him for free?

You talk like Bruce Lee didn't break his ass to be the legend we all know today.

He isn't known for being a fighter.BMD004

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Bruce Lee beat the hell out of Chuck Norris. Winning in this match would be his only option.