Will the United States ever fall?

Who knows?

its possible.

The USA is certainly not going to be able to retain its hegemon status given that India and China exist. However, it's highly unlikely that it will fall below 3rd place for the forseeable future.

decline in power - yes, no empire whether literal or mataphorical has ever been able to withstand forever.

but i do believe it will remain a great power among many.

I have a hard time seeing the US becoming a third world type nation, or seeing the country be torn in two or more pieces.

idk about ever but def no time soon.

Eventually, but not anytime soon. Were no more corrupt or economically off-put than any other country.

Lol, I don't think the US has been number one for AWHILE. China is the new world power.Jonwh18

Yes. All civilizations rise and fall.

Wars today are not about nation versus nation anymore. I don't think any nation will fall in the future.

Will it always be NO.1?SonyNintendoFan

Wars today are not about nation versus nation anymore. I don't think any nation will fall in the future.

KungfuKitten

You can argue that the US isn't no 1 anymore in certain areas. Certainly we're down the list on education, health care, general civility.

I don't think the US will fail for some time, but every country will fall in time.

Isn't it already in decline? I mean, the US economy doesn't seem to be booming, their political system appears to be completely dysfunctional, and it doesn't look like China is about to slow down in its race to become the leading world superpower.Planeforger

It should be ok, so long as it keeps its shoe laces tied.

Every single nation, no exeptions will break apart or 'fall' in some form or another.

well it's a country so no it won't "fall" people fall, buildings fall, but countries are part of the land so no it won't fall.

Will it always be number 1 in GDP? No. Given China and India both have populations 3-4 times our own, if their income per capita reaches even miniscule levels (like $12k per year small), then their GDP will equal ours... And if it ever equalled ours, their economies would be worth 3-4 times our own...

So as they develop it is likely we will move to third, but not because we are declining, only because they are catching up to us and have billions of people...

Also, highly unlikely, but if the EU ever became autonomous with member nations becoming member states and having an over arching EU government... That too would be larger than the US... Highly unlikely though even in the distant future...

Also, the world is too globalized for the US to fall... If we fall at this point, the entire planet is coming with us as the US is the financial, social, and cultural center of the planet...

The US has only been a great power for 60 years give or take, and you're asking if it is ever going to fall ? :lol: There's no reason to think that the US is going to stay on top, especially not since China is right behind it's back. jointed

if the U.S. religions factions get their way and succeed in creationism getting thought in science class is would be the beginning of the end. They nearly managed with bush and intelligent design.

if the U.S. religions factions get their way

tenaka2

succeed in creationism getting thought in science class is would be the beginning of the end. They nearly managed with bush and intelligent design.

tenaka2

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if the U.S. religions factions get their way

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succeed in creationism getting thought in science class is would be the beginning of the end. They nearly managed with bush and intelligent design.

tenaka2

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8792302/ns/politics/t/bush-schools-should-teach-intelligent-design/

Bush: Schools should teach intelligent design

I think that part of education is to expose people to different schools of thought, Bush said. Youre asking me whether or not people ought to be exposed to different ideas, the answer is yes.

The theory of intelligent design says life on earth is too complex to have developed through evolution, implying that a higher power must have had a hand in creation.

Christian conservatives a substantial part of Bushs voting base have been pushing for the teaching of intelligent design in public schools. Scientists have rejected the theory as an attempt to force religion into science education.

Sure, mention all the downsides to the U.S. and then say that China is better? Is this a joke? How is getting cancer just for living in Shanghai or Beijing and walking outside a good living condition? The fact that it is ridiculously over populated? That female children are almost worthless and discarded? How about the whole communism deal, huh? China is inferior to the U.S. in almost every way. They have a much larger military, but the United States is superior in training, discipline and technology. The age of "empires" is over. But the U.S. will always be the force to be reckoned with, and the place where people want to live.

the USA will always be among the most powerful nations, probably among the top 2 for the forseeble future.

But I have an easier time to imagining US continue falling behind in development measures, and ending up more and more resembling a developing nation.

[QUOTE="jointed"]The US has only been a great power for 60 years give or take, and you're asking if it is ever going to fall ? :lol: There's no reason to think that the US is going to stay on top, especially not since China is right behind it's back. Jandurin

I doubt it will remain "No. 1" - whatever that means. But I also doubt the nation would ever fall. I dont see any of the major powers in the world ever being taken over by someone else.

It's been falling and it still is.

China has many, many problems, but they're creating actual wealth for their people. Rhazakna

And a well thought-out strategy when it comes to foreign affairs to secure that wealth; one that isn't based on carrying a "+3 against them evil commies" stick around and calling everyone a terrorist.

Maybe not in our lifetime......

I'm guessing no one has looked into China's economy? They are not fairing much better.shadowkiller11

Maybe, we hardly fund science and research whether it be NASA or medical but because of our military I doubt we'll ever fall. But we could easily become irrevelant seeing as a large portion of our scientist and engineers are foreign born. Once they decide that coming to the U.S isn't that big a deal anymore and stop coming we could fall behind.

I doubt it. I mean, the USA is not #1 in everything. It just is generally a good place to live among all the countries in the world. Poverty in America is super low in comparison to other places. America will remain a 1st world, modern nation, but other countries could surpass it, who knows.

[QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]I'm guessing no one has looked into China's economy? They are not fairing much better.Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="shadowkiller11"]I'm guessing no one has looked into China's economy? They are not fairing much better.Rhazakna

The world might not be able to support China adopting the mass consumerism found in the West. China raising more and more of it's population into the middle class could be catastrophic for the world and it's resources. I would be hypocritical to blame China, We are all to blame but either way, The world's population is far exceeding our capability to sustain, The effects are already evident, China and India rising out of poverty may be what breaks the camels back so to speak.