Why hasn't the U.S and our allies invaded N Korea yet?

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#1 LegitGamer3212
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I just saw a documentary from National Geographic's Inside N Korea. The living conditions there make me sad and pissed at the same time. Little children as young as 2 years old must live in filthy concentration camps because their mom or dad questioned the government. Guards are trained to not view prisoners as humans beings, but pests and insects. N Korea just tested another atomic bomb for the 3rd time and countless missiles against the U.N's agreement. We did it in Iraq, why can't the U.S over throw the N. Korean government and save all its innocent civilians?

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#2 LoG-Sacrament
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i hear the iraq thing didn't go over well with everybody.
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#3 wis3boi
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You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

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#4 Renevent42
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I wonder the same thing.
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#5 DaBrainz
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No oil?
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#6 JML897
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Because NK has hundreds (thousands?) of missiles pointed directly at one of the biggest cities in the world.
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No oil?DaBrainz
Yep, no oil
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#8 megagene
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No oil?DaBrainz
No oil.
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#9 shadowkiller11
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I think we need a more stable financial economy before anything else will happen. Also North Korea hasn't directly/literally attacked anyone significant enough to for us to care.
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#10 supa_badman
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What is there to benefit from invading N Korea?

 

And honestly the whole 'LET'S SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD' thing is not doing any favors with anyone.

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#11 _Colossus_
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Short answer: People's Republic of China & friends

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#12 LegitGamer3212
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You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

wis3boi

the U.S equipped Israel with a missile defence system known as the Iron Dome. If we wanted to....can't we do the same for South Korea

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#13 Rattlesnake_8
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Yes but that would probably be taken as a sign of agression and would escalate things.
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#14 LegitGamer3212
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What is there to benefit from invading N Korea?

 

And honestly the whole 'LET'S SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD' thing is not doing any favors with anyone.

supa_badman

well sometimes you don't need to benefit yourself. The benefit is human rights, and humanitarian purposes. What's so wrong about getting rid of a government that uses genocide as a way to rule?

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#15 Fightingfan
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You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

wis3boi
Lets just shoot an EMP at NK like in Call of Duty.
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#16 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

Fightingfan

Lets just shoot an EMP at NK like in Call of Duty.

Killstreak isnt high enough yet

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#17 Fightingfan
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Speaking of war I want America to colonize some more. I want Mexico and Canada NOW!! Maybe even cuba.
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#18 LJS9502_basic
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No oil?DaBrainz
Simplistic opinion....
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Because south korea and japan would be turn to ashes. 

the cooperate mastsers of the US government would not be happy to lose all that money that would take out like 5 trillion $ off the world economy.

 

 

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

What is there to benefit from invading N Korea?

 

And honestly the whole 'LET'S SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD' thing is not doing any favors with anyone.

LegitGamer3212

well sometimes you don't need to benefit yourself. The benefit is human rights, and humanitarian purposes. What's so wrong about getting rid of a government that uses genocide as a way to rule?

Nothing, but the U.S has been doing that for years and it does seem like they do it as a cover to get other things that they want. Many countries hate them for interfering with their state affairs and it really isn't their problem. They stick their nose in, wreck sh!t up, usually leave things in a worse condition all in the name of Democracy. Not to mention they don't need more money piling up on their debt
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#21 1PMrFister
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Invading North Korea would likely cause more problems than solve, not to mention that they're relatively harmless. The only people North Korea pose a danger to are themselves at the moment.
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#22 The_Gaming_Baby
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What could America gain from invading North Korea?

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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

What is there to benefit from invading N Korea?

 

And honestly the whole 'LET'S SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD' thing is not doing any favors with anyone.

LegitGamer3212

well sometimes you don't need to benefit yourself. The benefit is human rights, and humanitarian purposes. What's so wrong about getting rid of a government that uses genocide as a way to rule?

It's easy to say that in the comfort of our homes where everything's black and white.

Tell that to the millions of dead Iraqis and their relatives.

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Why does the U.S. have to do it?

 

Are we world problem solvers or something?

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#26 StaticOnTV
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North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

LegitGamer3212

the U.S equipped Israel with a missile defence system known as the Iron Dome. If we wanted to....can't we do the same for South Korea

Quick google search turned up this: http://blog.keia.org/2012/11/could-israels-iron-dome-protect-south-korea/

 

seems like two different situations, which Iron Dome is not made to handle.  It could be useful in blocking small artillary attacks, but not a full offensive or north korean missiles

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#28 TheHighWind
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What allies do we have these days?

 

Maybe Britian, but they're like: "Okay, we'll be your friend, just don't talk to us."

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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

You're ignoring the many thousands of rocket and artillery batteries pointed at Seoul ready to turn the city into a crater at the first sign of aggresion, putting 25milion people at risk.

LegitGamer3212

the U.S equipped Israel with a missile defence system known as the Iron Dome. If we wanted to....can't we do the same for South Korea

Yeah in Israel that blocks some small rocket attacks, not a continuous barrage from thousands of artillery pieces.
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#30 StaticOnTV
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What allies do we have these days?

 

Maybe Britian, but they're like: "Okay, we'll be your friend, just don't talk to us."

TheHighWind
We would have actually had N.Korea if Bush wasn't an idiot and helped oppress them further. As for your fitst comment the Queen of england came to visit not long ago and tried telling us how to run their government so they want the U.S. to talk to them.
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#31 LazySloth718
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Who made us the world police?

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#32 JML897
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Who made us the world police?

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Well...the US kinda did

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#33 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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They are a soverign nation and shouldn't be invaded if they haven't taken direction action against the US. No, I didn't agree with invading Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm iffy about Libya.

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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.

Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....
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[QUOTE="supa_badman"]

What is there to benefit from invading N Korea?

 

And honestly the whole 'LET'S SPREAD DEMOCRACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD' thing is not doing any favors with anyone.

LegitGamer3212

well sometimes you don't need to benefit yourself. The benefit is human rights, and humanitarian purposes. What's so wrong about getting rid of a government that uses genocide as a way to rule?

I take it you'll be the first person signing up to fight the good fight then?

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I would guess due to the millions of casualties that would result. Then we'd have to figure out what to do with an isolated, famine stricken, and brainwashed population. It would be a humanitarian nightmare.
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#37 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.

Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

They do actually have investigations to see whether the family is involved with whatever an individual did that was a bad deed. if not the family is spared. Not to mention there are 2 different sets (actually 3) of labor camps. Some for temporary rehabilitation which are not hard labor, and actual prisons. (also relocation camps, but those are only when something happens, they move the foreigners their for awhile just incase, if not they are let go, if so, foreigners that were involved will be put into a labor hard prison camp, and will contact if avaialble whatevee agency/country etc. they come from.) You are simplifying things and making it seem N.Korea is the centre of evil.
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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.Person0
Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

 

 

 

 

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[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.

Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

They do actually have investigations to see whether the family is involved with whatever an individual did that was a bad deed. if not the family is spared. Not to mention there are 2 different sets (actually 3) of labor camps. Some for temporary rehabilitation which are not hard labor, and actual prisons. (also relocation camps, but those are only when something happens, they move the foreigners their for awhile just incase, if not they are let go, if so, foreigners that were involved will be put into a labor hard prison camp, and will contact if avaialble whatevee agency/country etc. they come from.) You are simplifying things and making it seem N.Korea is the centre of evil.

I'm sure these "investigations" are completely fair and impartial. And you take their propaganda to make them seem better then they are.
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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.osirisx3

Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

 

So...North Korea is still a terrible place, regardless of the US

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"]North Korea is a peaceful properous nation that's why. North Korea, it is a very Pro-Communist state, and its law may seem unethical, but the fact that people have been there for years, and their system is able to be lived by to live without major issue if you follow by the system,, make it a legit state. North Korea has tons of areas, that are as peaceful as a quiet neighborhood down the street.osirisx3

Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

 

 

 

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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

 

[QUOTE="Person0"] Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....Person0

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

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[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="Person0"] Yep so peaceful, probably because "trouble makers" are rounded up and put into labor camps/ killed along with their families....

They do actually have investigations to see whether the family is involved with whatever an individual did that was a bad deed. if not the family is spared. Not to mention there are 2 different sets (actually 3) of labor camps. Some for temporary rehabilitation which are not hard labor, and actual prisons. (also relocation camps, but those are only when something happens, they move the foreigners their for awhile just incase, if not they are let go, if so, foreigners that were involved will be put into a labor hard prison camp, and will contact if avaialble whatevee agency/country etc. they come from.) You are simplifying things and making it seem N.Korea is the centre of evil.

I'm sure these "investigations" are completely fair and impartial. And you take their propaganda to make them seem better then they are.

Yes, they actually are, as long is there is not one "Direct evidence" pointed to a friend/family member/etc. they will be fine. If they are, you have to prove against it. The only actually Issue with it is that smaller crimes are amplified in punishment.
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

 

 

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

osirisx3

Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

Except south korea doesnt want to be reunited, under the North Korean Regime

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#45 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

 

[QUOTE="Person0"] Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

 

 

 

lostrib

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

Except south korea doesnt want to be reunited, under the North Korean Regime

South Korea has openly prevented agreeing with reuniting Korea and has openly stated the suffering people do not matter. They are both to blame for them still being split up.
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

 

 

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

at least they are not invading nations over and over and over like the US. I live when westerners act as if NK is the violent ones when the west never stops its wars.

 

osirisx3

Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

4th largest army in the world, using equipment from the 1940's - 60's (and malnourished.starving troops). If they went to war with South Korea they would lose horribly, but it would lead to millions of deaths. And the DPRK isnt really socialist it is a military dictatorship with a cult of personality for the leader.

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#47 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Person0"] Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

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 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

4th largest army in the world, using equipment from the 1940's - 60's (and malnourished.starving troops). If they went to war with South Korea they would lose horribly, but it would lead to millions of deaths. And the DPRK isnt really socialist it is a military dictatorship with a cult of personality for the leader.

Plus, 9 million sensationalist brainwahsed soldiers fighting in a region the size of michigan....talk about clusterfvck

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#48 StaticOnTV
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

 

[QUOTE="Person0"] Well NK does not have the ability so of course they are not going to be starting wars. They also like to murder South Koreans every once in a while.

 And they like to have their own people starve because they cut themselves off from the outside world, and spend what little money they have on the military.

 

Person0

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

4th largest army in the world, using equipment from the 1940's - 60's (and malnourished.starving troops). If they went to war with South Korea they would lose horribly, but it would lead to millions of deaths. And the DPRK isnt really socialist it is a military dictatorship with a cult of personality for the leader.

4000000000000 people with 60's weapons invading a country with 30000 people using 21st century technology and you think they would lose "Horribly?"
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#49 JamesElfman
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[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]No oil?megagene
No oil.

bombs are dropping on jerry curl factories as i type this.
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#50 deactivated-59f03d6ce656b
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[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

 

 

 DPRK is not imperialist so no they will not start wars. They just want to be left alone and reunite Korea. Sociallists have a storng stance againist wars. DPRK has the 4th largest army in the world they can invade many nations if they wanted.

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4th largest army in the world, using equipment from the 1940's - 60's (and malnourished.starving troops). If they went to war with South Korea they would lose horribly, but it would lead to millions of deaths. And the DPRK isnt really socialist it is a military dictatorship with a cult of personality for the leader.

4000000000000 people with 60's weapons invading a country with 30000 people using 21st century technology and you think they would lose "Horribly?"

Umm....South Korea has an armed force of over 3 million when reserves are activated. 3 million healthy troops with modern equipment > 9 million starving troops with equipment 50 years old. (not to mention the U.S getting involved.)